Why is Sabina Nessa murder not all over the media?

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Such a tragic killing and sad, truly awful to hear about this murder.

Though I can't understand why, it doesn't get the same media/public attention as Sarah Everard who died in similarly tragic circumstances not long ago.

Both are equally tragic, two young women attacked in similar circumstances - the only difference I can see in these cases is the colour of their skin. Sarah's murder was everywhere - before we knew it was a police officer responsible.

Women had lined the streets in protest to make the country a safer place for women.

I can't help but notice where are these women protesting for Sabina? Or for the Killmarsh murders, or other women of colour?

The media treats women of colour - even to this day - very differently to white women.

It feels like the media are sending a clear message that black lives STILL 'don't matter' quite as much as their white counterparts.

Stop trying to stir things up.

Read as ‘Stop making me uncomfortable by pointing out injustice’.

I’m just shocked that so much energy and money is still thrown in trying to find Claudia Lawrence so many years down the line and with no reliable leads

Isn’t this due to the persistence of her family? The lesson here is that if you go missing, you need a strong network to advocate for you in the face of media indifference and basic police laziness.

I’m thinking here too of the father of a man who was found raped and murdered in some celebrity’s swimming pool.

Sadly the man died without knowing what happened to his son, but it shows how persistence pays off when getting coverage and police resources (also, it did involve a celebrity so that was another angle for the media)

You’re quoting out of context. That poster was speaking generally (pasted below). No one has said Sarah Everard was privileged. Please don’t lie.

No, it's you who has taken her post out of the context of the rest of the thread. She was posting in the context of a discussion in which previous posters had mentioned Sarah Everard's very vocal friends as a reason for her disappearance receiving attention.

I won't accuse you of lying, because I think that's a low and fundamentally weak tactic for dealing with people who may see things in a different way to yourself

Most cases won't have the attention the a Sarah Everard case had simpy because she had friends who worked in the media pushing it out there. They arranged protests and vigils which obviously got even more attention.......it was also an unusual case given she was murdered by a person we'd usually run to for safety.

After a slow start, the story is growing in importance. Perhaps because of the accusations of racism, who knows? It is the first story in the MailOnline this morning.

Sarah Everard wasn't just white, she was middle class, young and photogenic. The story went on for longer as she was missing and the perpertrator was a police officer.

She was in the hot spot of advantage for media attention and the police taking it seriously but is still dead.

The deaths of women of any kind are white noise in our society. Whilest we debate amongst ourselves on equity of publicity we are not focusing on male violence or the fact that yet again, women are being advised to stay home, restrict their lives because its too much trouble to address male violence. Men can sit back and laugh at the success of the perpetual divide and rule.

@GrandmasCat

Simple answer? Because she is not white.

People relate to people similar to them, if they can’t relate to them, they assume that these are things that happen to other people. But accepting this reality is accepting we are racist so you will have people having a go at you because they are not prepared to accept that, actually, white victims get more attention.

I’m just shocked that so much energy and money is still thrown in trying to find Claudia Lawrence so many years down the line and with no reliable leads, yet women from minorities also disappear all the time and someway they are forgotten as it assumed the disappearance has to do with the culture or environment people assume the victim was part of.

By the way, this situation appears all over the world and sometimes is the white women who are ignored or disregarded when the crime occurred in an environment where being white is a minority, for example, that British girl who was gang raped in Paphos being accused of lying, white women accused of adultery after reporting a rape in some arab countries etc.

It is all about the perception of “otherness”

@Cadent

I wish I hadn’t posted tbh. There is not enough time in the day to write what I really want and frankly it wouldn’t really matter anyway.
No - to answer your question I don’t think it’s about privilege. I know only to well about the unheard voices of ethnic minority groups.
I’m just sad for all women and sad about this thread and sad about everything that women have to tolerate frankly.
I’ll light a candle on Friday and probably cry a little for Sabine and all the other women who have suffered. Then I’ll go back to work on Monday until the next time…which according to stats should be about two days …

*Sabina

@GCAcademic

I intend no disrespect to the Duchess. This post is about the attention and coverage that one woman's murder got Vs another. You really think that the Duchess visiting Sarah's vigil didn't bring an ounce of extra spotlight to Sarah's murder? Or that the visit actually happened because of the media attention Sarah's case was getting at the time. Needless to say, any amount of extra spotlight will not bring either of these women back.

Totally agree OP. And those saying it's in the news, trending etc surely must notice the difference in the coverage and outcry between Sabina & Sarah's murder, both women, innocently murdered when they should be safe.
Sabina was a woman of colour and that is why there are no calls for candle lit vigils for her. That's the awful, awful truth. 😔

Agree with PP's. it is a very different scenario-

I think there were so many posts about Sarah because they were searching for Sarah-hoping she was still alive and her friends and family flooded social media with an orchestrated campaign trying to find her.

Sabina is trending on twitter now-I hope her friends and family do have a vigil for her.
Yet another tragic senseless killing of a woman and hopefully the murderer will be found quickly

I think it’s as much to do with women going missing or being murdered not actually being a big story as it is to do with race.

It’s so commonplace that the only way to make it a big story is to have friends had family who can, and do, push and push for coverage.

Otherwise it’s just another woman killed by another man - it happens so frequently it’s not (to the news people) a big story.

@MsHedgehog

Those who are banging on about how there is no race element, and it’s only because Sarah Everard was missing, I don’t remember Joy Morgan getting this much attention when she was reported missing.

But yes, let’s continue to find any excuse to ignore away the obvious.

No-one is saying that there's NO race element. They're saying that the two incidents aren't directly comparable in some other glaring ways, too. So any difference in publicity can't be put down purely to racism.

Had Sabin also been missing for some time, had some very publicity savvy friends, and it's found that she's killed by a police officer, yes, one could call out racism in its entirety. But that's not the case.

[quote Onyernelly]@Cadent

I wish I hadn’t posted tbh. There is not enough time in the day to write what I really want and frankly it wouldn’t really matter anyway.
No - to answer your question I don’t think it’s about privilege. I know only to well about the unheard voices of ethnic minority groups.
I’m just sad for all women and sad about this thread and sad about everything that women have to tolerate frankly.
I’ll light a candle on Friday and probably cry a little for Sabine and all the other women who have suffered. Then I’ll go back to work on Monday until the next time…which according to stats should be about two days …[/quote]
You’ve spelt her name wrong. It’s Sabina, not Sabine. That says more than anything else frankly. You couldn’t even take the time to get her name right.

Sabina. Typo.

@MobyDicksTinyCanoe

Most cases won't have the attention the a Sarah Everard case had simpy because she had friends who worked in the media pushing it out there. They arranged protests and vigils which obviously got even more attention.......it was also an unusual case given she was murdered by a person we'd usually run to for safety.

I agree. They are two different cases, Sarah's gained more attention and more outrage because it was a policeman who had murdered her. The person who you should be able to turn too if you need help. Which made women feel even more unsafe on the streets.

It is a similar murder to the faith of PC Julia James.
I was surprised at the silence with Julia too.

The media treats women of colour - even to this day - very differently to white women

Shame on you, OP, for using a young woman's brutal murder to inflame emotions.

Sarah Everard gained such attention because she was missing and her friends blitzed social media in an attempt to find her. It created a public interest story.

I don't know why countrywide vigils aren't held for every woman murdered. I've never organised one, why don't you?

I am just so sick of men murder in women and girls. This case and also the evil monster who killed the mum and her poor children in Sheffield on a sleepover 😡

@GCAcademic

You’re quoting out of context. That poster was speaking generally (pasted below). No one has said Sarah Everard was privileged. Please don’t lie.

No, it's you who has taken her post out of the context of the rest of the thread. She was posting in the context of a discussion in which previous posters had mentioned Sarah Everard's very vocal friends as a reason for her disappearance receiving attention.

I won't accuse you of lying, because I think that's a low and fundamentally weak tactic for dealing with people who may see things in a different way to yourself

What’s weak is asserting a statement was made ‘Sarah Everard was priviliged’ and then not being able to back it up and quoting someone out of context. No one has said Sarah Everard was priviliged.

It is

[quote Onyernelly]@Cadent. Just fuck off why don’t you.[/quote]
Not going to have that candle lit vigil then? Why am I not surprised.

I believe it's called the 'Missing White Female' syndrome. Although that's not a completely accurate discription. The missing/murdered women who get the most attention are usually young, pretty and white (often with blond hair too). These are the murders that people are most upset about and wonder "How could someone do this?"

Sadly what gets ignored is that women are routinely murdered by men and in recent years the murder rate of female victims has been increasing in western nations.

Yet, they still won't consider men killing women a hate crime. There is always "another reason" as to why these assholes kill women.