To think that daughter wont be able to go clubbing due to tightening of age checks

[Carolinethe]

My DD is one of the youngest in her year -August baby- and so has only just turned 17.

She has several friends who are turning 18 shortly and one has already mentioned going to nightclubs etc. She gors to the pub with friends and I gather has been served alcohol before now but I dont like to probe too much.

My perception is that licensing requirements have been tightened up so its much harder to get in if you are under 18 these days. I dont want to tell her to try and blag it and have the embarassment of being turned away by a bouncer for not being old enough when all her friends will have got in. So realisticall is she fated to not going clubbing until until next year when probably the attraction will have worn off/ everyone will be going away?

In my day we were attending clubs from about 15 onwards and I had various forms of ID stating fale birthdates to make us 18+ for when we were asked. I believe now this has been clamped down on so that id is only available with proof of birthday etc so no chance of faking it.

what do others do? Or is it out of reach for her?

Goodness when i was young but over 18 police used to come in bars and check on people, i was very petite 4 11 still am and used to always worry id be challenged,no ids in those days .id always sit down so i didnt look so shortlol.But girls today at 17 seem to look much older and most are way taller than i so i guess they have to be careful.

There are 40-50 year old men prowling these clubs, do you really want your potentially drunk 16yo dealing with those kind of morons?

Middle-aged men did not get into ‘trendy’ (80s word) nightclubs in London unless they were famous, in which case they had an entourage and/or were in the VIP area. For entry - you had to be young, goodlooking, cool, well dressed blah blah.

There are pervy middle-aged men everywhere and you have to learn to deal with them. I got far more hassle on the street and in pubs than I ever did in clubs - where there are a lot of people around and there are bouncers.

I wouldn't worry about it OP. Trying to get in to clubs and being turned away is a right of passage 😂 always a bummer being young in your year but she'll save herself a few brain cells at least!

The days of going to nightclubs when you're underage are few and far between.

Most check id and have scanners to check it's genuine. So fake id is easily identified.

I swanned in and out of clubs when I was 15 and no id was ever required

My dc had to wait until they were 18 to go clubbing.

Sadly or maybe it’s a good thing what we got away with when we were teenagers is frowned on today. I recall after school play parties for cast and crew including teachers on the school premises aged 15 getting hammered, if that happened today teachers would be sacked!

I would be more worried about her trying to get in with fake ID being turned away whilst the rest of her friends get in and being left on her own late at night in town.

Let's turn the clock back. If there's less than one chance in a thousand of something going wrong, take the risk!

I’ve just remembered we went on a French trip aged 17 and the teachers were drunk pmsl forgot about that. The hotel we stayed in had a discotheque and there were some 30-something French blokes hanging out in there who we used to talk to (or try to) - at the time I fancied one of them something rotten and hoped to pull😂🙈. The teachers were too drunk to care.

My eldest (19) was born in Sept 02, his best friend (18) July 03, so my son knew he'd have to wait for clubbing and pubs until he was old enough, and he honestly didn't mind, so I'm sure her friends won't have stopped going once she's 18.
But although I haven't been clubbing in 20 years I know clubs and pubs were tightening up proof of age and security years ago, so it probably isn't worth the embarrassment of being turned away from a club. Maybe she could go to a pub with them instead? My DB who is 6'4", built like the proverbial, and looks older than his years (24) has said clubs scan literally everyone nowadays

Seems there's no consensus, then. Some people are saying it's impossible, and giving evidence to prove it. My own experience of a DD now aged 17 who's been clubbing since she was 15 (along with all her friends) is that they can get in anywhere they like with fake ID.

So the only real answer to the OP's question is for her DD to try it and see what happens (leaving aside all the issues of whether it's desirable or not), and to have a backup plan which will always mean she's safe if it doesn't work. And if she and her underage friends regularly fail to get in to clubs, the whole friendship group will probably switch to house parties or something instead, as it would be a bit boring for the older ones not to have all their friends there.

ID Checks are 100%. And it’s not just a case of looking at it, they are scanned into a machine for fire safety, security etc. You just can’t get into any big clubs without it, and even Wetherspoons won’t serve without ID for the full table

I’m in my early 20s and have been clubbing in Manchester since 16. Just borrowed someone in the year aboves ID.

@ElizabethBoland

ID Checks are 100%. And it’s not just a case of looking at it, they are scanned into a machine for fire safety, security etc. You just can’t get into any big clubs without it, and even Wetherspoons won’t serve without ID for the full table

My experience is precisely the reverse! My DD and her friends have all been served in Wetherspoons since they were 15, taking full advantage of the black market in provisional driving licences. It becomes even easier on the ID front once some of their slightly older friends turn 18 and actually get jobs in bloody Wetherspoons.

They have also long been able to get into clubs without a problem. They do all look older than they are, but apparently there's not much serious ID checking.

The only way for the OP's daughter to find out is to try.

It seems very area dependent!

A couple of years ago, when my DDs were 18, we went to a pub for a family meal and one DD forgot her ID. She was driving and obv wasn’t drinking, but they wouldn’t serve and of us alcohol. Me and DH were in our 50s!

My niece definitely gets into the clubs and she is only just 16! She has a fake ID she bought online. I would really discourage your DD from these clubs until she is old enough, not just because using a fake ID is illegal and you could be charged with fraud by deception (in extreme cases) but because of some of the men in their, they won't know she is underage and she puts both them and herself in a vulnerable position.

@hangrylady

I'm 42 and was asked to pull down my mask in Aldi when buying wine. The cashier took one look at my face and served me straight away. Gutted!

I don’t even get asked to pull my mask down anymore :(

However I did used to get ID’d well into my 30s so I’ll take it.