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Rinoachicken · 2021-10-03T22:04:31+00:00

He worked in the same dept as WC. It’s being very widely reported, except by the BBC. AIBU to be sickened and wonder WHY the BBC are not reporting this? Link: [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/03/metropolitan-police-officer-charged-rape-hertfordshire?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other]]

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 14:22

@SammyScrounge that poster said the incident had nothing to do with recent events - it was a man previously arrested by her ex (the child’s father). Absolutely nothing to do with this thread, and something for the parents to sort out.

vivainsomnia · 04/10/2021 14:23

You are happy to sit and be a rape apologist, try and silence women talking about rape and centre men, but I have to mind my language? Are you 10 years old or something?*
You are totally out of line calling be a rape apologist.

I won't sink to your level of insults, it's not my style.

LizzieW1969 · 04/10/2021 14:23

@SammyScrounge

I agree with your post, completely. In addition, that poster has said that it’s her ex who is the police officer. So she isn’t even in a position to answer those posters asking what he and his colleagues are doing to change things.

LizzieW1969 · 04/10/2021 14:24

But yes, I agree that she should have started another thread to discuss the issue.

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 14:25

[quote LizzieW1969]@SammyScrounge

I agree with your post, completely. In addition, that poster has said that it’s her ex who is the police officer. So she isn’t even in a position to answer those posters asking what he and his colleagues are doing to change things.[/quote]
Again; that incident had nothing to do with anything on this thread. Even if all officers were decent people, that boy still would have been spat at - by a man previously arrested by his father. Still something for him to sort out.

MarshmallowSwede · 04/10/2021 14:25

Ladies, ladies, ladies.. don’t you see? The problem isn’t police officers raping and murdering women, the problem isn’t police officers being “accused” of rape, the problem isn’t police officers taking pics of two dead women in their car and sharing the photos in a WhatsApp group amongst themselves, the problem isn’t police manhandling women at a vigil… the problem is you razor toothed harpies talking about rape.

If you shrews talked about rape less and male violence less then it would go away. This all really is your own fault.

this is pretty much what’s being said anytime anyone dare say something needs to change.

StarfishDish · 04/10/2021 14:28

[quote YerAWizardHarry]@pelosi perhaps I’m pushing my own agenda on this and taking it too personally, it’s just whenever the police are in the media for a negative reason (BLM, the cases mentioned in this thread) it honestly makes me fear for the personal safety of my own family, obviously not the right thread for it when i’m worked up and upset on a Sunday evening[/quote]
@YerAWizardHarry You shouldn't feel like this. Well done to your ex and all of the other decent, honest police officers out there. Its not a job most people would do!!

vivainsomnia · 04/10/2021 14:30

this is pretty much what’s being said anytime anyone dare say something needs to change
I've only said one thing on this thread: that I don't assume someone is a rapist until they has been judged and sentenced as such.

How this has been blown to meaning that I am a rape apologist is utterly bewildering!

It's incredible how angry people can totally lose perspective in their quest for hate.

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 14:33

@vivainsomnia

this is pretty much what’s being said anytime anyone dare say something needs to change I've only said one thing on this thread: that I don't assume someone is a rapist until they has been judged and sentenced as such.

How this has been blown to meaning that I am a rape apologist is utterly bewildering!

It's incredible how angry people can totally lose perspective in their quest for hate.

I think you’d probably not think that if someone you know said they’d been raped. I’m not sure you’d wait until they’d been judged and sentenced before you believed her. Or maybe you would.

Windows01 · 04/10/2021 14:37

It's in BBC news now

mustlovegin · 04/10/2021 14:40

I know you’d love to pretend this model we see in the police is rife in other professions

Quite the opposite. I'm trying to illustrate why generalisations are false and inappropriate in any profession (teachers, police, doctors, clergy, etc) Do you understand the idea?

vivainsomnia · 04/10/2021 14:42

I think you’d probably not think that if someone you know said they’d been raped. I’m not sure you’d wait until they’d been judged and sentenced before you believed her. Or maybe you would
Indeed, but I don't expect anyone knows the person's involved here so it is irrelevant.

I also wouldn't want to be the mum of the boy who was accused of rape, judged, dirtied, rejected by everyone around him, even after she retracted her accusations and admitted she'd lied.

My point is that we cannot judge unless we know all the specificity of a case.

MarshmallowSwede · 04/10/2021 14:43

Ok.. I don’t know what the issue is? I’ve said “accused” rapist. Is that not the appropriate term now? He’s only been accused of rape.. I hope everyone who has their cape on to save this man is happy now. You’re giving Batman a run for his money today.

Listen.. if you want to chastise people for being concerned that a police officer has been accused and charged with rape. Then again that’s on you.

If that’s the hill you want to die on then so be it. I find it interesting that more people are worried about us being sure to say he’s been accused and charged with rape, but he hasn’t been proved to be a rapist… over that there is clearly an issue that needs to be addressed within the police.

Yes yes.. we get it. Not all police. Not all
Men. And he hasn’t gone to trial so we had all better protect his honour lest the Mumsnet police (department of the Met that investigates Mumsnetters for being mean to men online) charge us in contempt and we all go to jail.

Nothing makes me feel like a great feminist more than protecting the honour of men who have been accused of a sexual offenses. 🙄

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 14:43

@mustlovegin

I know you’d love to pretend this model we see in the police is rife in other professions

Quite the opposite. I'm trying to illustrate why generalisations are false and inappropriate in any profession (teachers, police, doctors, clergy, etc) Do you understand the idea?

I don’t, no. Because they’re not - teachers 1) don’t have the same amount of authority and 2) don’t have the same, or anywhere near the same, amount of professionals willing to exploit that authority.

Doctors, same. Clergy, not so much. The church is also riddled.

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 14:44

@vivainsomnia

I think you’d probably not think that if someone you know said they’d been raped. I’m not sure you’d wait until they’d been judged and sentenced before you believed her. Or maybe you would Indeed, but I don't expect anyone knows the person's involved here so it is irrelevant.

I also wouldn't want to be the mum of the boy who was accused of rape, judged, dirtied, rejected by everyone around him, even after she retracted her accusations and admitted she'd lied.

My point is that we cannot judge unless we know all the specificity of a case.

Yeah, she’s irrelevant. Just a rape victim, just a victim of rape by the police. Who cares?

mustlovegin · 04/10/2021 14:45

I agree that she should have started another thread to discuss the issue

Anyone is allowed to contribute to any thread. Are you suggesting that a wife/mother's concerns don't matter?

The thought censors are out in force today it seems

vivainsomnia · 04/10/2021 14:51

Yeah, she’s irrelevant. Just a rape victim, just a victim of rape by the police. Who cares?

You mean as was this one www.google.com/amp/s/www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/hero-police-officer-arrested-false-13760104.amp

Is it really so hard to accept that maybe just maybe, the accused is innocent.

Start at read about women being raped and you'll get my sympathy and support but you won't get me to condemned anyone not yet convicted.

NightVinca · 04/10/2021 14:51

It's on the BBC now. They are always slower to report stuff

pelosi · 04/10/2021 14:54

@mustlovegin

I agree that she should have started another thread to discuss the issue

Anyone is allowed to contribute to any thread. Are you suggesting that a wife/mother's concerns don't matter?

The thought censors are out in force today it seems

It’s not about censorship, it’s about the constant derailing of women-centred threads to ‘what about the poor menz’ and in this case ‘what about the poor schoolboys’.

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 14:55

@vivainsomnia

Yeah, she’s irrelevant. Just a rape victim, just a victim of rape by the police. Who cares?

You mean as was this one www.google.com/amp/s/www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/hero-police-officer-arrested-false-13760104.amp

Is it really so hard to accept that maybe just maybe, the accused is innocent.

Start at read about women being raped and you'll get my sympathy and support but you won't get me to condemned anyone not yet convicted.

Yes, it is. Because I know how rare false accusations are, let alone false accusations that actually make it to court, let alone false accusations making it to court resulting in a jail term.

Do you want to see how many examples of false accusations you can find for every genuine accusation I can find? Will we play that game?

vivainsomnia · 04/10/2021 15:00

I rather make no accusations than wrong ones.

What do you gain from it? Why not wait until the guy is convicted? It won't be long if it happens. Then you can make your point in all good conscience.

The guy in the article almost took his life because if people like you.

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 15:01

@vivainsomnia

I rather make no accusations than wrong ones.

What do you gain from it? Why not wait until the guy is convicted? It won't be long if it happens. Then you can make your point in all good conscience.

The guy in the article almost took his life because if people like you.

Women take their lives all the time because of people like you.

StarfishDish · 04/10/2021 15:01

@Pumperthepumper The point is though that there are still false accusations made. False accusations that ruin lives!

Pumperthepumper · 04/10/2021 15:03

[quote StarfishDish]@Pumperthepumper The point is though that there are still false accusations made. False accusations that ruin lives![/quote]
But many, many more actual rapes, resulting in no convictions: rapes that ruin lives! And that’s much, much more common.

pelosi · 04/10/2021 15:03

@vivainsomnia

I rather make no accusations than wrong ones.

What do you gain from it? Why not wait until the guy is convicted? It won't be long if it happens. Then you can make your point in all good conscience.

The guy in the article almost took his life because if people like you.

You and @mustlovegin keep bleating on about this and virtue signalling about it, but no one has said the guy is guilty.

We are allowed to be concerned that there is another accusation about another Met officer.

Stop silencing women.