To think faith schools should be forced to change their application process?

[storminborehamwood]

Most people accept that you can't discriminate against someone for their religion. So why can faith schools do it when it comes to kids getting a place?

AIBU to think state-funded faith schools should be forced to remove religious criteria from applications?

I know state-funded faith schools get extra funding from religion and that supposedly justifies giving priority to kids with religious ties.

I just can't understand why it's illegal to mark someone down for a job application based on their religion, but it's okay to do it for a school application.

@SunIsBehindGreySky

My guess is that those left in the church will not accept that God makes mistakes and will not accept that Jesus lied about the lifestyle he recommended as James Martin wants. What will it achieve a group of non genuine people delighted they destroyed it and plunder it for it's earth riches is my guess.

Meanwhile those who had a genuine love for Christ will have to go elsewhere as they even took the extraordinary away from us.

Don't really understand what you are talking about

Don't really understand what you are talking about

You must not want to understand. Apparently.

I totally never get the Mn hated of faith schools. Because they are funded and thus you pay for them. Many of us pay for services we don't use. I don't get a free pensioners bus pass or use a gum clinic either . There are lots of grammars in many counties.

You resent the catholic's, Jewish and CofE schools. You don't want your child given all that religious teaching, so it's not that you really want your child there. You just resent the exclusion, and the fact you are paying for it?

@Cutabove

Don't really understand what you are talking about

You must not want to understand. Apparently.

Err okay

I didn't want my children at a cofe primary school but didn't have any choice! The nearest community school was 20 miles away and even then we wouldn't have got in on the distance criteria. Rurally, there are only cofe primary schools, luckily ours wasn't strict on indoctrination.

What's 'not fair' about faith education is that in a town where the faith school underperforms, the the faith children can get into the community school if they want to but it doesn't work the other way. So faith children have two preferences, non-faith children have one.

You just resent the exclusion, and the fact you are paying for it?

They want to be allowed in and then disband it

@mustlovegin

You just resent the exclusion, and the fact you are paying for it?

They want to be allowed in and then disband it

Don't remember anyone saying that.

What's 'not fair' about faith education is that in a town where the faith school underperforms, the the faith children can get into the community school if they want to but it doesn't work the other way. So faith children have two preferences, non-faith children have one.

Exactly.

Gin:
"They want to be allowed in and then disband it"

No. I don't think they do want in.

I do still believe it is wrong to use religion as a factor in deciding whether a child gets a place in a particular state school or not, but this thread has given me a better understanding why people support faith schools.Thank you to posters who've given opposing views to mine in a civil way and broadened my understanding.

I don't think they do want in

Perhaps my opinion on this is being clouded by the tone of the OP and those with a similar mindset. Arguing about forcing religious schools to change entry criteria, drawing incorrect parallelisms with Equality legislation to secure consensus and then playing the sympathy card, saying how upset a child would be because he cannot attend the same school as a friend and missing out on 'experiences' because there's too much focus on Christmas and Easter

I don't know why any religious school should have to prioritise an application from people displaying such disruptive, pushy and antagonistic attitudes over others who do share the same religion or are at least respectful and tolerant of it (as many indeed are)

I don't intend to put the OP on the spot, but the general attitude displayed on this issue is quite distressing

They really should. Get rid of compulsory worship too.

It's the compulsory christianity in non-faith schools that pisses me off.

Do you mean the assemblies of a 'broadly Christian' nature? It's hard to interpret 'broadly' as fundamentalist or pushy. More likely it's very general stuff about kindness, looking after the Earth, perseverance, community, tolerance or appreciating good things such as the harvest. Often there isn't even any mention of a deity. Obviously some schools are stronger on the faith side, but in most places religion is diluted to homeopathic levels.