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To not want to read the graphic details of James Bulger's abduction in a chain email?

122 replies

Bectheneck · 05/12/2007 11:10

And not only have it sent to me by my, usually sensible, sister but to have to listen to it being read out on air by some numpty local DJ this morning just because he'd received it via Facebook and today's 'Time Tunnel' year (music played from a particular year) was 1993 (the year the abduction happened). He gave no warning of the details it contained and how horrific they are.

Has anyone else received it? I don't have a copy any more as I deleted it straight away but it basically recaps on the James Bulger case but goes into graphic detail of what his abductors did to him. It then goes on to say that they are due to be released, given new identities and a new life in Australia and we should add our names and forward it on to people. At some point it said it will be sent as a petition to, I can't remember exactly, but presumably to keep them in prison for ever.

It's a chain email and I found it so distasteful to post such horrific details about the poor little lads last hours. There surely must be more appropriate ways to get the point across? Am I being unreasonable? Most people already know that he was taken, tortured and left on a railway line. Isn't that horrific enough? It just seemed so pointless and it's something I can't get out of my head now I've read it.

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smugmumofboys · 05/12/2007 12:04

Haven't read the whole thread as really want to avoid any details. TBH just reading that poor little boy's name makes me feel sick.That probably makes me a bit pathetic but there it is. Not having a go btw. I also received this email a few months back and deleted it straight away. It is beyond me why people would forward such things to others.

millie865 · 05/12/2007 12:21

I agree with WannaBe. I had that email some time ago from someone who I thought had more sense. I didn't know it was doing the rounds again. I hate chain emails at the best of times, as far as I am concerned this one was wrong in intent and needlessly graphic in content.

soopermum1 · 05/12/2007 12:52

i read the details in a newspaper article a couple of years ago and was absolutelt appauled, it was so horrible. but then, my friend told me they were teaching the kids at her high school (she's a teacher) about it. i don't know how much detail they went into, but i think it was about morality etc. i told her i ddin't think it was right, bearing in mind he was a small boy and the act was so horrific. couldn't they have picked the morality issues of an adult case?

cheechymunchy · 05/12/2007 12:56

I got it too, and deleted it without reading. I don't want to read the details of a sickening death of a boy my son's age.
Why is it all of a sudden all this stuff is flooding through Facebook? I also get children and cancer chain letters, "send this cheesy picture of angels to 10 people in the next 5 seconds otherwise you'll have bad luck for the rest of your life" etc.
It's all bull*i, designed to bother us.

Baffy · 05/12/2007 13:02

I got it too.

I was horrified. I didn't know all of those details. But more importantly, I didn't want to know.
It's played on my mind ever since.

I deleted it straight away.

Makes me so

ScottishMummy · 05/12/2007 13:06

deleted mine did not forward it. a measure of a liberal society is to provide therapeutic treatment and rehabilitation where needed, not mob justice.both boys (and they were just children) went to secure psychiatric rehabthe crime was appalling, but circulating an email about it is unhelpful.

sweetkitty · 05/12/2007 13:08

I got this e-mail from a good friend the other day, in 1993 I was just starting university had nothing to do with children etc although I know of the case I never knew the details, ignorance is bliss type of thing.

I read this e-mail and it horrified me and even a few days later I am still thinking about it, now I have a 3 year old it upsets me so much, I cannot believe what this poor boys mother goes through every day of her poor life.

I did not forward it on

elbarto · 05/12/2007 13:11

absoloutely disgusting - whoever started it and those who pass it on are sicko voyeurs.

hellsbells76 · 05/12/2007 15:47

i finally cracked after half a dozen of these appearing on my wall and changed my status to '*** is not into baying for the blood of two fucked up ten year olds and doesn't want any more copies of that petition thanks very much'

haven't received one since

quite shocked that good friends who i have a lot of respect for have thought it was ok to forward this sort of crap. and absolutely astonished at their inability to recognise that it's precisely this sort of mob mentality that means those boys need anonymity in the first place!!

lanismum · 05/12/2007 16:04

I got this, and the 1 about the girl with cancer, and about the 3 year old called chris, there really is no need, I have now removed the funwall application and ignore any emails saying I have got a message on my funwall

Hulababy · 05/12/2007 16:08

manismum - I got the one about the girl too, from same person (MNetter I think) - again deleted.

jojosmaman · 05/12/2007 16:14

I got it as well, deleted it as I have read it before on email and i had tried to erase the details from my memory, horrific. Why do people feel the need to drag it up, the abuse was dreadful, we questioned the parents, their upbringing, society, the law at the time, let the poor boy rest in peace now. Whether it is wrong or right that these boys have been released its done and no stupid petition (which as others have said is way out of date) is ever going to change it, especially one on a website as frivolous as facebook.

I'm just off to change my status to p*ssed off with facebook.

Jennster · 05/12/2007 16:19

Yup my insensitive colleague sent it to me while heavily pregnant. I'd read half of it before deleting it. REALLY upset me and DH got annoyed too.

IntergalacticWalrus · 05/12/2007 16:22

I had a fun wall for 3 mins, when I decied it was no longer fun

SpookyMadMummy · 05/12/2007 17:16

I seem to be getting it with alarming regularity through my facebook page, I got it two or three times from the same person. I deleted it straight away.
I don;t like to receive things like that. I get chain stuff which is fun/lighthearted and thats ok, but the really rude stuff and these chain emails about Jamie Bulger get deleted.

geekymummy · 05/12/2007 18:02

some apps on facebook (eg FunWall) send stuff randomly to other people's walls! I found this out when I went to a friend's page and saw a post allegedly from ME! Grr...

geekymummy · 05/12/2007 18:03

fun wall and super wall deleted

Chain emails are one of my pet peeves!

kerala · 05/12/2007 18:12

Why do people forward it on? Have received it twice now from different friends who both send it to lots of people. Admit it makes me think abit less of them for forwarding it round tbh.

Agree with wannabe.

Eliza2 · 05/12/2007 18:14

Chain letters are nasty. The worst one I had was from a friend who told me that something unpleasant would happen to me unless I forwarded it on to 20 people within an hour.

I delete all chain letters and never forward them onto anyone.

Also, for the record: all those emails promising your a bottle of champagne or anything similar if you forward an email on to friends are HOAXES. I know this because I did some research for an article I was going to write about chain letters but never got round to. You are also probably breaking your agreement with your ISP if you forward them on in a mass emailing.

Also--chain emails telling you that a sick child is trying to beat a world record; OR

A hospital wants you to donate one pound and ask your friends to send you a cheque for that amount, too. THEY DO NOT WANT CHEQUES FOR ONE POUND. I know this because I rang up the press office at Great Ormond Street to check.

Delete or bin them all.

jofeb04 · 05/12/2007 18:16

Totally agree with you.

Eliza2 · 05/12/2007 18:18

Just to make it clear--I don't mean funny chain letters (though I find 90% of those a pain in the butt) but the ones that tell you you have to forward them on or you'll have bad luck.

I deleted one like that two years ago, despite the threat that we'd have terrible bad luck. Three things happened within six months: I got my first book deal and my husband got a new job and we were given some money. So don't be superstitious about pushing that delete key.

Sorry to do this public information stunt but I get so cross about people being frightened into sending these things on.

turquoise · 05/12/2007 18:23

These emails really piss me off. I was sent it in a mass email from a friend who is forever sending bloody chain stuff, and deleted it immediately.
Was really impressed to receive this as a 'reply all' later though, from one of the others on the list:

I wanted to respond to the petition that you forwarded me. The murder of Jamie Bulger was AWFUL, HORRIFIC and WRONG but I have to tell you that I don't agree with this petition. ... I wouldn't sign the petition and I want to tell you why. It is my belief that those two 10 year old boys were not born "evil" (as they were dubbed by the British press, politicians, and public alike). I think labeling them evil is simplistic and stops people thinking about the bigger picture. It stops people thinking about the context in which those two boys developed and formulated their views of themselves, their caregivers and the world around them. It is my understanding (based solely on what I've read) that they spent the first ten years of their life growing up in a context which fostered violence and cruelty (alcoholic parents, domestic violence, physical and sexual abuse etc.). Now CLEARLY not every child that has endured child abuse goes on to abuse, torture and kill toddlers. BUT being exposed to those things certainly increases the RISK the child perpetrate such acts. For example, a national randomized study conducted in America found that male children exposed to domestic violence during their childhood were 1000% more likely to perpetrate domestic violenceas adults than male children who were not exposed to domestic violence during their childhood (see the work of Murray Strauss). I really wonder if these two boys would have engaged in such horrific acts if they had grown up in loving, kind, supportive homes.... NO (again, just my opinion). The other issue that sprang to mind when I read this petition was this: It is my understanding that these two boys have been evaluated by psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, educators etc. and have been deemed to be fit for release (i.e., no longer a danger to society). They have spent over half their lives in removed from their violent, abusive homes and under the care of mental health professionals. If you believe that people are born evil and can never change then I can understand how the release of these boys from prison and their relocation to Australia is a scary, unjust and threatening thing. If, however, you believe that children are born into this world with healthy instincts (which then get beaten out of them at the hands of abusive caretakers) and you believe that with the right care and support MOST people can make positive changes - i.e., you believe in rehabilitation - then the fact that they are released from prison and relocating seems a little less unjust. They have served their time in prison - the time that a court of law determined was a suitable punishment for them.My heart bleeds for Jamie Bulger and his family. The crimes these boys committed were awful. But labeling them evil, locking them up and throwing away the key will not bring that baby back and MORE IMPORTANTLY it won't prevent similar things from happening in the future. It is my belief that if we want to prevent children from violent deaths, the place to start is with ensuring that people who give birth to babies are actually capable of caring for them....I am yet to read about a child from a loving, stable, drug-free, caring home who goes out and abuses, tortures and/or murders another child. These are all just my opinions, but since you forwarded this to me I felt an urge to respond.

(I have deleted a couple of sentences, for the writer's anonymity. Good for her writing it, made me feel guilty for just having deleted - the people who forward this shit need someone to make them think occasionally.)

ginnedupumpkin · 05/12/2007 18:26

I got that one too, from somebody I know well who has 2 sons and would never in a million years have sent that to another Mum.
I think geekymummy is right.

Quadrophenia · 05/12/2007 18:28

I have deleted my superwall and funwall from facebook, these chain emails really do my nut in.

Unfitmother · 05/12/2007 18:33

That sounds awful, I'm glad I've not had it but tend to delete spam straight away. Wish more people would stop forwarding crap!

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