What things do you think will cease existing in your lifetime?

[drumandhake]

Not a wish list btw.
I'm mid thirties and I think I will see the end of:
Petrol and diesel cars
Cows milk (majority drinking soy/oat)
Pork being eaten by most
Smoking (that's hopeful)
People casually throwing around comments about people's weight
Royal family
Legacy benefits :(
Landline telephones
Desktop computers
A lot of pubs :( :(

PattiPritell
The south of Scotland high ground is being swathed in conifer plantations with the highest ground for wind farms. Be careful what you wish for - take away the sheep and cattle , how do you make a profit? Conifers. Landowners want to make money from the land if you don't want farms or pheasant shoots this is what you'll get, images of bluebells and ancient woods are not the way it will go.

Yes, this. Forget your woodland glade idyll with shards of sunshine poking through, bluebells, bunnies hopping around. Think more along the lines of thickly planted, dark pine forests with no light getting through so no undergrowth. Useless for wildlife. Plant 'em thick together and the cash piles high.

Face to face consultation with GP ,
Landline phones
Cash

@Joystir59 I really don't think patriarchy etc will go for several hundred years yet sadly it's been around so long and is so entrenched in our societies

I agree the environmental efforts by individuals makes very little difference and in fact even our efforts as a country do! While the likes of the USA, China and Russia are still making sod all effort on this score we're basically screwed!

@CaptSkippy I was thinking the same re cars but then I have ocd and don't have a car at the moment. But I also think the psychological stuff around ownership will come into play. There may be driverless taxis but I think car owners will still stick to having their own car and not have others using it.

more people will do their food shop online (already happening).

As I do which requires at least a picker to pick pack and checkout items many supermarkets still use both pickers and a checkout staff member to process online orders plus the driver of course. I do think in-store cashiers will go sadly.

As a veggie of over 30 years I don't think meat use will go completely lots of people still eat meat and eat more per person than our ancestors which unfortunately goes some way to cancelling out the efforts of veggies and vegans. I also don't think the current trend for veganism will last long term. A lot of those I know doing it I can't see them keeping it up. Some will of course, but not all of them. It depends of course on WHY they are doing it. Those doing it for animal welfare may stick to it closely followed by those doing for environmental reasons. But the ones doing it for weight loss/weight control won't and the ones doing it as they've just jumped on the bandwagon won't either.

I'm hoping they won't go completely back to meat consumption but will perhaps go veggie as a middle ground.

@Warhertisuff the nhs has never been under a sustained programme of undermining and underfunding as it is now though

I've seen a few posters suggest this [car ownership] you clearly don't live in very rural areas

I agree, lots of the Uk is very rural/spread out and that has an impact on a lot of the suggestions here actually. On this issue people won't want to wait up to an hour for a car to get to them especially for urgent/emergent matters. In rural areas people need their cars in case of emergencies

@drumandhake wow! That's terrifying on the mh side of things! It's already woefully underfunded and understaffed. I'm quite seriously mentally ill and had zero support for just over 2 years at one point I was basically abandoned. I'm now lucky to have a good therapist but can only manage to get an appointment with her every 3-4 weeks and have precious little other support. But I'd be totally screwed with no free access to healthcare!

This is why what's happening to the nhs worries me so much.

@CandidaAlbicans2 we can only hope! Many of us have been campaigning for this change for years such a cruel way of breeding

There always needs to be a Plan B.

I agree but those of us saying we think cash will go aren't necessarily saying we WANT it to! Just that seems to be the way things are headed. I have 2 bank accounts and also a credit card with a different provider precisely in case of issues with my bank occurring so I know I have a back up (in recent years iirc 2 major Uk banks have been hacked and their atms and customers ability to pay by card were affected for at least a day) and i always have £20-50 cash stashed too. I also prep to a degree with grocery items (something I was very glad I'd done when lockdown hit and deliveries went to pot last year and then just recently when I got COVID and couldn't even cope with dealing with deliveries!)

@ShowMeHow I agree I think TVs and to a degree laptops/desktops will go fairly voice activated quite soon. I don't even have a tv at the moment (it bust ages ago and I couldn't afford to replace at that time, now I'm just used to how I'm doing things and don't miss it) I watch on my tablet or laptop. Mostly streamed content, sometimes catch-up VERY rarely watch live scheduled tv now, very very rarely, but tbh I mostly listen to music

@Silverswirl the facial recognition thing worries me as it seems to struggle to differentiate between people who look very alike. My sister (with whom I am nc and is imo very untrustworthy with financial things) and I look VERY alike facially, I'm constantly being mistaken for her if I go out and about locally. I was showing Dd my "new" laptop when she was up recently and it unlocks on facial recognition and as I opened it and turned it on to show her it thought she was me - we have same features but she is much slimmer and different colouring

So I think it needs to be made MUCH more secure first - and how would it work with identical twins?

Polio (almost gone). After todays news let hope that Malaria will also be on the way out.

@elbea

Almond milk production is an unmitigated ecological disaster, but at least carbon emissions are less than cows right.

An unmitigated disaster maybe and yet dairy milk is still worse (see attached).

On the other hand without livestock farming there will be no suitable land left in Britain to farm in 30 years for arable and fresh produce.

And interesting statement, what are you basing this on? Im assuming you're referring to the nutrient cycling that livestock can provide but, there's plenty of examples of farms that raise crops without a livestock presence and have done successfully for decades.

Copy and pasting random news articles from the internet isn’t showing you the full picture. Ironically there will probably be no almond milk in our lifetime due to the desertification of the farming land in California. There will be cows milk though.

That may well be but it doesn't mean cows milk is good for the environment in anyway.
The big picture appears to be that anything milk is terrible.

U.K. in its current form.

While the likes of the USA, China and Russia are still making sod all effort on this score we're basically screwed!

Sorry but this is a stupid argument. China's emissions are super high compared to ours because we've essentially outsourced all our manufacturing to them. Try buying anything not made in China - you can't. I was talking to some awful woman at work about something I bought from AliExpress, she was like "don't buy from China! I don't buy anything from China!"......not realising that her phone, clothes and all household goods were made there. If you want everything manufactured in the UK, enjoy paying 5x more for everything.

@Bucanarab plenty of farms have done this for decades, which is why British farming is facing disaster if they carry on as they are. I don’t know if you regularly look at arable land but it isn’t in great condition. I very often do as I work in agriculture.

Nurture cycling is important but it’s not the only benefit, if you look at farms that have successfully used livestock in a crop rotation during a fallow year - yields increase, pesticide and herbicide inputs decrease, biodiversity increases, soil health increases, soil structure improves. Using this method of planting forage crops reduces the need for feed over winter. You often hear of farms that have successfully ‘rewilded’ - they all have livestock, it’s completely crucial to supporting a wider ecosystem.

The water use and land use calculations you’ve given are out of context, especially in Britain. A lot of the water will be rainwater or water from streams. The land is more often than not unproductive, low grade grassland.

If cash goes would illicit transactions like drugs, stolen goods, prostitution go also?

All of those crimes already operate using cards or bank transfers. My brothers a cop and he's often like "criminals are so stupid" because of course this makes it very easy to trace/prove criminal activity but criminals aren't usually very bright!

The more savvy criminals will take advantage by using the cards/accounts of less bright criminals or of course use innocent people's accounts without their knowledge or bartering

@Joystir59 what makes you think the housing crisis will be resolved? It's worsening at the moment!

@vickyp0llard the amount they manufacture for us will be infinitesimal in comparison to what they manufacture for themselves and other much larger countries we are tiny

Handshaking

Migrating ruminants stop desertification and reduce carbon due to grass sequestering carbon in its roots for food. More cows and more milk please!

Women/females as a specific sex class.

Cash- I do not like the idea. First that came to my mi d a few days ago with the Facebook, etc… out for. 7 hrs

@lonelyapple why would pets not be the norm. I actually expect pet ownership to increase as pets increasingly replace human children. I live in a flat in London and almost all my neighbours have dogs (or cats).

It would be default for dogs to be allowed in restaurants and bars and shops. I am not super happy about it but it will happen.

Hopefully, phrases like ‘bandwidth’.

• Maybe it's where I live but I don't bring pork products to eat for social occasions now. People either don't eat it for religious reasons or don't eat meat at all. A friend did a birthday party the other day with sausage rolls and ham sandwiches and no one ate them. It's just not a thing you see around here. Lots of pork free nurseries and veggie schools too, I would never send my child into school with meat products, it just doesn't feel right.

Yes, I think is where you live.

I'm 55, so guessing I live another 30 years

Fossil fuel cars except as curiosities
Gas boilers
landline phones
The United Kingdom as its currently constituted
Facebook
Print newspapers
On-premise servers

@Cosmos123

In person Interactions Commute to work

God, I hope in person interactions don't disappear! Might as well give up living!

[quote Bucanarab]@elbea

Almond milk production is an unmitigated ecological disaster, but at least carbon emissions are less than cows right.

An unmitigated disaster maybe and yet dairy milk is still worse (see attached).

On the other hand without livestock farming there will be no suitable land left in Britain to farm in 30 years for arable and fresh produce.

And interesting statement, what are you basing this on? Im assuming you're referring to the nutrient cycling that livestock can provide but, there's plenty of examples of farms that raise crops without a livestock presence and have done successfully for decades.

Copy and pasting random news articles from the internet isn’t showing you the full picture. Ironically there will probably be no almond milk in our lifetime due to the desertification of the farming land in California. There will be cows milk though.

That may well be but it doesn't mean cows milk is good for the environment in anyway.
The big picture appears to be that anything milk is terrible.[/quote]
Plenty of grass and water here in the west of Scotland

Free speech
State pension
Retirement-unless too ill to work
NHS
Cash and ATM machines
Covid tests
In work state benefits

tldr, so might have been mentioned

common sense
ability to think for oneself
critical thinking (not that there is much to start with)

The high street.
Cash
Hopefully the royal family.

@drumandhake

Not a wish list btw. I'm mid thirties and I think I will see the end of: Petrol and diesel cars Cows milk (majority drinking soy/oat) Pork being eaten by most Smoking (that's hopeful) People casually throwing around comments about people's weight Royal family Legacy benefits :( Landline telephones Desktop computers A lot of pubs :( :(

I’m 57, I doubt many of these will be gone.

The NHS and the BBC (as we know it)

I wonder if the people hoping for a return to a ‘simpler life’ with less reliance on technology are the same ones who use their phones to post memes on Facebook about how the world was much better when we weren’t all addicted to our phones and Facebook…

I can assure you that I don't use my phone to post anything. Some of us still try to live as simple a life as is possible!