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DC can't go to their dad's because ONE of them is ill...

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Zoflorananana · 06/10/2021 16:44

3 DC with ex who has gone on to have a second family. His partner is in her ninth month of pregnancy with their 2nd and due to have a cesarian but, in my opinion, being bloody ridiculous.

DC were due to go round for their dinner today. I let ex know when he was on his way to collect them that one wouldn't be coming as he's ill with a sick virus but the other two are fine.

He picks up the two who are fine and off they go with no problems. 15 minutes later I get a phone call from him saying there's been a change of plan, he's going to take them to play football in the park instead as with DC3 being ill he doesn't want to risk household to household transmission and DC1 and DC2 could be asymptomatic with what DC3 has or just not showing symptoms yet and his DP is due to have a cesarian.

They are absolutely fine and have been to school, no problems.

I know his DP is behind the change of plan because this isn't something he would ever care about and I have told him as much. Kids get ill it's a fact of life and you can't wrap somebody in cotton wool or ban them all from their supposed second home just because ONE isn't well.

AIBU to be royally pissed off?

OP posts:
anon12345678901 · 07/10/2021 05:09

YABU completely. It's not about opting out of parenting so don't pull that card, it's about limiting exposure to a virus he could pass on to his heavily pregnant partner. If my son is ever ill and due to go to his dads, I let him know before and he can decide if he wants him, he's his father but if he chose not to risk getting sick it wouldn't bother me.
Also to answer the question, yes if they have another similar bug when the baby is 2-3 months old, I would expect him to do the same And not have them in his house. You are being ridiculous if you think them being isolated in a house whilst ill would be fun or keep the illness away from others.
Stop projecting your issues and feelings of hate towards her onto the situation.

BoredatHome321 · 07/10/2021 05:12

Did the children actually mind going to the park instead?

Charleymouse · 07/10/2021 05:16

YANBU

He is the DC parent and should parent.

You can't choose which days you have parental responsibility.

You can't choose which of your DC you will parent.

You were sensible in keeping your poorly DC at home. He should have taken the others and fed them as planned. Where he took them is not really your concern. Not feeding them when he was supposed to is your concern and he should have provided a meal for them as he was supposed to.

Think you have been given a rough time n here. You absolutely have the right to be annoyed with him, and her if she was the OW, you don't have to like the situation they have put you in.

Hope DC is feeling better soon.

AnyOldPrion · 07/10/2021 05:45

It sounds to me as if it’s not really this event which is the problem. For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t have wanted potentially infected with a vomiting virus children visiting my house if I had children there, and especially not if I was about to go into hospital. The possibility of spreading norovirus into a hospital would be something I’d consider seriously. I am not of the same opinion as you regarding vomiting viruses. I feel like colds are completely unavoidable as they are so common and so easily spread. Vomiting viruses are marginally less easily spread, rather less common and way more revolting, so more precautions makes more sense in my head.

That said, if you were in an equal child-sharing situation with your ex, the situation would be completely different. If you had them 50:50 you could agree to rules round sickness that would work both ways. You might agree that in the event of certain sicknesses, the children would remain where they were until it was past and it would even out over the years as it would happen both ways.

It also sounds like your ex and you share the same attitude to sickness, but his new partner either doesn’t, or doesn’t want your children there and is using any excuse. If it’s the former, it doesn’t seem unreasonable, if it’s the latter, it obviously is. It’s very difficult to tell what’s in someone else’s head and unfortunately, you’re in a situation where there’s a lot of ill-feeling, so it’s even harder to judge.

What I would say is that you are understandably protective of your children and unhappy that they are being let down, and from that point of view, I think perhaps you need to protect their feelings by telling your partner things well in advance. Maybe I have misunderstood, but the impression I have is that you hadn’t told your ex about the vomiting bug until he arrived to take the remaining children. If you did and he still didn’t talk to his partner until he was on the way home, then the change of plan is entirely on him. But if he didn’t know you had sickness in the house before he arrived, then he didn’t have the chance to let you know that would change his plans for them. If he had known, and had discussed it with his partner in advance, then you could have managed their expectations and perhaps he could have bought a picnic before coming, so he could have taken them to the park and fed them there. I wouldn’t take any potentially infected children out to a fast food place either as unfortunately vomiting viruses can come on suddenly and there are few things more grim than being out for a meal when someone else’s child vomits. I understand it happens and can’t always be predicted, but if you know there’s a high risk, it’s fairer to everyone else to minimize it. I know they go to school, but missing out on burgers is not the same as missing a couple of days of school.

So I clicked on YABU, but I think it only applies because it’s a vomiting virus and we obviously have different opinions on how those should be handled. But in a wider sense, you absolutely are not being unreasonable about how your ex is treating his children. He’s an asshole of the highest order and should be treating his own children much better.

kateg27 · 07/10/2021 05:54

I'm going against the grain. He's being selfish and she's being silly. They ate his kids, she couldn't avoid it if they lived there. Is the OP was 9 months pregnant, how would she avoid it? Do you all send your kids elsewhere when they are ill? She knew he had children when they got together, things should carry on as normal.

Angelina1972 · 07/10/2021 06:02

I’m sure the advice is to isolate for a period before being admitted to hospital so as not to compromise anyone who is in hospital. So they are being sensible.

anon12345678901 · 07/10/2021 06:03

@kateg27

I'm going against the grain. He's being selfish and she's being silly. They ate his kids, she couldn't avoid it if they lived there. Is the OP was 9 months pregnant, how would she avoid it? Do you all send your kids elsewhere when they are ill? She knew he had children when they got together, things should carry on as normal.
Why do people keep saying if they lived there, the point is they don't. So yes they absolutely can avoid illnesses that could cause problems in the 9th month of pregnancy. If my son is sick with D&V I wouldn't send him to his dads to get them all ill. Why would I? What would be the point?
kateg27 · 07/10/2021 06:08

@anon12345678901 my children are lucky in the fact they have a very good dad and decent step mum. He would never not see them if they weren't well. He's more likely to see them extra to help care for them when they're unwell. And their step mum treats them the same as her own kids.

anon12345678901 · 07/10/2021 06:10

[quote kateg27]@anon12345678901 my children are lucky in the fact they have a very good dad and decent step mum. He would never not see them if they weren't well. He's more likely to see them extra to help care for them when they're unwell. And their step mum treats them the same as her own kids.[/quote]
So if they had Covid you'd still send them? I don't see it as being a bad parent to avoid illness if you can when someone is due in hospital soon. I really can't see how someone can see that's bad when hospitals advise you to isolate prior.

Staryflight445 · 07/10/2021 06:18

I don’t think he’s being selfish. Just because they’re fine it doesn’t mean they can’t pass it on, I caught a sickness bug from a colleague once who didn’t even have it, his mum did. He never became unwell with it either. I was knocked off my feet for about a week.

Vomiting bugs can kickstart labour too can’t they? So not wise to risk at all if she needs a c section.

Your kids are not missing out, they still saw their dad. Children need to grow up understanding they can’t just carry on seeing people and spreading their illnesses everywhere, it’s not as simple as that and even whole families who have these issues take precautions.

Don’t be offended by it, it’s just one of those things.

newnameday · 07/10/2021 06:41

@MitheringMytryl

Bit cheeky of him not to feed them. Surely he could have sorted something? I would be pissed off about that. But everything else is fine.
I'm not sure why the dad should have to arrange for two meals for his children (presumably he had one dinner prepared at home for them, then would have to buy another one out) because the OP neglected to tell him in time of the DC's illness.

How is it fair he should have wasted time/money on food at home and then have to buy a takeaway as the plans had to be adjusted very, very last minute due to lack of information.

Lostmyway86 · 07/10/2021 06:47

You are being VERY unreasonable. I've been the new partner, 9 months pregnant due to have a c section in a pandemic with baby no.2 and two SDs. I would have done exactly as your ex's partner has done. It's common sense. Your children got to spend time with their father and I really don't think having to make dinner for the children is as big an issue as ensuring a heavily pregnant lady doesn't get sick before surgery. All your talk of a 'gone on to have a second family' is quite telling tbh. It's just his family now which include your children. Clearly it's working if they were excited about seeing their half sibling.

Lostmyway86 · 07/10/2021 06:50

Also 'I let him know on the way to collecting them that one had a virus'. This is totally unreasonable behaviour on your part, you should have given much more notice for plans to be adjusted.

HoppingPavlova · 07/10/2021 06:51

Why can’t he get them a takeaway and eat in the park?

newnameday · 07/10/2021 06:52

@Zoflorananana

Just to add, I would be totally understanding if they decided to isolate the children at their house. My issue is the prohibiting them from being there completely.
But isolating them after they've been exposed to the illness for days, by your own admission, is not helping your DC and is just increasing the risk to the pregnant partner tenfold. That's a worse idea.

And yes, if your DC are sick with something infectious, I would totally expect you to give them warning so they can choose to isolate the two families. I would not want a baby to pick up a bug that they don't need when their immune system is so fragile. It's just heartless.

It's not like we've just been through this for the last year and a half.

As much as you hate the OW, I can't stress enough how unfair you're potentially being on a little baby who could be in so much pain and sickness if you continue to be happy to send infectious/possibly infectious DC to their house.

If I was the OW and you started to push, I would push right back and expect my husband to, as well. So maybe you need to find a way to work together with ExH for the sake and health of all the kids? Otherwise this could go the other way for you.

MRex · 07/10/2021 06:56

9 months pregnant with a caesarean due in days is different than someone just living their normal life, it's really strange despite all these posts that you can't accept that OP.

newnameday · 07/10/2021 06:59

Also, if you're that bothered about them seeing their half-sibling, it's another reason you should have told them earlier. So your ex could have brought his other child, too,

itsgettingwierd · 07/10/2021 07:04

She's about to have a c section.

Of course it's sensible to avoid contact and transmission possible.

I'd be avoiding it if I lived with the kids and was in her position!

Lostmyway86 · 07/10/2021 07:05

Have you ever had a c section OP?

headintheproverbial · 07/10/2021 07:11

YABU and absolutely ridiculous.

SofiaMichelle · 07/10/2021 07:11

@Zoflorananana

Why he couldn't have taken them for food elsewhere I don't know, unless he's spent all his money which wouldn't be out of character for him.

This bit stands out for me.

He's decided to have 5 fucking kids but can't feed 2 of them if it means eating out for once.

What a useless prick.

SmileySandwich · 07/10/2021 07:15

He's decided to have 5 fucking kids but can't feed 2 of them if it means eating out for once.

That's awful language to use about children. But anyway. If it's not that big a deal to feed the kids then mum can do it this one extra time.. or is it only a bother when mum has to do it?

It was short notice, he probably had food at home and maybe just maybe he thought mcdonalds was a shit food to be feeding someone harbouring a vomiting bug.

Billandben444 · 07/10/2021 07:15

He should have fed them, even a mcdonalds.
You are pushing hard for your children to have equal billing with their half-siblings and I applaud that but, from my limited experience, it will be an uphill battle for you and you might want to rethink how life is likely to pan out between them and their dad. They will never come before or have equal status with his 'new family' as it sounds as though stepmother will protect her children's position in dad's life to the detriment of yours. He's moved on with his cosy little set up and, though I'm sure he loves your children, circumstances (real or engineered) might eventually affect his contact with them. My grandson sees his dad one day a month and that's enough for him as his stepmum has always resented him as evidence that cheating hubby had a life before her. I hope I'm wrong and that your ex stands up for your children but present evidence isn't very promising, is it?

SmileySandwich · 07/10/2021 07:15

He should have communicated better about the food. But then OP should have communicated better about the bug. The kids will only suffer if the bitterness takes over.

scottishlass123 · 07/10/2021 07:16

I can understand why the pregnant woman would not want a sick child in her home but the underlying issue here is that your children are not being treated by your ex and his partner like their own kids, parents cannot opt out of looking after a sick child because of pregnancy or new baby, they wouldn't do this to their own shared child. They are treating your children differently to their own. It sounds like your 3 children hardly see their Dad anyway which isn't on and he seems to pick and choose when he sees his kids as he has put parental responsibility onto you and that is not fair from the children's perspective. Parents should want and move heaven and earth to see their children as much as possible.