Anyone else feeling depressed about Covid?

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Cases, deaths and hospitalisations all rising.

Media drip feeding about pressure on the NHS and new variants.

Feel like it's Groundhog Day with this government. Surely they cannot lock us down completely again?

Air pollution kills thousands a year as well.

Probably considerably fewer during a lockdown...

I’m not bothered about it anymore, I honestly wish the media would stop going on about it. We don’t talk about how many are hospitalised with other illnesses every day such as heart disease, strokes, the flu even. Covid isn’t going anywhere, we just have to learn to live with it. It isn’t feasible to hide away every winter, the economy would be destroyed as would many people’s mental health.

I was suicidal during the lockdown this year, I honestly couldn’t cope with it and I think I would break entirely if we had another. We’re all vaccinated now, there’s nothing else we can do.

There is plenty we and the government can do without a lockdown.

64,000 premature deaths a year from air pollution.

ukparliament.shorthandstories.com/pandemic-air-quality-EFRA-report/index.html

Perhaps we should be locking down for climate change?

@ElftonWednesday

Air pollution kills thousands a year as well.

Probably considerably fewer during a lockdown...

Air pollution is terrible and needs to be reduced. We need to tackle various health issues.

@ElftonWednesday

64,000 premature deaths a year from air pollution.

ukparliament.shorthandstories.com/pandemic-air-quality-EFRA-report/index.html

Perhaps we should be locking down for climate change?

Spot on!

We should be doing far more to tackle climate change. its not a gotcha you know.

@julieca

We should be doing far more to tackle climate change. its not a gotcha you know.

Not sure if that's aimed at me, but I entirely agree!

@TheKeatingFive

You can’t give someone else heart disease by breathing on them against their will, can you?

No, but that doesn't mean society as a whole couldn't take significant measures to reduce it

But it’s not one or the other! Having a short-term strategy to reduce death and serious illness (including long term effects) from a highly contagious, novel respiratory virus doesn’t mean we don’t need and can’t have strategies to reduce other illnesses too.

doesn’t mean we don’t need and can’t have strategies to reduce other illnesses too.

Sure. The point is that 'we must do everything possible to eliminate deaths' seems only to apply to Covid.

@TheKeatingFive

doesn’t mean we don’t need and can’t have strategies to reduce other illnesses too.

Sure. The point is that 'we must do everything possible to eliminate deaths' seems only to apply to Covid.

Thankfully NOT by the people actually making the decisions!

Where were all these people in 2018 with their 'every life lost is a travesty' narrative?Where was the board for people concerned about people dying of poverty all around us each and every year - where's that hiding?

Great aunt Edna aged 93 dying of covid is not a travesty.

Would it have been a travesty if she’d died of Norovirus? A chest infection? All things that can be contracted from others

update 5pm today ...

Sure most people dont care if other people die. I didn't used to understand that. I do now. The pandemic has shown me that.

Sure most people dont care if other people die. I didn't used to understand that. I do now. The pandemic has shown me that

Bit of a strange comment this. As you say you are on the left i would have thought what happened with disability benefits would have taught you that. Or do you only mean you understand it because its something that affects you that you might catch.

I had already seen this to some extent with austerity and disabled people. I hadn't realised how widespread it is.
I used to do a lot for my community. They can get to fuck now.

It’s not that people don’t care

It’s just that most people have a lot going on in their lives
Children
Work
Maybe marriage problems
Maybe serious financial problems
Maybe issues with ill health / dementia and aging parents

I could go on.

We only have the time and energy for so much.
So issues that don’t impact the people I care for and about - I care about in an abstract way

If you did a lot for your community how were you only nominally aware as to the gross effect of poverty on morbidity and mortality?

@FourTeaFallOut

If you did a lot for your community how were you only nominally aware as to the gross effect of poverty on morbidity and mortality?

I was well aware. I was just naive and thought most people didn't really understand what was happening, rather than they didn't care.

Spoken like someone who has not watched a loved one die from this

I watched my mum die "from this" and 7 months later I watched my dad die of cancer. How dare you insinuate that that someone's death from covid is more painful to watch than someone dying of something else. There is no hierarchy to death. All deaths are equally painful to those of us left behind.

@trappedsincesundaymorn Im so sorry for your losses and the trauma you have been through.

@MercyBooth Thankyou.

I got a BSc in Biomedical Science, followed by a masters, followed by a PhD and a career in research, all from UK universities, where did you get yours?

So, not an epidemiologist then. And never actually done the job either.

Hope you never need open heart surgery zelda but if you do, please remember to instruct the surgical staff to remove their masks when they operate. You'll be at no risk of infection at all. They just put those unnecessary masks on to annoy you.

Why would I do that? I think masks are a good idea. It’s @MatildaIThink
who is incapable of following the actually science on it.

I got a BSc in Biomedical Science, followed by a masters, followed by a PhD and a career in research, all from UK universities, where did you get yours? Are UK universities somehow the only universities that can be trusted, in your opinion? What's wrong with universities from outside of the UK?