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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
lcl · 08/10/2021 22:53

Op how has the week panned out …?

flashy44 · 09/10/2021 23:02

Get rid please,i can see it will not end well.if he is like this now what will he be like when your kids are teens?that stage will bring many challenges in itself.Put your kids first.

GrandmasCat · 09/10/2021 23:06

This thread is taking a surreal tone… the OP left the guy at the start of the thread and she is still on the receiving end of the righteousness of those who didn’t bother to read even the OP’s posts.

Plumbuddle · 10/10/2021 11:12

@GrandmasCat

This thread is taking a surreal tone… the OP left the guy at the start of the thread and she is still on the receiving end of the righteousness of those who didn’t bother to read even the OP’s posts.
Yes, the premium membership allows you to just click on all an ops posts at once. I now find this really helpful and nomally only read an op entries on any new big thread I find, unless their post has sparked an amazing debate in another topic. It's annoying getting email reminders to a thread only to find the reader has only just responded to the first post.
BiLuminous · 10/10/2021 11:16

Im not on premium membership & i can click see all.

CiaoForNiao · 10/10/2021 11:19

"See all" isn't a premium feature.

MumDad1958 · 10/10/2021 11:24

Stay strong.

Plumbuddle · 10/10/2021 11:32

@CiaoForNiao

"See all" isn't a premium feature.
Thanks so much! Ending my annoying premium fees!
user124765 · 12/10/2021 07:57

Hello everyone. It's been a really tough week, I've had the worst stomach bug and the new house is in chaos still because I haven't been able to do much at all.
I've had no further emails or messages from him, but he did hand deliver a letter whilst we were all still in bed yesterday morning. I admit that I felt myself really weaken when I read it. He talked about his childhood, his faults and what he proposes to do to deal with them if I give him another chance, and basically just said how sorry he is and how much he loves us all. He signed off saying that if he doesn't hear from me in response then he respects my decision and will leave us alone. I'm quite confused if I'm honest. Sad
The kids have also been asking for him, just to add salt to the wound. I'm going to do my very best to stay strong and not let him back in to our lives though....but it's hard.

OP posts:
Hopeisallineed · 12/10/2021 07:59

Anyone that called me a ‘fucking prick’ would be gone.

Fashionesta · 12/10/2021 08:07

Only just read this thread. I dated someone like this. He made me feel awful about my DD. Thankfully he dumped me and I realized how toxic he was. However, the letter you have just received to me screams narcissist. He will play the victim and try and get back into your life. For the sake of your kids please don't. Also hope you all feel better soon.

HuckleberryJam · 12/10/2021 08:30

You're right to not let him back op. Remember how nasty he was about your parenting and how awful it made you feel

TumtumTree · 12/10/2021 08:30

In the letter did he promise to never shout at your children or call them spoilt or accuse you of being too soft on them?

EdgeOfTheSky · 12/10/2021 08:36

Sorry things have been so hard OP. A stomach bug is the last thing you needed Sad

Who knows: maybe you have dine him a favour and your refusal to accept his behaviour has made him face up to difficult things.

But if he is sincere in this, his journey will be long and hard and whatever result it has for him, you have no guarantee that he will come out the other end as the step parent you choose. And with you and your kids is not the right place for him to be when working it all out.

ClaryFairchild · 12/10/2021 08:43

He talked about his childhood, his faults and what he proposes to do to deal with them if I give him another chance

Shouldn't he be dealing with them regardless of whether you give him a chance or not? If he really wanted to be a better person he would do it regardless of whether you were in his life or not.

billy1966 · 12/10/2021 09:03

So he will only deal with his nasty abusive behaviour if you give him a chance?

He had your children and yourself walking on eggshells.

I suggest you read your posts and reflect on the bile he hurled at you.

That IS who HE is.

I appreciate it is hard, but please don't allow this abusive, controlling man back into your childrens lives again.

Flowers
CiderJolly · 12/10/2021 09:24

Don’t let him fool you. He has already shown you what he is, believe him. Words are that, just words. His actions to date are who he is

pompomsgalore · 12/10/2021 09:28

Just reread all your posts on this thread and then see how you feel. Stay strong OP and think of your children and your wonderful new found freedom. You haven't had chance to enjoy it yet.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 12/10/2021 10:03

The kids will pick up on his attitude. They'll either start walking on eggshells too (in other words, become anxious) or they'll fight back (which will escalate the attitudes).

Imagine what this will be like when they are teenagers.

He has to go. He has to go.

Plumbuddle · 12/10/2021 16:20

Tell the kids how awful he was about them and to you. You have rightly kept them in ignorance but if it comes back to bite you as it has, give them the missing piece of the jigsaw.
He is unlikely to stop here. Get legal advice.

billy1966 · 12/10/2021 17:52

@Plumbuddle

Agree.

Time to tell the children that his behaviour was appalling and that he spoke really rudely and unkindly about you.

Don't protect his image with them.

MisterMeaner · 12/10/2021 18:06

Maybe he's genuinely sorry. Maybe he isn't. Maybe he will change. Maybe he won't. Maybe you'll regret ending it. Maybe you won't

Are you prepared to gamble with your kids' happiness though?

MamaNorth · 12/10/2021 18:09

Stay strong!!!
You dumped him. He decided to retaliate by telling you that you are a shit mum. Why? That is none of his business.
Block. Ignore. Block. Ignore.

I'm so upset that I can't catch my breath for crying. This evening he has sent me the most horrible message telling me what a shitty mum I am. I've blocked him on everything now...no idea why I didn't do that to begin with. I'm just absolutely livid that he's said these things to me. I can't stop crying. I know I'm not the best mum but I'm not the worst! His message made me feel like shit.

GrandmasCat · 12/10/2021 22:55

Hold tight OP. That’s how abusers work: they are lovely, they are nasty, and when you let them go they are nice to win you back but, if you still say no, he’ll break lose.

Keep strong, actions talk truth in a way words alone do not. You know who he is, don’t let him back in.

mathanxiety · 17/10/2021 05:09

He talked about his childhood, his faults and what he proposes to do to deal with them if I give him another chance, and basically just said how sorry he is and how much he loves us all. He signed off saying that if he doesn't hear from me in response then he respects my decision and will leave us alone.

Bin this, or burn it in the back garden. Stay strong. He doesn't mean a word of it. He is trying to get back in because he has nowhere else to go that is quite as comfortable.

Hopefully he will find a good therapist to talk to about his childhood, or whatever. Your home is not the place for him to work through his problems, and you and your children are not guinea pigs.

I'm quite confused if I'm honest.

Bingo! This is the result he was hoping for.