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To be sick of mens road rage and men being unable to contain their anger

162 replies

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 09:22

A man was tailgating me and gesticulating this morning because he wanted to force me to overtake a child who was cycling - on a busy road with bollards where there wasn't room. I'm so sick of men not being able to manage their anger, and thinking they are entitled to be so aggressive and rude.

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LondonDweller83 · 08/09/2021 10:55

@TheFeistyFeminist

When a similarly arrogant sod cut me up and I used my car horn, he stopped, blocking the road, got out and started shouting at me to open my window. No way! I got out my mobile phone, pressed 9, showed him. He continued, pressed 9 again. More shouting, one more 9. I hovered over the Call button, and he practically ran away, back to his car, and drove off.

I had EXACTLY this scenario except with a male motorcyclist and it was on the M3! Middle of the day in the week so very quiet - He literally STOPPED his bike in front of my car, got off and came BANGING on my car window in rage. Thankfully I had the foresight to lock the doors as I saw him steaming over. Got my phone and rang 999. Meanwhile he was now trying to open the car door and shake the car. God knows what he would have done to me. I showed him the phone showing 999 and he ran and leapt onto his bike and sped off. I was probably around 24 at the time and he looked at least 45.

AssassinatedBeauty · 08/09/2021 10:57

Men are involved in more accidents than women, are more likely to commit driving offences and are more likely to hold attitudes about driving that are potentially dangerous.

www.osv.ltd.uk/iam-research-confirms-men-more-likely-to-be-involved-in-crashes-than-women/

Not all men of course, but perhaps too many.

Natty13 · 08/09/2021 11:01

I find women and men are equally aggressive drivers where I live (London). There are certain roads where everyone behaves like a fucking lunatic whether im driving or walking.

Although once, when we lived on a narrow residential street, peiple often used it on weekends to cut through to avoid the main road. I was crossing with my shopping one Sat morning and a man came tearing up it going at least double the 20mph speed limit. He seriously came tearing up form nowhere. The inconvenience of finding me halfway across the road made him decide to peep his horn. So I stopped where I was to tell him off. Dont you fuckong dare peep at me when YOU are the one speeding!! That made him peep his horn more and angrily gesticulate at me so I shouted "I HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO BE TODAY, PEEP YOUR HORN ONCE MORE AND I'LL STAND HERE ALLLL DAY!" (I have a shocking temper). He was fucking incandescent inside the car so I wound him up a bit more by putting my shopping down and telling him to get out and tell me that (i had no idea what he was shouting but it seemed rude). His poor wife was beside him really trying to settle him down. It was absolutely ridiculous, he looked about 65-75, well dressed and looked like an intelligent man his behaviour was absolutely ridiculous. Just before we moved from that street the council put in speedbumps. Of course the local FB group was people against them apart from those who actually lived on that street and nearly got run over by maniacs 3x per week.

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 11:01

How terrifying for you LondonDweller83

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DratThatCat · 08/09/2021 11:01

Slightly different circumstances but I work on self scan in a supermarket and all the abuse and threats of violence I get are from men. All of them. Women can have attitude and be rude, definitely, but when it comes to shouting, name calling, threatening to wait outside for me when my shift ends, its all from men. And my male colleagues don't get half the shit I do from them, unsurprisingly.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 08/09/2021 11:02

YABU as there are as many aggressive women drivers, particularly as PP said the mums in their 4x4s.

Iggly · 08/09/2021 11:02

@AssassinatedBeauty

Men are involved in more accidents than women, are more likely to commit driving offences and are more likely to hold attitudes about driving that are potentially dangerous.

www.osv.ltd.uk/iam-research-confirms-men-more-likely-to-be-involved-in-crashes-than-women/

Not all men of course, but perhaps too many.

I am not surprised.

The road rage incidents I’ve had have been with men. Wankers. Maybe too much emotional repression has happened in their childhood and they’re letting it all out.

Iggly · 08/09/2021 11:02

@WhatATimeToBeAlive

YABU as there are as many aggressive women drivers, particularly as PP said the mums in their 4x4s.
Read the research link!
Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 11:06

Definitely no being unreasonable! As people are talking about their experiences, my boyfriend cycles to and from work everyday, people are so aggressive towards cyclists! (Mainly men in his experience too!) it's like they fail to understand that if they hit him they'll probably be okay but he will not!

HarryLimeFoxtrot · 08/09/2021 11:07

How can you tell what sex the driver of the car in front is?

I definitely notice that other drivers are much more courteous when I drive DH’s car. Which is bigger and more powerful than mine. So I’d say they may be reacting to your car rather than your sex.

Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 11:10

Oh I just remembered too, a couple months ago, I was in the car with my dad on the motorway, my dad was driving, we were on the outside lane, going the speed limit, there was no space for us to pull in so we stayed in that lane, a man behind us was driving right up our backside, with his hand pressed against his horn! 'Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep beep beep beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep' I mean wtf, eventually we moved lanes, and he sped off at 100 miles an hour

JustLyra · 08/09/2021 11:12

I think driving standards have dropped and aggressive behaviour has increased massively since lockdown.

There are some major roadworks on the outskirts of where I live that have massively increased the traffic through the village for a while (people take it as a short cut). Twice in the last week I’ve had people beeping their horn and making gestures simply because I was waiting to turn into my street and they’ve been pissed off at having to wait a minute or two (at most!).

I also had a guy last week who was so close to the back of my car I could probably have told you his eye colour from my mirror. I slowed down accordingly, there was literally no stopping distance between his car and mine, and he overtook on a blind bend then slammed on his brakes in front of me. Twenty minutes later I ended up behind him again in another part of town and he slammed his brakes on twice, I’m assuming he recognised my car.

Between that, the number of people who’ve forgotten how to use indicators and the speeds some folks are driving at I’m back to driving as little as possible as it’s just horrible (I hate driving anyway).

Poetrypatty · 08/09/2021 11:12

That's interesting HarryLimeFoxtrot I think my car would be the type mainly driven by women.

For cyclists it must be very hard being on the receiving end, like you say Keke94LND literally their lives at risk.

The driver this morning failing to care about the child cyclist was what really got to me. Like his needs were more important than that child's safety.

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5zeds · 08/09/2021 11:16

Also I am taller than the head constraint. then raise it or it offers no protection in a crash.

Someone drove too close to you, ignore their mood and your interpretation of their intent.

Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 11:16

@Poetrypatty

That's interesting HarryLimeFoxtrot I think my car would be the type mainly driven by women.

For cyclists it must be very hard being on the receiving end, like you say Keke94LND literally their lives at risk.

The driver this morning failing to care about the child cyclist was what really got to me. Like his needs were more important than that child's safety.

He's probably the type who moans about cyclists on the road, and then moans about cyclists using the pavements
cloudyrain · 08/09/2021 11:17

I have done far less driving in the last 18 months than the previous 35 years and I am now often shocked at how bad it is when I go out, particularly at commuting times.
If I decide to go to the office my journey is less than 10 minutes, I will get cut up, flashed or overtaken once in that time without fail. Yet I always drive to the speed limit am confident and drive a new decent car. If I need to go onto the M25 or other similar roads on my journey it is even worse. My DH agrees and he is a typical Audi driver!

However I drove the length of the country (south to north) for the bank holiday weekend on A roads and everything was chilled. and polite with no incidents.

Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 11:18

@5zeds

Also I am taller than the head constraint. then raise it or it offers no protection in a crash.

Someone drove too close to you, ignore their mood and your interpretation of their intent.

There's a difference between ignoring and being upset by something? When my boyfriend is cycling and comes across aggressive drivers purposely try to scare him, I tell him to not react because you never know what they might do, so I essentially tell him to ignore it, but that doesn't mean he isn't allowed to be upset by it!
whenwillthemadnessend · 08/09/2021 11:20

Yep. I was abused yesterday as a middle age knob thought I nicked his par king space but it was bullshit. He was bloody taking a disabled space waiting for another space to become available. Cheeky Sod shouted at me in front of loads of people for ages.

DdraigGoch · 08/09/2021 11:21

@XelaM

I hate cyclists men 🚴‍♀️ rude, aggressive, entitled and often don't follow the rules of the road!!
You came on a post about an aggressive driver to moan about cyclists?

If I ever become dictator, private cars will be banned. Cause far too much trouble.

There.

Said it.

MintyGreenDream · 08/09/2021 11:22

What a wanker he was.Im a new driver and I'm nervous around cyclists

5zeds · 08/09/2021 11:22

Nobody allows or disallows any emotion you feel. If you ignore something how does it impact your emotions??? In your example you are telling your boyfriend to pretend To ignore car drivers which is not the same.

EvilPea · 08/09/2021 11:23

@Porridgealert

"women have been responsible for a lot of the near misses I have had - failing to give way to the right at a roundabout,"

It pains me to say it but...women and roundabouts are a dire combination. They just don't seem to understand who has right of way. I think their hesitancy is responsible for just as many accidents as aggressive drivers.

Lack of indication does not help on roundabouts
Keke94LND · 08/09/2021 11:30

@5zeds

Nobody allows or disallows any emotion you feel. If you ignore something how does it impact your emotions??? In your example you are telling your boyfriend to pretend To ignore car drivers which is not the same.
This is just taking the responsibility away from dickheads and onto you, nice sentiment but doesn't work in reality. If someone threatens me, and I walk away, am I wrong to feel upset by that? Is it me making myself upset, or is it the person who threatened me making me upset?
Rocaille · 08/09/2021 11:31

You came on a post about an aggressive driver to moan about cyclists?

Male cyclists are a problem too. I saw one menacing a woman the other day. She'd passed him too close, and then stopped at some lights. He was banging on her car window and screaming at her. She looked terrified. He was incandescent with rage, until a male pedestrian told him to knock it off, and he scuttled away.

AndTime · 08/09/2021 11:32

@Keke94LND

Oh I just remembered too, a couple months ago, I was in the car with my dad on the motorway, my dad was driving, we were on the outside lane, going the speed limit, there was no space for us to pull in so we stayed in that lane, a man behind us was driving right up our backside, with his hand pressed against his horn! 'Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep beep beep beep beep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep' I mean wtf, eventually we moved lanes, and he sped off at 100 miles an hour
similar happened to me once, I was in the outside lane but behind another vehicle who was only going about 60, no space for either of us to pull in.

Black BMW comes right up behind me flashing his lights and beeping his horn. I couldn't go anywhere. When a space opened up I got in it and he did the same thing to the car that had been in front of me. Then went tearing off when he managed to get past.

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