Woman driving at protesters

[ivykaty44]

The woman driving at protestors this week in the news, in a range rover that it turns out, isn’t taxed, hasn’t got a valid MOT & therefore insurance

Should have it impounded as she’s driving it illegally to take her son to school AIBU to think you can’t driving round illegally and then shout at protestors blocking the road - regardless of the rights or wrongs of the protestors or how annoying she may find them

@Aderyn21

I don't give a fuck if they get run over. They have no right to be disrupting other people's lives like this. Getting run over is a consequence of sitting in the road and drivers owe them only the same level of consideration that they are receiving - none. Of course this wouldn't be a problem if the police did the job they were paid for and hauled their arses out of the road.

And since when did drivers have the right to run over pedestrians in the road?

I agree with your sentence about the police.

Exactly my point, we are not all affected because we don't all drive cars. Cyclists can still go about their business for example

They are morons for not letting emergency vehicles through and that just reduces any sympathy people may have for them.

It made a lot more sense when they blocked access to Farnborough airport (all private flights). I didn't see a single tweet criticising them then!

But it doesn't mean stupid women in SUVs can run them over.

@Dojacatpaws

Exactly my point, we are not all affected because we don't all drive cars. Cyclists can still go about their business for example

I'm alright, Jack.

What an ableist attitude.

Given the shocking prevalence and increasing seriousness of road rage at the best of times, it's only a matter of time before someone does this in all earnestness. It's up to them, I guess, their choice, their consequences.

Belle, you mean the 'I'm alright jack' attitude of most car drivers? You mean the deeply caring and altruistic Range rover woman? Righto

@mbosnz

Given the shocking prevalence and increasing seriousness of road rage at the best of times, it's only a matter of time before someone does this in all earnestness. It's up to them, I guess, their choice, their consequences.

Nice bit of pre-emptive victim blaming there. Next thing you'll be saying she (the protestor) was asking for it

Drivers need to moderate their behaviour and not run people over. If they can't do that, they shouldn't have a licence.

Hopefully I've just attached 2020 statistics on the causes of delays to LFB attending the scene after a call out.

Traffic is the leading cause of delays. It's similar for ambulances. So for all the people saying the protestors should be vilified because "what if they held up an ambulance", does the same level of vitriol apply to anyone driving a non- essential journey, thereby causing traffic and congestion?

They delays caused by protestors are a tiny drop in the ocean compared to delays caused by general heavy traffic. We're just so conditioned to accept traffic we don't even really notice it or the damage it's doing any more.

So far drivers have moderated their behaviour. Even Range Rover woman didn't actually run them over! But these people aren't victims - they are causing other people to be victims though, with their irresponsible behaviour. Lockheart I hope you aren't trying to equate them with rape victims because that would be wholly inappropriate.

Traffic is a huge problem, not helped by the cutting of train and bus services and the extortionate cost of using them. Many parts of the country are impossible to live in without driving. Every driver on the road moves aside to let ambulances/fire brigade past and contributing to traffic while going about your lawful business is entirely different to causing traffic delays by deliberately blocking roads and emergency services!
Now if these people were campaigning for better and cheaper public transport, that would be a cause most of us would support.

@bestcattoyintheworld

They should squash her car and squash the protesters whilst they're on

Interesting advocating murder in response to people wishing to save the planet. Proportionate, maybe not.

Aderyn, really? You think that cause would make crazy range rover lady less angry?

@Aderyn21

So far drivers have moderated their behaviour. Even Range Rover woman didn't actually run them over! But these people aren't victims - they are causing other people to be victims though, with their irresponsible behaviour. Lockheart I hope you aren't trying to equate them with rape victims because that would be wholly inappropriate.

Deliberately driving into someone is not moderating your behaviour. On what planet is that acceptable?

Nice bit of pre-emptive victim blaming there. Next thing you'll be saying she (the protestor) was asking for it

Drivers need to moderate their behaviour and not run people over. If they can't do that, they shouldn't have a licence.

No, a simple observation. Road rage, and increasingly serious incidents of it, are increasingly on the up. You take your victim as you find them - that also means the victims of their obstruction of people going about their lawful business - as they exercise their right to peaceful demonstration.

I quite agree that drivers should moderate their behaviour, and if they can't, they shouldn't have a licence. The trouble is that too many people will not do so. I repeat - their actions - I'm assuming they accept that this is a possible consequence. (For which, any person that does run over a protester should be prosecuted in full accordance with criminal law).

[quote HoardingSamphireSaurus]Oops! I wrote a while response then realised I had the wrong end of the stuck.

I thought you meant this woman, there have been a few other similar stories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10094457/Insulate-Britain-protester-drove-4x4-81-000-mile-jaunt.html[/quote]
Re the protester who drove the 81k trip in a diesel car - typical middle class woman attitude of "do as I say not as I do"

I think range rover lady would be less angry if people didn't sit in the road a prevent her from taking her child to school and earning a living. The whole insulate thing is a cause which is beset with problems. Some have been mentioned on this thread re space and I think it can cause condensation? Very few people OTOH would argue that we don't need better public transport of you want to get traffic off the roads.
Now I don't think that running people over is acceptable as such but neither is sitting in the road and refusing to move, especially when you know you are causing very real suffering. So while I wouldn't advocate running them over, and wouldn't do it myself, I also wouldn't actually care that much if they did get run over.
My sympathy is with the people missing important health appointments etc.
I think it's a matter of time before a driver really does lose their shit and does more than give one of them a nudge and the police are sitting back and letting it all unfold instead of removing them.

Cars also cause very real suffering

@Aderyn21

Traffic is a huge problem, not helped by the cutting of train and bus services and the extortionate cost of using them. Many parts of the country are impossible to live in without driving. Every driver on the road moves aside to let ambulances/fire brigade past and contributing to traffic while going about your lawful business is entirely different to causing traffic delays by deliberately blocking roads and emergency services! Now if these people were campaigning for better and cheaper public transport, that would be a cause most of us would support.

Exactly.

There's nothing, I am alright Jack about it. As I explained before. I like many other people can't go without a car. A combination of mobility dependent, rural location and poor public transport links.
Why don't ib focus on public transport if they genuinely want to cut emissions.

They delays caused by protestors are a tiny drop in the ocean compared to delays caused by general heavy traffic. We're just so conditioned to accept traffic we don't even really notice it or the damage it's doing any more

40% of car journeys are under 3km, if you took those drivers off the roads, the rest of the 60% would travel far more freely and those in living rurally would benefit from free flowing traffic

Less non essential car journeys would free up the roads for people who really need their cars, especially the mobility dependent

As far as I can tell, we still have the right to determine for ourselves whether our travel is essential or non-essential? As in rent-a-mob-for-the-cause-du-jour is not actually empowered to exercise a power of veto over our travel? And apparently essential goods, emergency vehicles, and getting your kids to school, or yourself, does not qualify in their August opinion, so pray what the fuck does?

It's not as simple as

I support the right to protest.

I find in protesting that if I don't sit in the middle of the road with a smugly evangelical expression a banner and rucksack and stop decent folk going about their legitimate business getting to their jobs, appointments and delivering children to school, they in turn treat me in a moderated manner.

They might even give my cause actual consideration rather than dismiss it because I'm a bit of a cunt.

Not everyone delivers their children to school in cars

40% of car journeys are under 3km, if you took those drivers off the roads, the rest of the 60% would travel far more freely and those in living rurally would benefit from free flowing traffic

My journey to to work is 4 miles and takes me about 15 minutes in the car. Walking or cycling aren't an option, especially in the winter as I have 2 routes to choose from, one a lonely unlit towpath and the other one a busy, winding road that it also unlit. I'm not risking my safety so I don't have to drive.