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my daughter is the unpopular kid in class

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sunnydaysarenotenough · 21/09/2021 11:19

I'm really struggling with the situation my daughter finds herself in and would appreciate some practical advice on what to do next.
Background - we are British but live in Europe and our kids were born here. They've been in the local school since nursery and speak the language fluently etc, so we always assumed they would fit right in. My son is doing OK at school socially and has a few friends, but my daughter is really struggling. She is now in Y6 and has gone from having a couple of friends in earlier years (always boys) to absolutely no friends at school.
She is quite a resilient character, and last year palled up with a boy in the class who was being bullied, but he has now left the school and she is alone.
Of course, she is not perfect, but she is really kind, funny, lovely looking and loves sport. However, she's now at an age where the boys don't want to play with her anymore - and when she asks to join in a game of football they call her names - every day - mainly ‘fat’ (she is slightly chubby but is tall and sporty – essentially a normal sized girl in a country where some kids are smaller).
The girls all refuse to play with her at all. This came to a head last week when they held a vote that decided she cannot join in any class games during breaks - and no one will allow her to sit with them at lunch.
Her class teacher gives the impression that she is not especially keen on her either - mainly because she hates sitting for a whole day in the same classroom, which is the rule here since COVID.
She’s always the last to be picked for any team or group activity – even in sports, which she is good at. For example, her pupil group in music class (which the teacher had to put her in because no one wanted her to join their group) had to perform a dance to some music last week, which she is perfectly able to do well, but she was told by her colleagues that she had to go last because she’s ‘rubbish’. It's quite an academic school and although she has a good brain the teachers tell me she often seems to be disorganised or unmotivated in the classes. She has passed every year to date with a low/medium grade.
Last Friday she was crying about the whole situation and telling me that everyone hates her - pupils and staff. She wants to leave the school.
Unfortunately, it would be incredibly difficult for her to change school - there are not many alternatives here, apart from very poorly funded state schools, where she may or may not fit in and may not recieve a great education, or English language schools for international students, which I’ve never heard anything good about. Her current school is supposed to be the best in the region.
So here we are… I've been through all the practical things that I can think of - even buying new ‘cool’ shoes last weekend, as the class teased her about her shoes. She has nothing especially 'different' about her – apart from that she always preferred playing with the boys when she was younger - she just seems to have become the unpopular girl in the class.
She does football club outside of school, but is the only girl there, so no friends to be made. She just isn’t interested in dance academy or any of the other more 'girl-oriented' out of school activities.
If she stays at the school she will be in the same class of students for the whole of school until 18, so things really need to change… I would really appreciate any ideas as it is breaking my heart and I really worry about the long-term implications for her self-esteem etc.

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DonnaDonna01 · 21/09/2021 20:03

Bottom line is it’s not a good school if it condones or ignores bullying at this level.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 21/09/2021 20:04

@LilyMumsnet

Hi all

This thread is turning into a bit of a pile-on against one particular poster.
Can we please draw the line now? Thanks.

The bottom line is Bluntness100 needs to try to fit in @MNHQ. In some respects it’s good to be an individual and to stand by it, but it means she’s nothing in common with any of the other posters. And she needs to accept that she has to put up with the pile -on, no matter how much she dislikes it. And she can’t make her feelings known to such an extent. The bottom line here is she either makes an effort to fit in, or she goes through MN unpopular or she goes to a shit forum where it might be even worse on the pile-on front. She can’t change others behaviour but she can change herself and make an effort. Wink
Bananarama21 · 21/09/2021 20:14

The fact the other boy who was being bullied and left says it all pull her out she's not thriving there.

DamnUserName21 · 21/09/2021 20:19

Kids can be such assholes.
Move her.

CallMeMabel · 21/09/2021 20:25

This to the power 10.

tallulahwullah · 21/09/2021 20:26

Sounds like a bunch of nasty racists get your DD out look after her!

CallMeMabel · 21/09/2021 20:26

That was supposed to quote JesusInThe CabbageVan!

SueSaid · 21/09/2021 20:28

@JesusInTheCabbageVan do get over yourself. We can all disagree, I disagreed with the pp's comments but you must debate like a grown up, stop being a clipboard waving bossy boots telling people off Confused.

Scautish · 21/09/2021 20:35

Oooft @JaniieJones

Think you may have missed the point. Cringing for you……

Samuraisammy · 21/09/2021 20:35

Sorry to hear of this, this is heartbreaking.
Second everyone saying move her, and to a school which has lots of clubs that she can get stuck into. You’re the parent and if you let her endure this for more years to come she will resent you for it.
This can be turned around into an exciting lifeline for her, look into school websites/prospectus’s together - but you have to make it clear to her that you only get as much as you get in to a certain degree (judging by when you say at times she isn’t keen on certain things). If she goes into it with the right mindset and is enthusiastic then she will get off to a great start. Doesn’t matter that the other school is poorly funded, you’d be mad to subject to any more days at this school if you have the option to leave. Stress could impact her capabilities during exams too so you’d be better off moving imo.

emsie12345 · 21/09/2021 20:36

You have described perfectly the situation I found myself in 30 years ago. I suffered about 12 years of this through the British school system and am only now starting to recover emotionally at nearly 40 years of age. Academically I doubt will ever recover.
I was out of there like a bat out of hell it put me off education for life. I have a daughter who has just started reception and I'm desparately trying not to project anxiety onto her. This will affect your daughters life permanently if it carries on, trust me. The rage I feel when I think about this is aimed at the kids, the teachers, the head and the system, but to be brutally honest the entire blame lies with my mother. She was the one who could have stopped it all and didn't. Largely for similar hesitations to yours. Please get her out of there she is being abused.

Samuraisammy · 21/09/2021 20:36

Only get as much as you put in! *

Groovyguineapig · 21/09/2021 20:39

I was in a similar position to your daughter, ostracised throughout a large part of my schooling for no apparent reason and can identify a lot with what is going on with her. My parents refused to move me because it was inconvenient for them, I'm not saying it will be the same with your daughter but it has had a massive impact on my life. My confidence was destroyed as a result, I started truanting from the age of 14 (not to do anything fun, literally hiding in the woods close to the school or walking the streets because I was terrified to be sitting alone in class with everyone refusing to pair up with me/throwing things at me). It affected my GCSE's, I was predicted A's but ended up only getting C's and B's because I missed so much of year 10 and 11. I went into sixth form and became more popular but I really doubted people's intentions and whether they really wanted to be my friend or if it was all a joke and they were making fun of me. I still feel as though I'm unworthy of my partner because there is inherently something wrong with me otherwise why did the whole school bully me? It has affected my confidence in the workplace. Please move her.

Forgothowmuchlhatehomeschoolin · 21/09/2021 20:44

I have a friend who was bullied mercilessly through school and it has affected everything she does as an adult so l would 100% move her to a school that she will be happy in. Disgraceful that she isn't being supported, poor thing and poor you too xx

winterchills · 21/09/2021 20:46

This is absolutely heartbreaking 🥺please move your daughter schools. I think her mental health could be seriously effected therefore I think they should be the priority

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/09/2021 20:59

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

Grin Grin

wingingit987 · 21/09/2021 21:13

Reading this actually made me feel physically sick. That poor poor girl. I would take her and move schools maybe get her a tutor to help aswell.

No wonder she's not learning I imagine she's incredibly unhappy.

You hear these stories of relentless bullying and it goes to far. Someone from our area killed them self not so long ago due to bullying they saw no way out.

wingingit987 · 21/09/2021 21:16

To be honest I wouldn't even send her back until the school either sorts themselves out or your daughter starts a new school.

I can't believe in this day and age people still behave this way towards bullying. I would want the entire class reprimanded.

Bostonbullsmumma · 21/09/2021 21:59

Have you ask your DD what she wants?

GoWalkabout · 21/09/2021 22:15

Ask if the psychologist can assess for executive function skills and attention (not because any of what you describe is her fault, but because these are part of the learning picture I think)

LobsterNapkin · 21/09/2021 22:22

You also might consider home education, at least while you sort through options. At that age it is a little easier to combine it with your own work.

NeverForgetYourDreams · 21/09/2021 22:32

Does this school feed into a larger school next year with other primary schools?

My DS15 was left out in primary school. It broke my heart. When he got to senior school he found new people to talk to and has a handful of good mates in school now but he tends to only see them 'in school'. One of the bullies, because yes they were bullies, is at his school and in his form but they don't mix in the same circles and DS now refers to him as that idiot bully who is insecure himself (that finally sunk in that the bullies are actually the insecure ones hence why have to bully).

However the damage was done and he prefers to stay at home in the holidays and not meet up with anyone - I think he sees it as the norm that you don't do that as he was never invited to days at the beach etc in primary

I'm hoping college next year does the trick - a 'doing' course so they have to talk to each other

I've gone through life with a handful of good friends rather than a massive group - I would struggle to get enough for one of those massive hen parties for example. But I'm good. I've married a lovely man and I surround myself with positive people now and ignore the adult bullies (yes I was left out as a primary parent too because I worked...!).

Hugs to you and your daughter - we've been there x

Skysblue · 21/09/2021 22:34

Move her. This is a terrible school, th academics may be ok but the staff are doing nothing to stop the whole class bullying one child and another has already left the same class because of bullying? You need to look at it with fresh eys and accept that this is a BAD school.

These children will never change their minds. Thy will never see her in a different way. They sound awful.

Move her. Anywhere would be better.

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Mookie81 · 21/09/2021 22:45

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