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I know it's cheeky but should I just go for it?

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10stepsback · 10/09/2021 12:32

I've found myself in a really crappy situation but I'll try to make it short and sweet. I, along with my daughter have been in our current rental for the last 8 years. I started dating my partner nearly 4 years ago and he lives just up the road from me, mortgage free. We both have children from previous relationships, my daughter who is 18 and off to uni this week and his daughter who is 15, still in school. His wife passed away 6 years ago. His daughter has struggled, but we became incredibly close quite quickly. She is also close to my daughter and they see each other as sisters. I have never tried to replace her mum and I made it clear from the beginning that I would not get involved in their arguments or try to discipline her. Ex really struggles to set boundaries and she speaks to him like rubbish most of the time. She has a lot of anger issues I feel and they argue a lot which can make the atmosphere sometimes unbearable.
He has tried to arrange counselling multiple times but she isn't interested.

Recently my landlord made me aware that he was thinking of selling up in the next few months. For a while I have wondered where our relationship was heading so we both decided to have a talk about the next steps, with the most obvious one being to move in together, especially since I'm paying nearly £600 a month in rental fees even though I spend most of my time at his house. He agreed that he wanted me to move in and live with them. We sat his daughter down to have a chat and to make sure she was okay with it. She's had a rough start to life and we agreed that we wouldn't do it if she wasn't happy with the idea. Initially she was over the moon and said she couldn't wait for me to move in, that she couldn't wait to have another girl around the house to do girly things, have pamper and movie nights etc. She is also extremely unhappy with her weight (as am I) and we both said that we would exercise together and make healthy meals. It was going to be our little activity that didn't involve her dad. Just us girls. At no point did she us tell or make us feel that she wasn't comfortable or happy with the idea, until this week, a week before I am due to move out of my current place.

It has come to light that she now doesn't want me to move in and is really unhappy with the idea. She told her dad on Wednesday night that if I come she will move in with her auntie. This isn't the impression she gave us when we spoke to her a month ago. The last few weeks she has been excited and has even helped me move boxes in. He hasn't said anything or tried to explain to her that it is too late for her to change her mind. I suspect that she has realised at the last minute that this is all real and actually going to happen and it’s scared her. Perhaps it was foolish of us to believe that she was happy with the idea but we had talked about it in depth several times before making the decision and then over these last few weeks she seemed so excited for me to come. Even though we agreed that we wouldn’t do it if she was unhappy, it is a slightly different situation now as I’m suppose to be moving out next Friday.

Initially my landlord said he would give me 6 months to find somewhere else before putting the house up for sale, however I gave him notice straight away (after having agreed with partner to move in with them) so he put it on the market immediately. Estate agent believes it will sell quickly as there has already been quite a few viewings. Luckily landlord has said I can stay for another month, and then we will take it week by week until the house sells or if I find somewhere else. I haven’t spoken to my partner since yesterday morning after he decided to send me links to a property in the next town (a 1 bed flat above a youth hostel). This was the first I’d heard from after he told me that his daughter didn’t want me to move in. He has kindly told me he will loan me the money for a deposit on another rental if needs be. No apology or any concerns for my well-being, he’s just carried on as normal. Rentals don’t come up that often in this area and if they do, they are normally priced at around £700+pcm which I can’t afford. I work full time but can only stretch to around £600 which I was currently pay. I also have a dog that we’ve had since he was a puppy and I’m not prepared to give him up. My daughter absolutely adores him and would be so heartbroken. I was lucky that my landlord didn’t mind pets but not many others feel the same way as it is advertised on their websites.
Partner has offered to take the dog if needs be (so he’ll have my dog, but not me. Lovely) but hopefully it won’t come to that. I do have friends and family that could take him if I can’t find a rental that accepts pets. Buying a property is not possible unfortunately.

Our relationship is over, although I’m not sure he is aware of that and thinks we will be carrying on as normal. I am absolutely heartbroken as I still love him but I just feel so hurt and I still can’t believe he could do this to me. My daughter is off to Uni tomorrow so I’m trying my best to hold it all together so she can enjoy her last couple of days at home before leaving. I don’t want her to see me upset but she is equally hurt by what they’ve done. We’ve sold a lot of our furniture and packed our lives up ready to move next week. It is such a shit show and I will never rely on a man ever again after this. I have seen a couple of rentals within the area, which have been on Rightmove for a while now. They are out my price range by around a £100 a month. Would I be unreasonable to phone the estate agent up and explain my situation and see if the landlord will consider reducing the rent? If the property has been sitting there empty for months and they are desperate for the income, do you think they might consider it? I feel cheeky for even asking but if you don’t ask you don’t get I suppose! What do I have to lose at this point, right?

If you’ve managed to read the whole post, thank you. Please be nice, I'm feeling pretty fragile and stressed at the moment.

OP posts:
GoWalkabout · 10/09/2021 21:51

This poor child will now blame herself for the break up of the relationship and her loss of another support figure.

Farfalle88 · 10/09/2021 21:57

@Opalfeet

Sorry if it's been said already, but are you sure it's his daughter that changed her mind?
I have to say those were my thoughts too. He seems very willing to lose this relationship and the chance of having the woman he loves move in . It doesn’t add up really.
TheChiefJo · 10/09/2021 21:59

@GoWalkabout

This poor child will now blame herself for the break up of the relationship and her loss of another support figure.
Not if her DF is a proper grown up and explains that the split is an adult decision made by him and OP.
Bobsyer · 10/09/2021 22:01

Sorry OP, a man moving in with a female single parent under these circumstances would be called a cocklodger

No he wouldn’t Confused that’s not what cocklodger means at all.

FortunesFave · 10/09/2021 22:03

No matter what, you've been living alone all this time and you can now have a new start without this disingenuous person in your life ...you'll be fine as you say.

But it IS upsetting. 4 years together isn't a small amount and he's buggered you around terribly.

EspressoDoubleShot · 10/09/2021 22:06

He’s the source of the malaise not the @15yo of he wanted you,he’d have you there
It’s telling he hasn’t staged an intervention, he’s leaving you to it, that speaks volumes

jessycake · 10/09/2021 22:13

Fingers crossed you find something , what a shitty situation x

GuerillaFood · 10/09/2021 22:23

The 15yo has done nothing wrong. She is 15.

Your "D"P has made a huge fuck up. I'm not surprised that you don't want to be with him anymore. So sorry this is happening but at least you found out what he's really liked before you fully moved in.

Absolutely put affordable offers in on flats you like. Do it for every single one you find that's suitable. They often list stuff for a wee bit more than they are willing to accept. You have nothing to lose.

10stepsback · 10/09/2021 22:50

Evening all... been super busy with packing and will be heading to bed soon. Early start tomorrow...

I'm really struggling to understand some posters responses as I thought I'd been clear in my previous posts, but perhaps not so I will explain one more time and hopefully this will be sufficient. Initially we had all sat down together and spoke about the idea of me moving in, but we made it clear from the beginning that if she wasn't happy with the idea then that would be fine too. We didn't expect her to give us an answer on the spot and we certainly didn't bribe her with pamper nights or sweets treats like some posters have suggested Confused. She was actually the one who brought up the movie nights and being excited to do girly things. I have an exercise bike in my current place and she said "can you bring it with you?" and after that we got chatting about exercising together and making healthy meals. She was so so excited for me to move in. My daughter would have had the spare room and we would have made it nice and cosy for her for when she comes back on the weekends from Uni. I did not give notice until 3 weeks after we had spoken to her and she had plenty of time to speak to her dad in private when I wasn't in the house and tell him if she wasn't happy and believe me, she is a typical teenager who has no problem letting people know if she is unhappy about something...

My landlord was more than happy to give me 6 months notice before putting the house up for sale, however because I gave notice (after we all agreed that I would move in) he immediately put the house on the market. We live in a popular sea side town and the market here is crazy. There are 6 viewings alone this weekend and the agent is confident it will sell soon. Lots of families with young kids interested. Landlord has given me another month and then we will take it week by week until the house sells or the sale completes. I know the process is taking longer here due to covid so hopefully that will give me some more time at least. I understand I would have had to find another rental any way if his daughter hadn't agreed but at least I would have had 6 months to find somewhere else, not 1 or 2. It's a huge difference and has caused me so much stress and worry.

To the poster who said I was needy, I'm honestly astounded by that assumption. I don't know where in my post you get that from. I've raised my daughter solely for the last 13 years of her life. Worked my arse off in a full time job to try and keep a roof over our heads and the bills paid all these years. I never had time to date or meet anyone when she was growing up. It's only as she got older that I met someone and was able to have a relationship with my current partner (or shall I say my ex). Was I wrong for hoping that our relationship would progress to the next step after 4 years together? That I wanted to live with not only him, but his daughter as well, as I do care about her very much. It's not a case of me sending my daughter off to Uni, being done with parenting and wanting to move in with him and shove his daughter in a corner and I certainly don't want to sponge off him either. I have my own money! I wanted us to be a family. Do I not deserve to be loved or to be upset that my partner doesn't seem to care that he's put me in this position?

We haven't spoken very much at all since this happened. He came over earlier this afternoon to say goodbye to DD and wish her good luck with Uni. He started to cry before and said it was because he was sad that DD is leaving but I'm not entirely sure I believe him. I think he knows deep down the relationship is over now and there is no going back. I'm not stringing him along on purpose, I just really don't have the energy or time this week to discuss everything. I need to concentrate on getting my daughter settled in Uni and making sure she is happy and comfortable in her own new home.
As I said he is carrying on as normal and even asked me if I wanted to go to the cinema one evening next week Hmm I said "sorry I'm too busy now looking for a new home" and he just looked at me and didn't say anything.

I'm absolutely exhausted with it all and I need to try and get a good nights sleep... I hope you all have a lovely evening. I'll try and keep you updated in regards to the house situation... thanks all.

OP posts:
10stepsback · 10/09/2021 22:53

I don't want it to come across that I'm blaming his daughter for this situation because I'm not. I wanted to give you all a clear description of what's happened. She had every opportunity to be honest with her dad and tell him if she wasn't happy, but, she is only 15 and he is the adult here. I agree we should have never have given her so much control over the situation and I see that now. He is the one who has handled this situation terribly and he's hurt me very much.

OP posts:
EspressoDoubleShot · 10/09/2021 22:55

Your problem is your op. He’s not stepped up to assist he doesn’t want to
He’s not staged any intervention. He’s yapping about cinema whilst you’re homeless
I maintain this is predominantly about him not the 15yo girl

EspressoDoubleShot · 10/09/2021 22:56

Your dp,not your op

3luckystars · 10/09/2021 22:56

What a doughnut. No I do not want to go to the cinema because you have left me high and dry!!

I still think he will be totally shocked when you break up with him. I hope he comes to his senses and makes an enormous apology and you live happily ever after!

Farfalle88 · 10/09/2021 22:59

I’m not sure why you aren’t telling him it’s over. You seem to be leaving it hanging. Just tell him it’s over and be happy in your new life. Hope you find someone who deserves you. He certainly doesn’t.

Fere · 10/09/2021 23:02

My friend who was in despair for not being able to rent anything for herself and her 2 dogs said that once she go to meet a landlord it was much easier to get the positive answers for moving in with her pets.
So maybe go to view something and ask for the landlord and not the Agent to show you around?
That's what helped my friend.

toocold54 · 10/09/2021 23:22

Initially we had all sat down together and spoke about the idea of me moving in, but we made it clear from the beginning that if she wasn't happy with the idea then that would be fine too.

Obviously a conversation with just him and her would have been better as she may have just got caught up in the excitement without thinking of the long term implications but I think that’s irrelevant now.
She could genuinely not want and never wanted you to live there or she could be just having a little wobble.

The biggest issue is the fact that he instantly said you can’t move in without even giving her a couple of days to think about it and discuss it with him.
And it seems like you both haven’t really had a conversation with each other.
I know you have a lot on your plate but I think you need to sit him down and explain your side - that you feel you can’t carry on the relationship now.
Are you hoping the daughter changes her mind which is why you’ve not told him it’s over yet?

QueenBee52 · 10/09/2021 23:50

Credit to You OP... you have handled this with dignity and strength.. all whilst receiving this shock news the day before your DD leaves for Uni..

You do what you need to do to get through this and I hope find another Rental soon...

I would stop engaging with comments that have clearly not read the Thread before posting the same incorrect assumptions over and over .. grey rock

Good luck for your DD tomorrow 🌸💕

BoredZelda · 10/09/2021 23:56

It is never cheeky to ask for a discount where you know something isn’t selling at a price.

TryingtobePrepared · 11/09/2021 00:03

So sorry about your situation. But just wanted to say I'm a landlord and I've take a similar drop on the rent, I've put it on the rental market at the top end of what I'd like and taken less. I've even offered to drop a little to someone who kept looking but was struggling to get the deposit together, he had fab references and a really good financial record which had clearly been affected by covid. I have never been offended by someone asking for a reduction. I'd be really happy to get a solid reliable long term tenant, voids are expensive. Give it a go

Tilltheend99 · 11/09/2021 00:35

This is a terrible situation and I’m sorry that you are effectively homeless. Is it possible that the daughters body image issues are bigger then you realised? Could she have been being polite when seemingly enthusiastic about exercising and cooking healthy food with you? Possibly the idea of constant day to day scrutiny no matter how well meaning was what scared her off. Not sure what your partner was playing at with his poor handling of this whole thing but I think you might have been able to sort things out with the daughter with a bit of reassurance. Hope you find a new home soon.

Recessed · 11/09/2021 00:42

You sound very lovely, I'm sorry this hasn't worked out but I wish you a better and brighter future Flowers

Mamanyt · 11/09/2021 00:43

Call the estate agent. Ask. Explain that you are only moving because your landlord is selling up, and that you have been a good tenant for 8 years. Sometimes that, alone, is enough to sway an owner. They'd much rather have someone who settles in and pays rent on time than a series of deadbeats.

And best of luck to you. I'm willing to bet that your ex-partner's daughter ends up miserable when she realizes that you are out of the picture. 15-year-old girls are notorious for running hot and cold on almost everything, switching postions sometimes daily.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 11/09/2021 00:54

You sound very sensible, OP, so you have a good chance of sorting your life out successfully. You’re kind and generous and you deserve better than being messed around by XP and his daughter. I hope things soon start going your way. Xx

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 11/09/2021 01:14

💐

Holskey · 11/09/2021 01:51

I've no idea how anyone can say you're needy after being a single parent for so many years and maintaining your independence during a relationship of 4 years Confused I also think you've been very kind, considerate and patient with the daughter. What more could you have done? So please ignore mean comments that make no sense. Of course you're upset about your partner letting you down enormously and being so unfazed by it that he asks you to the cinema! And having to find a home at such short notice is very stressful.

Good luck to you and keep us updated. I'm invested Flowers

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