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To be sick of mens road rage and men being unable to contain their anger

162 replies

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 09:22

A man was tailgating me and gesticulating this morning because he wanted to force me to overtake a child who was cycling - on a busy road with bollards where there wasn't room. I'm so sick of men not being able to manage their anger, and thinking they are entitled to be so aggressive and rude.

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LaBellina · 08/09/2021 12:46

Yes it’s always men behaving like this.
(on a side note : the worst and most entitled behavior I have encountered on planes from other passengers, it was always men too. For some reason usually white and often middle aged. Something about them being in a small space makes them territorial and agressive for some reason I think).
I would advice any female driver to get a dashcam, and the moment some idiot threatens you, film him and report him to the police. That’s the only legal way these fuckers learn to behave towards us.
I also have some illegal ideas but I think those won’t be allowed to share here.

LaBellina · 08/09/2021 12:48

@Deadringer

For a lot of men, unless you are servicing one of their needs, women are just a fucking nuisance.
Unfortunately I think never has a truer word been spoken. Misogyny at its core.
McPancreas · 08/09/2021 12:50

For some driving a car is literally the only thing they have real control over in life, combine that with widespread low level mental illness in society andyou end up with some of the insane/dangerous behaviour we all see everyday on the roads.

IWillWashTheGreenWillow · 08/09/2021 12:52

It is satisfying when their arseholery catches them out. Last summer, I was tailgated and beeped at in a residential area by a Porche that wanted to come past me despite my travelling at the speed limit with no space for overtaking. He eventually cut me up on a roundabout, just before the speed limit changed to 50, and zoomed off into the distance. 5 minutes later, I passed him (at 50!) having a discussion with a policeman at the side of the road 😁.

LimitIsUp · 08/09/2021 12:53

@SprayedWithDettol

If you can afford it, get front and rear cameras for your car.

I have them, and whilst I won’t change my behaviour and driving, to placate arseholes, I know that if they deliberately drive dangerously and cause an accident, I will have evidence.

Same here. Invaluable peace of mind
BuntyCarmichael · 08/09/2021 12:58

Rocaille if it wasn't safe to overtake or she passed a cyclist too close then she deserved a bollocking. My husband has been knocked off his bike twice by idiots overtaking too close, luckily there were plenty of witnesses.

Tootsey11 · 08/09/2021 12:59

Just get a camera front and rear. Got them for sons car for 30 quid of amazon. Then if necessary report any assholes to the police with your evidence.

MsTSwift · 08/09/2021 13:02

Cyclists also get the abuse. One (elderly white man in jag) literally tried to drive Dh off the road! Dh got his number plate and he got a visit from the police. Sadly not taken further but hope would shake him up

MsTSwift · 08/09/2021 13:02

One hopes this extreme anger leads to heart attacks and an early grave. Well deserved.

Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 13:02

@dunkaccino

I was in the car with my dad on the motorway, my dad was driving, we were on the outside lane, going the speed limit, there was no space for us to pull in so we stayed in that lane,

And you wonder why the other road users were angry???? Confused

Would you have rather we went at a speed over the legal limit, putting both us and other drivers in danger all because the person behind us wanted to go faster? What would you have done? Also my dad was a police officer, unless he is driving a police car to an emergency he isn't going to speed, sorry if this annoys you but I'm sure he's seen enough unfortunate deaths due to speeding.
TheSockMonster · 08/09/2021 13:04

@McPancreas

For some driving a car is literally the only thing they have real control over in life, combine that with widespread low level mental illness in society andyou end up with some of the insane/dangerous behaviour we all see everyday on the roads.
I think this is very true
TabbyStar · 08/09/2021 13:10

Man overtakes me and while alongside shouts through the open window that I'm a fucking cunt holding him up, then he pulls in front, suddenly brakes so I have to stop before zooming off and away. No way would he have done that to a man.

Different prompt (he was tailgating me but there was a queue of traffic so I couldn't go any faster) but I had a man do exactly this manoeuvre a few weeks ago. He stopped driving like a twat though when DD pulled out her phone and held it up to the windscreen clearly filming him. He arrived at his destination, ooh about 30 seconds before me. I did have to drive past my house though as I didn't want him to know where I live.

penguin23 · 08/09/2021 13:17

I was driving home from college in rush hour, a white van pulled out in front of me so close I had to do an emergency stop. I had such a fright and obviously too focussed on not hitting him that I didn't have time to beep the horn or do anything else. I followed him up the road and he pulled into a lay-by, waited for me to go past to pull back out after me. He followed me all the way home (20 minutes it took until I reached home), the whole time tail gaiting and shouting. I phoned my dad who was waiting to jump out of the house as soon as we pulled into the road. The van pulled up behind where I parked to block me in ready to start on me, when my dad surprised him by yelling outside his window. He nearly ran my dad over trying to reverse and speed away as quick as he could.

I was only 22 and this man was at least over 50. Police weren't one bit interested. It was terrifying, and only provoked by my presence on the road, I'd done nothing wrong or even had a go at him. I don't know what goes through their minds when behaving like this. I dread to think what would have happened if my dad wasn't there :(

Beautiful3 · 08/09/2021 13:19

Yep. I had a guy behind me, this morning. Full of rage beeping his horn at me, because he wanted me to pull out of a side road into heavy traffic?!! Sorry sir for making you wait a few minutes, because I don't want to crash into other cars, and kill people 🙄

RoughAsFuck · 08/09/2021 13:20

The only accident I have ever had in 35 years driving was a woman with road rage.
I was coming around a roundabout, my lane free running for straight ahead, hers standstill to turn left. I get halfway alongside and she pulled out of the queue, deciding to go straight on instead. I braked hard and beeped at the same time, unsure how she missed me that time.

My dash cam then shows her exiting the roundabout and slamming on the brakes whilst sticking 2 fingers up at me. I hit her up the rear (she'd closed my braking gap and I was slowing to regain it).
The fact that there were witnesses at the bus stop who gave statements as well as my dash cam showing there was nothing in front of her and her aggression meant I argued and got 50/50. I had protected no claims so it didn't end up costing me anything.

Best of it? She was heavily pregnant.

sillysmiles · 08/09/2021 13:23

@Keke94LND

Oh I just remembered too, a couple months ago, I was in the car with my dad on the motorway, my dad was driving, we were on the outside lane, going the speed limit, there was no space for us to pull in so we stayed in that lane, a man behind us was driving right up our backside, with his hand pressed against his horn! 'Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep beep beep beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep' I mean wtf, eventually we moved lanes, and he sped off at 100 miles an hour
You do realise you were in the wrong here? The outside lane is for over taking. Yes his behaviour was unacceptable but so was your driving style.

I drive a lot on multi lane roads and this is so frustrating.

TheSockMonster · 08/09/2021 13:27

They were overtaking.

From the Highway Code…

Rule 264

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past.

The key part being “as soon as you are safely past” which clearly they were not.

No one should have to (a) exceed the speed limit or (b) perform an unsafe cutting in manoeuvre in order to facilitate your wish to speed.

MsTSwift · 08/09/2021 13:29

I got beeped at sworn at and eye rolled for stopping at a zebra crossing in an urban area to allow pedestrians to cross 🙄🙄. What did he want me to do plough them down so he gets to his destination 30 seconds sooner? Knobs the lot of them.

Wheresmybiscuit3 · 08/09/2021 13:30

It’s definitely getting worse recently but with both sexes I feel.

Grenlei · 08/09/2021 13:36

@Keke94LND you should only be in the outside lane of the motorway for overtaking slower vehicles in the adjacent lane, and then move back over as soon as you have overtaken that vehicle or vehicles. No one should be sitting in the outside lane for any length of time if driving correctly.

If there was no room to pull back into the lane it suggests your dad was travelling at the same/ similar speed as the cars in that lane, and rather begs the question of why he moved into the outside lane in the first place. In my experience it's pretty rare for cars other than those in the nearside lane to be travelling below the speed limit so if you're travelling at 70 you shouldn't be needing to go into the outside lane to overtake anyway.

On a motorway if you don't want to be beeped, you should keep left :)

FaceForRadio1973 · 08/09/2021 13:38

Unfortunately, if you are stuck with a tw@t behind you on the road, they will give you abuse whether you are a man, woman, or trans identifying as a Mars bar - Whatever....

As for saying that suggesting that men don't need to worry about violence from road rage, I'm sorry, but I am shit scared of taking a major beating, or a knifing just as much as anybody else...

I wonder if, has been suggested that it's the car itself, and not the driver that's the target. How dare my little hatchback be in front of someone important enough to drive a SUV?

exiledfromcornwall · 08/09/2021 13:38

@Deadringer

For a lot of men, unless you are servicing one of their needs, women are just a fucking nuisance.
Sums it up beautifully.
Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 13:42

[quote Grenlei]@Keke94LND you should only be in the outside lane of the motorway for overtaking slower vehicles in the adjacent lane, and then move back over as soon as you have overtaken that vehicle or vehicles. No one should be sitting in the outside lane for any length of time if driving correctly.

If there was no room to pull back into the lane it suggests your dad was travelling at the same/ similar speed as the cars in that lane, and rather begs the question of why he moved into the outside lane in the first place. In my experience it's pretty rare for cars other than those in the nearside lane to be travelling below the speed limit so if you're travelling at 70 you shouldn't be needing to go into the outside lane to overtake anyway.

On a motorway if you don't want to be beeped, you should keep left :)[/quote]
There was a car going slow in one lane, we moved to overtake it (instead of honking our brains out at it) we then weren't able to move back in, there was also a car in front of us, who also wasn't able to move back in, once they did, we were also able to :) :) :) :)

BadgeronaMoped · 08/09/2021 13:49

There are some utter psychos out there on the roads, I've heard so many awful stories. My dad always told me never to engage and especially not to rile them up further (by driving slower/braking suddenly).

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 13:50

As for saying that suggesting that men don't need to worry about violence from road rage, I'm sorry, but I am shit scared of taking a major beating, or a knifing just as much as anybody else...

I might have missed it on the thread but I don't think anyone has suggested this? But it was said that people aren't threatened by violence from women. The beating/knifings etc which you are understandably worried could occur. It's men that are going around angry, even where the victims are men.

We should all, women and the remaining (ie most) men who don't act like this, be thinking about what is going on here and why it occurs. Mens angry outbursts are too often ignored and some men obviously think they are quite entitled to go round acting like this.

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