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15yr old girl died of covid

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Louiselady500 · 02/10/2021 22:22

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-58772671

Will this make people reconsider allowing their teenagers to have the vaccine.
Yes or No?

It’s made me think a lot about it even though my child isn’t old enough to be vaccinated yet. If the times comes I think I will be much more convinced than I maybe was before.

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waterrat · 02/10/2021 22:53

This is devastatingly sad but please bear in mind comparison with numbers of teens who die of flu or pneumonia or in traffic accidents. Covid is not a risk to teens overall. Teens were offered the vaccine because of impact on school closures not because they benefit overall from the jab.

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 02/10/2021 22:53

So sad for that family and her friends.

12 Yr old DD had Covid last week she wasnt hospital ill and it didn't seem to affect her chest at all but she had a temp for a week and was really run down. It was the brain fog / forgetfulness that really threw her as she got physically better, she said it was scary because she kept getting up to get a drink or whatever and completely forgot what she was doing. Shes back at school now and says she keeps making simple mistakes in her work, stuff she's been able to do for years because she just can't remember. She missed her covid vaccine but says as soon as she can have it she wants it as she doesn't want to feel like that again. I support her in her decision.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/10/2021 22:53

Children and their parents have to consent to the vaccine. You are presuming it’s de facto the parents saying no. Not all children will consent so YABU on this account.

PurpleDaisies · 02/10/2021 22:53

Utterly tragic.

Porcupineintherough · 02/10/2021 22:53

Covid infection is 6 times more likely to cause myocarditis in younger people than the Pfizer vaccine. Worried about myocarditis? Then get vaccinated against COVID.

debbs77 · 02/10/2021 22:53

Mine will be having it now, on the back of this (local to us) story.

However, they'll not be having it in school, but when I have mine too (bot having it yet for personal reasons). So in a couple of months

waterrat · 02/10/2021 22:53

I'm pro vaccine by the way. It's just that one death does not equal statistical risk

BeenHereForAges · 02/10/2021 22:54

Absolutely heartbreaking.

goawayalcg · 02/10/2021 22:55

Mine will be having the vaccine as soon as it's offered to them.

PurpleDaisies · 02/10/2021 22:55

Teens were offered the vaccine because of impact on school closures not because they benefit overall from the jab.

Yes, but the JCVI still did acknowledge that the benefits of being vaccinated on pure health grounds did outweigh the risks by a small margin.

PeachesPumpkin · 02/10/2021 22:56

I am going to let mine have the vaccine anyway but was a bit worried about the small risk of myocarditis.
Seeing from the article that poor Jorja had myocarditis from COVID itself, makes me feel less worried about the vaccine.

SuperstarDog · 02/10/2021 22:58

It’s very sad.

My kids have decided not to have the vaccine, they’re aware of this tragic case and it hasn’t changed their mind.

NewNameADayKeepsSpiesAtBay · 02/10/2021 22:59

@Porcupineintherough

Covid infection is 6 times more likely to cause myocarditis in younger people than the Pfizer vaccine. Worried about myocarditis? Then get vaccinated against COVID.
Interested in your source please? Because all I’ve seen indicated 2 per million would suffer myocarditis as a result of Covid itself but 4 per million from the vaccine. I’m not anti vax and am fully vaccinated myself but am not seeing this is the best option for my DC as things stand. But will change my mind if the science stacks up enough to make me do so when considering DCs personal circumstances.
Takingabreakagain · 02/10/2021 23:00

@HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime
Surely having recovered from covid she now has natural immunity and doesn't need a vaccine?

gogohm · 02/10/2021 23:00

The possible side effects of the vaccines are also the side effects of covid - myocarditis, blood clots to name 2. Except it's far more likely to get serious side effects from catching covid than the vaccine. Obviously people need to make their own decisions but my kids chose to be vaccinated asap, as they are over 18 they were both vaccinated by April, one is group 6, the other queued for leftovers.

Coyoacan · 02/10/2021 23:01

Everything has a risk, unfortunately. The question is whether there is a higher risk from covid or vaccine. Personally, being elderly, there is obviously more risk for me from covid but I suspect the risk of the vaccine is greater for children

thenightsky · 02/10/2021 23:01

@x2boys

This is heartbreaking, my 14 year old son has already had covid and thankfully wasn't really that ill with it Hes having his covid vaccination on Tuesday, he wants it and i want him to have it That poor family my heart goes out to them.
But if he's already had covid, why does he need a vaccine?
PurpleDaisies · 02/10/2021 23:03

I suspect the risk of the vaccine is greater for children

It’s a good thing that there are studies…

ZenNudist · 02/10/2021 23:06

Obviously this is heartbreaking for the family and sad to lose a young life. She died of myocarditis. This rare but the sheer numbers of people getting covid mean its going to affect some.

A friend died of this when she was 16. She would have been in her 40s now. I remember it was said "she got a cold and it went straight to her heart". At the time it was like she'd dropped dead of a cold.

I don't think we can worry about rare side effects of covid. It's not a reason NOT to get vaccinated though.

user1481840227 · 02/10/2021 23:09

It definitely won't change my mind. I'm in Ireland and there was a young man in his early 20s who died very shortly after receiving the jab and the news reports didn't mention the vaccine at all, they just said he died after a "short illness".
Of course it may not have been the vaccine, but the issue is that there is no transparency and if someone dies 'with' covid then the death is used to push the vaccination program even though covid might not have caused it , if someone dies not long after being vaccinated then that is ignored.

It's propaganda. Without transparency of course parents are going to be concerned.

PeachesPumpkin · 02/10/2021 23:09

@Porcupineintherough

Covid infection is 6 times more likely to cause myocarditis in younger people than the Pfizer vaccine. Worried about myocarditis? Then get vaccinated against COVID.
I didn’t know that at all. Thanks.
Porcupineintherough · 02/10/2021 23:10

@NewNameADayKeepsSpiesAtBay the study was reported in the New Scientist this summer, the actual study was an American one and, I believe, was specific to young men and boys. I was interested because right back in April/May 2020 there was a Spanish medical article saying that a huge number of men hospitalized for COVID showed signs of heart inflammation (it was something like 80% but these were hospitalizations so very sick and the sample size was small). In April 2020 I was suffering from covid and had a lot of chest pains and was reading everything I could get my hands on to try snd work out what was happening to me.

WorraLiberty · 02/10/2021 23:10

That's utterly tragic OP

But then so was [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-58330796 the death of radio presenter Lisa Shaw]] which is being attributed to her having the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.

It's tough enough having to weigh everything up and choose whether or not to vaccinate ourselves, without the added pressure of deciding whether to support/encourage your children to have it too.

I'm grateful mine are all adults now and responsible for their own decisions.

PeachesPumpkin · 02/10/2021 23:11

@user1481840227

It definitely won't change my mind. I'm in Ireland and there was a young man in his early 20s who died very shortly after receiving the jab and the news reports didn't mention the vaccine at all, they just said he died after a "short illness". Of course it may not have been the vaccine, but the issue is that there is no transparency and if someone dies 'with' covid then the death is used to push the vaccination program even though covid might not have caused it , if someone dies not long after being vaccinated then that is ignored.

It's propaganda. Without transparency of course parents are going to be concerned.

They only put COVID on the death certificate if it was a significant contributing factor though.
WorraLiberty · 02/10/2021 23:11

Sorry, buggered up the link www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-58330796