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To be sick of mens road rage and men being unable to contain their anger

162 replies

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 09:22

A man was tailgating me and gesticulating this morning because he wanted to force me to overtake a child who was cycling - on a busy road with bollards where there wasn't room. I'm so sick of men not being able to manage their anger, and thinking they are entitled to be so aggressive and rude.

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bg21 · 08/09/2021 10:23

where i live its mostly women driving massive cars they actually can't drive ! all for show but really dangerous , these women need to stick to buses and get off the road

CaptSkippy · 08/09/2021 10:24

#NAMALT (Not all Men Are like That)

However, all men benefit from this aggressive behavior in some men. Because we women won't know which men will lose their shit at what time, we are therefore wary of all men.

Neonplant · 08/09/2021 10:24

Yep I get this. I see so much road rage and aggressive driving it's almost always men. I wonder how many accidents and the resulting use of emergency services they are responsible for.

My dash cam with rear facing as well (yet to be fitted Blush) was 25 to 35 pounds on amazon. I bought it after I was very sadly close to an accident / road rage incident where someone died. While I was waiting for hours when the road was closed the police went car to car asking if anyone had a dash cam. I didn't but bought one that day.

It has also made me cautious about responding to road rage, you never know how someone is going to act. So although I don't think as women we should just accept when men ar aggressive on the road. It's better to keep yourself safe by just letting them fuck off at the earliest opportunity.

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 10:27

We both agreed that for some reason middle-aged men in those mirrored wraparound sunglasses are the worst. Grin This was a middle aged man, although not in those particular shades but I know the type you mean.

I'm in London, and not generally seeing women in 4 x 4s where I live, it seems to be middle aged white men on the whole who go round enraged and entitled.

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Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 10:29

My worst I’ve had was the man who did an emergency stop on the m25 in front of me. Shock

However, all men benefit from this aggressive behavior in some men. Because we women won't know which men will lose their shit at what time, we are therefore wary of all men.
True.

Going to look into getting dashcams

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MsTSwift · 08/09/2021 10:29

Absolutely. I was trying to get into a tiny space at the post office. Man waiting shouting and swearing at me. Eventually I gave up and let him have the space. He couldn’t park in it either and whizzed off in a squeal of tyres. Oh how I laughed!

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 10:29

Yes I agree Neonplant it's too dangerous to confront these people.

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HarryLimeFoxtrot · 08/09/2021 10:31

It’s always men who tailgate me. Especially where the A6 goes through a 30mph zone. They’re constantly trying to drive in my boot. I always think they should actually thank me - there are average speed check cameras on that stretch of road, and by driving at 30mph I’m stopping them from getting points on their license.

TheSockMonster · 08/09/2021 10:34

I always think it’s terribly ironic how women are labelled as being over emotional whereas in day to day life it’s far more likely to be men whose behaviour is ruled by their emotions. The difference is we tend to give men the courtesy of naming their actual emotions (I.e. anger, frustration, etc)

I work in a testosterone fuelled environment where such outbursts from men tend to get excused as anger. Eg. Bob got very angry in the Friday meeting about the delays with phase 2. I have started relabelling the behaviour as ‘emotional’. Eg. Bob got very emotional in the Friday meeting…

No one has commented on it, but it’s keeping me amused.

Waitingforthecowstocomehome · 08/09/2021 10:36

It’s not just men. Women can be as aggressive behind the wheel.

MurielSpriggs · 08/09/2021 10:37

@Poetrypatty

A man was tailgating me and gesticulating this morning because he wanted to force me to overtake a child who was cycling - on a busy road with bollards where there wasn't room. I'm so sick of men not being able to manage their anger, and thinking they are entitled to be so aggressive and rude.
This is a ridiculous generalisation, which makes as much sense as complaining that women can't drive properly and are a danger to other road users Hmm
Porridgealert · 08/09/2021 10:37

"women have been responsible for a lot of the near misses I have had - failing to give way to the right at a roundabout,"

It pains me to say it but...women and roundabouts are a dire combination. They just don't seem to understand who has right of way. I think their hesitancy is responsible for just as many accidents as aggressive drivers.

XelaM · 08/09/2021 10:39

I hate cyclists men 🚴‍♀️ rude, aggressive, entitled and often don't follow the rules of the road!!

Sirzy · 08/09/2021 10:40

There are idiotic men and women on the roads. I just now assume that everyone else is an arsehole and just control my driving.

My DP is a HGV driver and his accident last year was caused by an aggressive impatient woman who cut in front of him to get to her junction. Thankfully he had dash cams

TangMustang · 08/09/2021 10:40

Similar situations daily for me a few years ago when I traveled to work on NSL and fast A roads.

I decided to buy a dash cam and ordered ordered a couple of ‘Camera on board’ stickers separately.

The stickers came first so I stuck one on the rear window. Massive improvement immediately. The dash cam is still in a box in a drawer Grin I never got around to fitting it as I never had anything other than the odd rare arsehole moment again. Grin

5zeds · 08/09/2021 10:42

You were driving and someone drove too close to you, his “rage” and “trying to force you to overtake” are your interpretation of his behaviour. Ignore what you think he is feeling and drive as you feel is sensible. None of this is your problem.

Bigassbeebuzzbuzz · 08/09/2021 10:43

I had this yesterday dual carriage way I was in left hand lane in a line of about 4 cars overtaking 4/5 bigger vehicles. My turning was coming up so after I had past the vehicles in the left hand lane I indicated and pulled over into the left lane. I was going about 65mph not actively breaking but not accelerating indicated to turn off the dual carriageway and you have to slow right down to about 30 mph to take the corner just after the exit. As this is a journey I have done millions of times before I am well aware how much gap i need to leave to not make vehicles in the left hand lane slam their brakes on, so I'm slowing down (not breaking) and this knob comes screeching up and trys to pull in the rapidly decreasing space between the lorry and my car how he never hit my car I'll never know but then starts booping his horn and making go faster gestures. Few hundred meters down the road we stop at red lights and hes leaning out his window shouting about how I was a stupid cow going so slow I nearly killed him. Hmm
I do hate when I accidentally cut someone up or make a mistake all I can do is raise my hand and say sorry but I wish there was a more universal response when driving which means "opps sorry"

Tish008 · 08/09/2021 10:44

@ThanksIGotItInMorrisons

Driving with my son, about 4 yrs old?? Turning right on a junction. Turn is on a hill - traffic coming from the left is coming over a hill and down. Wait for road clear in both sides before turning. White van man comes speeding up over the hill approx 50mph on a 30 mph road. I would never have known he was going to come speeding up behind me. This was at night so it was getting dark. Arsehole driver banged on horn and then put his full beam on. I couldn’t see a fucking thing. Luckily I was very familiar with the road and knew roughly the layout. Had to slow right down while arsehole continued to follow along right up my bumper with full beam on. I’m so lucky we weren’t killed.
Cars have a little flip on the rear view mirror where you can flip it up a bit to change the angle of the mirror. This stops cars behind with full beam on from dazzling you.
dryasaboner · 08/09/2021 10:45

Awful had this yesterday. Driving along a main road and a van on the otherwise decides to turn right in front of me with hardly any room. I blare the horn and the man on the drivers side flips the bird. Again if I was a man I very much doubt he'd have done that. I wish I was going the same way as the idiot as had I caught up with him I would have wanted to snap his fucking finger off. I can't stand the way men throw their weight and anger around at women

SoupDragon · 08/09/2021 10:46

@MoreAloneTime

If you were a man I bet he'd have managed to control himself
How can you tell what sex the driver of the car in front is? They are usually obscured by the seat and head restraint.
SoupDragon · 08/09/2021 10:47

A twat will be a twat regardless of their sex.

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 10:48

You were driving and someone drove too close to you, his “rage” and “trying to force you to overtake” are your interpretation of his behaviour. Ignore what you think he is feeling and drive as you feel is sensible. None of this is your problem.

He was literally inches from my car, meaning there was no stopping distance, and he was angrily gesticulating at me. When I turned off he hooted. So he made it my problem and I didn't want to drive with someone right up my rear angrily gesticulating at me. It affected me because I felt intimidated. It's not normal behaviour.

With regard to it not always being men, in the vast majority of cases I have seen and also experienced, it has been men. Also, I wouldn't have felt as intimidated if it was a woman doing it. How many women speed along tailgating and so on?

TheSockMonster I think this sounds a good idea

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NameEight · 08/09/2021 10:49

Had this turning right on to a very busy A road 60 mph. Man in works van didn't appreciate me waiting for a safe gap and pulled round the left side of me so I couldn't see and forced his piece of shit van into oncoming traffic. I should have sent dashcam footage to the police but doubt they would do anything.

Tabitha005 · 08/09/2021 10:50

@TheSockMonster

I always think it’s terribly ironic how women are labelled as being over emotional whereas in day to day life it’s far more likely to be men whose behaviour is ruled by their emotions. The difference is we tend to give men the courtesy of naming their actual emotions (I.e. anger, frustration, etc)

I work in a testosterone fuelled environment where such outbursts from men tend to get excused as anger. Eg. Bob got very angry in the Friday meeting about the delays with phase 2. I have started relabelling the behaviour as ‘emotional’. Eg. Bob got very emotional in the Friday meeting…

No one has commented on it, but it’s keeping me amused.

I LOVE this approach of reframing male 'anger' as 'emotion'. Women so often get told we're 'hysterical', 'shrill', 'upset', 'crazy', 'mad' etc if we show anything other than fairly neutral behaviour. I've worked in very male-dominated industries and sectors over the years and, when I was younger, put up with male behaviours that I'd NEVER let slide nowadays.

As far as road rage is concerned, on a personal level, I've never really thought about more men being guilty of aggressive driving than women, but I'm going to start taking more notice now. I quite often feel men who drive those massive truck/van hybrids (the aptly-named Mitsubishi 'Animal' and 'Warrior' for example) are so confident about their superiority on the road, they'll act like a twat towards anyone - men and women - equally.

Perhaps Mitsubishi are trolling these types by actively giving their vehicles monikers that practically advertise the intention of poor road-related behaviour?

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 10:51

How can you tell what sex the driver of the car in front is? They are usually obscured by the seat and head restraint.

He could see as he was almost in my car! Also I am taller than the head constraint. And it was daylight.

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