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We fecking told you so. Brexit making us suffer.

413 replies

flashbac · 24/09/2021 22:08

Project Fear you said. Sunlit Uplands you said. Sovereignty you said. Can I buy food and heat my house with Sovereignty? Can I put sovereignty in my car's fuel tank? Can I?

It was common sense that this would happen. Common SENSE.

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InThisMultiverse · 24/09/2021 23:28

OP has presumably done an about face and is off celebrating the good news about the lamb.

antoniawhite · 24/09/2021 23:28

I agree with you iggly except I don’t think the Tories are even penny wise. Bunch of fucking crooks.

Iggly · 24/09/2021 23:28

@Bunnyfuller

We should vote for policies not personalities. So many fell for bumbling Boris because he talks in throwaway sound bites.

How many rich Etonians do you know care about you and your family’s circumstances?

None then.

This a million times.

There’s a reason why the Tories think it’s fine to cut universal credit - because it is nothing to them. Literally pennies. Jeez, there are stories of Boris and his mates burning £50 notes as a teenager. Imagine having the spite to that?

DerAlteMann · 24/09/2021 23:30

I voted remain but this is getting boring now. We are where we are. How the hell yelling "^We told you so!"" makes anything better for anyone I don't understand. Still, it must give some people a sense of satisfaction, since so many seem to like doing it.

ForensicAccountant · 24/09/2021 23:30

*EatSleepRantRepeat

You’re confusing numbers of license holders with the current driver workforce.

Yes, the number available for the workforce who can't be tempted back into it because of the shit conditions. My best friend's partner is one of those, he's gone back to construction after spending a fortune getting a license*

Yeah, there’s a shortage in construction too.

Mummyoflittledragon · 24/09/2021 23:34

@antoniawhite

I really don’t like Corbyn at all, but it’s pretty mindblowing to me that anyone could think that voting for a man who’d already been sacked twice for lying, and had a pretty murky history of offensive, racist remarks, and who’d already said ‘Fuck business’ was better than voting for Corbyn.
You do have a point. But that was chip paper by the last election. Corbyn otoh looked like citizen smith 40 years on and staunchly refused to step down when his party tried to oust him. Both of which were a godsend to the clown.
Lalliella · 24/09/2021 23:37

@IvorHughJarrs

Jesus wept! Is this never going to end? We have had years since that vote and a worldwide pandemic. It is time to move on, stop whingeing and just get on with things regardless of how we voted at the time
You’re right @IvorHughJarrs, it’s never going to end. Not until the absolute and utter stupidity of that vote has been reversed. The repercussions of it will be felt for a very long time. We are, rightly, the laughing stock of the world. We had a really good thing. And we threw it away. We were lied to. And we believed the lies. What a country of fuckwits.
Dave20 · 24/09/2021 23:39

Wasn’t it mainly pensioners who voted to leave though?

ilovesooty · 24/09/2021 23:40

@DismantledKing

If you voted for Brexit, you are living in the country you created. Tyvm.

It’s just a pity that the rest of us have to pay for their stupid decisions.

And if you voted for this government.

Own it.

AlbertBridge · 24/09/2021 23:40

I suspect other EU countries report on the U.K. situation every day as a warning to other countries not to leave.

I hate what's happening here. I'm scared. I voted Remain and the rest of my family voted leave. I hate how they refuse to admit it was probably a mistake.

However... if it does force wages up for U.K. workers, that can't be a bad thing. Can it? Long term. Very very long term. Very.

Thewiseoneincognito · 24/09/2021 23:41

The worst part is that this is only just the beginning! A perfect storm of Brexit, Autumn and Covid is about to slap us all in the face.

Christmas 2021 will be a mess.

Ilovegreentomatoes · 24/09/2021 23:41

Can the remoaners not comprehend the many more complex issues that are causing these issues instead of ranting about brexit every five minutes.

VelvetChairGirl · 24/09/2021 23:41

[quote DismantledKing]There’s this for starters.
www.thejlc.org/letter_to_jeremy_corbyn[/quote]
So being anti israels apartheid and illegal land grabbing not to mention illegal weapons development and interference in foreign politics is anti semitic?

yes I thought that would be the card you pulled well I am of Semitic heritage (Armenian Mizrahi jewish) and I am anti israeli too, so I guess you are calling me and all others of jewish decent who are appalled at whats going on there anti Semitic, semites too Hmm

DismantledKing · 24/09/2021 23:41

@Ilovegreentomatoes

Can the remoaners not comprehend the many more complex issues that are causing these issues instead of ranting about brexit every five minutes.
Your use of ‘remoaners’ shows how seriously to take you
DismantledKing · 24/09/2021 23:43

@VelvetChairGirl You might be antisemitic, I don’t really know. Corbyn certainly was, and associated with antisemites. Your obsession with Israel is a bad sign though.

Doris86 · 24/09/2021 23:45

@drivinmecrazy

None of this chaos here in other parts of Europe and we too had the pandemic. Laughing stock and careful what you wish for spring to mind.
No panic buying in mainland Europe either though, which is what is causing the problem. Similar to when the British were stock piling toilet paper, but those in Europe didn’t.
midsomermurderess · 24/09/2021 23:45

We are not a laughing stock, we are an object of pity. Look at the representatives at the UN when Johnson delivered his truly fuckwit speech. A once serious nation, not without its issues, formerly broadly having been respected, bring reduced to that, by that arsehole.

Dave20 · 24/09/2021 23:46

I didn’t particularly like Tony Blair or John Major but they both said leaving would be a mistake.
They both understood economics.
Major was himself chancellor of the exchequer before becoming PM.

Tealightsandd · 24/09/2021 23:49

@antoniawhite

I really don’t like Corbyn at all, but it’s pretty mindblowing to me that anyone could think that voting for a man who’d already been sacked twice for lying, and had a pretty murky history of offensive, racist remarks, and who’d already said ‘Fuck business’ was better than voting for Corbyn.
So you don't like racism but you would vote for Corbyn? How odd.

Btw Corbyn, unlike Boris Johnson, has been a Brexiter for decades. He never wanted us in the EC/EEC/EU in the first place.

I know several EU workers who've now left the UK (not HGV drivers). All have visas to stay if they want. They don't. Standards of living in the UK are down. As are wages. But house prices are up. We have the smallest house sizes in Europe. Then there's Covid. We are a high risk country. The sick man and woman of Europe. Not an attractive option for a prospective employee.

One of the problems is successive governments focusing on short-termism. We could reverse the trend now. If we wanted to. Refugees and the Calais migrants. Many are fully capable of working. And they want to. Afterall no-one wants to be left to rot in homeless accommodation unemployed.

So train them up. The growing number of UK unemployed too. HGV drivers, and whatever other jobs are in shortage.

Some of the labour shortages are because of poverty wages. People simply can't afford to live on them. Particularly if they're in London, and to a lesser but still affected extent the rest of the south east.

There's a very serious public health housing and homelessness emergency going on, that is especially acute in London and the south east. Yet many refugees are being placed there.

Substandard overcroweded unaffordable temporary housing in these areas of high pollution is hardly conductive to recovery from trauma. Look outside of the south east for their placements and support, and support them with resettlement including the training for our shortage occupations.

Womenopause · 24/09/2021 23:53

Vaccine rollout better than most of the rest of the world -- that in itself makes me glad to have voted Brexit.

HGV driver shortages are difficult in the short term but hopefully it will mean wages and working conditions will improve for lorry drivers.

What, you mean Remain voters don't actually care about the workers? Hmm They just literally whinge that they can't get limoncello (I read it on here).

VelvetChairGirl · 24/09/2021 23:53

[quote DismantledKing]@VelvetChairGirl You might be antisemitic, I don’t really know. Corbyn certainly was, and associated with antisemites. Your obsession with Israel is a bad sign though.[/quote]
being against israel is not anti anything except war, injustice and violence, talking to "terrorists" is common sense, we wouldnt have had the northern Ireland peace process without talking to "terrorists" for a start.

one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Ilovegreentomatoes · 24/09/2021 23:54

A lot of migrant workers are choosing to go back to their country because they are sick of shitty wages and poor living conditions.
Basically the uk is not an attractive place to live any more.Lack of housing, cost of living and stagnant wages are hardly very appealing for a migrant worker to want to stay.

RumblyMumbly · 24/09/2021 23:55

Flipping heck anyone who voted for this imbecile to run the country into the ground please don't make the same mistake again.

We fecking told you so. Brexit making us suffer.
x2boys · 24/09/2021 23:56

@RumblyMumbly

Flipping heck anyone who voted for this imbecile to run the country into the ground please don't make the same mistake again.
Who do you suggest as an alternative?
antoniawhite · 24/09/2021 23:57

I don't think I said I did vote for Corbyn, did I? I said that voting for Boris Johnson with his long list of awful qualities was worse.
It’s not clear to me that Corbyn is anti Semitic, as I don’t think being against the way Israel is behaving equates with antisemitism.
I do think he handled the issue of antisemitism within the party badly. I think he’s a poor leader. But as a person he knocks spots off Johnson.