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Naked toddler in swimming pool showers

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Noodella18 · 08/10/2021 14:35

I take my 2 year old swimming on Fridays. After the session we take a shower in the communal showers, next to the lockers and by the entrance to the pool. I didn't think twice about stripping off her swimming costume to wash her but the lifeguard told me today that she wasn't allowed to be nude 'because it's a public area' and she had to keep it on. Am I being naive in thinking that a naked two year old is really no big deal?

Yanbu - no harm in a naked 2 year old
Yabu - keep the cossie on

OP posts:
Blossomtoes · 10/10/2021 18:48

You think that’s a defence of sharing child porn? Seriously?

Pythonista · 10/10/2021 18:48

It's being completely unbothered - same thing

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 18:49

Then:

Pythonista: So you don't care that naked photos of your child could end up on a paedo's website. How about your child? Do they get a say?

Blossomtoes:

Blossomtoes, are you really going to die on the hill of sex offences against children???

Saying something is unlikely to happen is light years away from saying it doesn't matter if it did!

If you don't think this is harmless and therefore OK, why not just say you realise that now and retract? What, you think people will think WORSE of you for that?

And you get angry when people suggest a married man is responsible for his marriage and an OW isn't?

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 18:53

Skyla2005: Blossomtoes thats is disgusting. So you would be ok with your child being used by paedophiles if you didn't know about it. Disgraceful

Blossomtoes: It wouldn’t be my child, would it? It would be a pretty rubbish image of them taken from far enough away not to be noticed. I can’t see what possible real impact it would have on you or your child.

(Emphasis mine.)

Blossomtoes · 10/10/2021 18:53

Saying something is unlikely to happen is light years away from saying it doesn't matter if it did!

Precisely.

And you get angry when people suggest a married man is responsible for his marriage and an OW isn't?

What has that issue got to do with this thread?

Pythonista · 10/10/2021 18:56

But you ARE saying it doesn't matter if it happens

That is the most fucked up thing I have ever seen on here

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 18:56

@Blossomtoes

You think that’s a defence of sharing child porn? Seriously?
Of course it bloody is! A picture of a naked child, taken secretly and without knowledge or consent and shared to paedophiles, is fine as long as they don't find out?

It doesn't need to be a picture of a child being forced into a sex act to be pornographic in its context and use.

You've said some blimming weird things before, but you're outdoing yourself this time.

Pythonista · 10/10/2021 18:57

And it could well be a pin-sharp photo including their face. But that's clearly acceptable is it?

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 18:59

@Blossomtoes

Saying something is unlikely to happen is light years away from saying it doesn't matter if it did!

Precisely.

And you get angry when people suggest a married man is responsible for his marriage and an OW isn't?

What has that issue got to do with this thread?

The fact that you could be enraged at the idea of OW not being equally blamed for an affair, but fine and dandy with naked pictures of children being distributed all over the internet!
Blossomtoes · 10/10/2021 19:03

@Pythonista

But you ARE saying it doesn't matter if it happens

That is the most fucked up thing I have ever seen on here

I’m not saying that at all. I’m stepping away from this. Twisting others’ words isn’t big or clever.
Pythonista · 10/10/2021 19:05

You literally said that. Just admit you are wrong

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 19:11

I’m not saying that at all. I’m stepping away from this. Twisting others’ words isn’t big or clever.

The only person trying to twist anything is you, with your "irrelevances" and "precisely" (do you understand the context of that exchange? The point was that you didn't just say it was too small a risk to worry about, you explicitly said, more than once, that it wouldn't matter if it did happen) and "quote it" followed by "I'm not saying that".

Do you hear yourself?

Feilin · 10/10/2021 19:16

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mathanxiety · 10/10/2021 19:33

@Idontlike, maybe someone who 'happens to be attracted to children' could avoid an ordeal for themselves by not using public facilities when there are likely to be children there?

The idea that parents of small children should consider the struggles of pedophiles is the most upside down and inside out way of looking at things I have ever seen here, and I believe I've been on MN since 2008 or 09.

Pythonista · 10/10/2021 19:37

[quote mathanxiety]@Idontlike, maybe someone who 'happens to be attracted to children' could avoid an ordeal for themselves by not using public facilities when there are likely to be children there?

The idea that parents of small children should consider the struggles of pedophiles is the most upside down and inside out way of looking at things I have ever seen here, and I believe I've been on MN since 2008 or 09.[/quote]
Perhaps the poster meant 'experience' rather than 'ordeal'

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 19:54

Perhaps the poster meant 'experience' rather than 'ordeal

From the context, I think they did.

SW1amp · 10/10/2021 20:31

@DrSbaitso

As an aside, I think it is pretty well established that the term ‘child porn’ is wrong, insulting to victims and shouldn’t be used.

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 20:40

[quote SW1amp]@DrSbaitso

As an aside, I think it is pretty well established that the term ‘child porn’ is wrong, insulting to victims and shouldn’t be used.[/quote]
I wasn't aware of that. My apologies, I will find another term to use.

user1471447863 · 10/10/2021 20:54

Don't forget though that plenty of the paedo's frequenting the leisure centre will be equally happy getting off to an image of a child in a swimsuit too.
The real issue is the paedo in the leisure centre & if they are such magnets for them then maybe they would be the ideal location to bust a few of them - some are none too discrete either by the sounds of it.

I know it's much easier said than done, but I'd have hoped if a guy was wanking in the showers watching children that someone would have alerted staff - just running out and shouting to the life guards HELP THERES A PERVERT WANKING IN HERE would have been a good thing and likely got one put away (or dragged out and drowned by a few parents we could but hope).

Skyla2005 · 10/10/2021 21:42

[quote SW1amp]@Skyla2005

But there is a world of difference between a video of a child being abused, whichever country it is made in, and a blurry picture of a child in a public place building a sandcastle with its mum with its bum visible
The latter is not a photo of child abuse, even if some absolute sicko wants to wank over it

But posters on here seem to think any photo of any child is tantamount to that child being abused
I’m failing to see that as the case, I’m afraid

(And if you read my post, I did say my son was in a rash suit throughout the holiday so this isn’t me trying to clear my conscience. I just genuinely don’t understand how only British toddlers are at this terrible risk when the rest of Europe seems to be happy to let kids place naked in pools)[/quote]
And the rest of the world should not be letting their kids go naked in public. It's absolute ignorance and like I said before if you worked I child protection you would understand where I am coming from. Protect your children. Do not ever take chances

Skyla2005 · 10/10/2021 21:44

[quote SW1amp]@DrSbaitso

As an aside, I think it is pretty well established that the term ‘child porn’ is wrong, insulting to victims and shouldn’t be used.[/quote]
It's not child porn it's child abuse

DrSbaitso · 10/10/2021 21:50

Yes, I read the Interpol information on the term and realise now why it's inappropriate. Thank you for letting me know. I'll use more suitable terms in future, when I have to mention it. I am sorry for any offence I may have caused.

Pythonista · 10/10/2021 22:20

@DrSbaitso

Yes, I read the Interpol information on the term and realise now why it's inappropriate. Thank you for letting me know. I'll use more suitable terms in future, when I have to mention it. I am sorry for any offence I may have caused.
Good on you! If only other people could admit to being wrong Grin
Dojacatpaws · 10/10/2021 22:43

Pythonista and drstbaitso, you both are kinda ganging up up on people who don't agree with you, you need to let people have other points of view

Pythonista · 10/10/2021 22:47

No we are shocked that someone doesn't care if their kid ends up with their picture on a website for paedos. Surely that isn't just an alternative point of view?