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AIBU to not want in laws taking over our new flat?

162 replies

Goodfry2024 · 05/09/2021 10:13

DH has worked for the last 5 years to save money to buy an apartment in Turkey. It’s nothing fancy but it’s a 2 bed apartment in a nice city. When we have enough cash to make the move, we’re planning to go over there and DH will quit his job here. The reason for moving is that it’s closer to his own culture than where we currently are We’ve sacrificed a lot. We’ve gone without buying ourselves new clothes, shoes and even not used heating in Winter when it’s freezing cold. On top of this DH regularly sends money to his mother and other relatives back home. DH dropped a bomb on me that he wants to put his younger brother, wife and their baby in the flat and we can go every year for holidays for 6 weeks. I didn’t know that this was his plan all along and I feel deceived and cheated. I don’t want these people in OUR flat, destroying something that we saved for and sacrificed comforts for. On top of that they are dirty people and I know they won’t keep the flat in good condition. Also, they won’t be paying any rent or any bills. I feel really weird about my DH providing for his brother and his wife. Especially the part about providing ANYTHING for another woman.

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timeisnotaline · 05/09/2021 10:33

Personally I’d also go buy something expensive he has no use for that Id like, and say you’ve pretty much just given away the flat I saved so hard for with you, and you mind my spending a little on something I can actually enjoy using, UNLIKE what you lied to me and told me would be OUR flat? You’ve got some nerve.

ActonSquirrel · 05/09/2021 10:33

Divorce him. Then the flat is a martial asset and will have to be sold to give you some of it.

Gonnagetgoing · 05/09/2021 10:34

@toomuchlaundry

Is it a cultural thing to provide for siblings? I know it can be for parents.
I’ve known a Nigerian woman send money home to her parents where the other siblings at least 2 of them are married apparently to millionaires and she works as an EA in London not owning properly etc. Hardly fair!
Chloemol · 05/09/2021 10:35

I would be having a very clear conversation with him

The idea is you are moving there so there won’t be room for his brother etc

If that is now not the case then i would expect the flat to be sold and a better property bought in this country, and no more scrimping and saving, so new clothes would be bought, heating used etc

If he chooses to continue to allow his brother to live there then you know his family has priority over you. I would then be making plans to leave

Auntienumber8 · 05/09/2021 10:35

This is very much a cultural thing and nothing to do with religious beliefs. My Father and my brother as the oldest sent money home to our grandparents, different culture and zero religion involved.

He has lied to you and I think a divorce is the only way. Do you have any dc together?

Gonnagetgoing · 05/09/2021 10:35

@timeisnotaline

Personally I’d also go buy something expensive he has no use for that Id like, and say you’ve pretty much just given away the flat I saved so hard for with you, and you mind my spending a little on something I can actually enjoy using, UNLIKE what you lied to me and told me would be OUR flat? You’ve got some nerve.
That’s great in theory but suppose he refuses to do this? Or she doesn’t have the financial means to do this.
femfemlicious · 05/09/2021 10:36

It seems to me that he is investing in his home country and not buying a property in the UK so that you have nothing to claim if you ever decided to divorce him as he has no assts in the UK . Tread carefully OP

ActonSquirrel · 05/09/2021 10:37

@Gonnagetgoing

To be honest I’m always slightly suspicious and have never got involved with a man who’s from another culture where they’re expected to support the family. Not all families expect their relatives living abroad to support them but a few do.

In fact I’ve heard from a few friends that some of their relatives are under an illusion that life in the west comes with a big pay packet and therefore you’re expected to support them, or pay more to support them, even if you don’t earn much yourself! Bonkers!

Oh yes.

My friend dated a man from a country that has no benefit system so he was sending £500 a month home to his parents and also paying for his kids school fees.

When he lost his job my friend stepped in and paid it for him.

I was Hmm that she was supporting not only him but his parents and kids too. But she was incensed that I dare question her devoted boyfriend who was totally committed to her.

Only he never married her and dumped her when she said she wanted kids.

Payproblems · 05/09/2021 10:38

Op it sounds like a your being scammed this is not an ordinary way to behave.
I can imagine you for incredibly wealthy people who have lots of property this maybe an over sight but not for moderate well off people who have had to sacrifice. He's using you op.
Get out.

kweeble · 05/09/2021 10:39

He has deceived you - get your paperwork in order and see a solicitor to get a divorce underway - I’d never trust him again.

Givemethatknife · 05/09/2021 10:40

I would be seriously reconsidering this marriage if you really think this was always his plan and he didn’t tell you. Especially as it sounds like he spends your joint income without consulting you eg sends so much money back home you have to live in a shabby flat.

The fact that you are more annoyed with his brother’s wife than his brother is illogical on the face of it - but of course makes sense if you know your husband isn’t treating you well.

If you think your husband will listen and change if you ask him to then discuss it. If he won’t I would quietly gather a list of all your joint assets (property, pensions, savings, income) go and see a solicitor quietly, find out what you see entitled to, get your ducks in a row and leave.

His behaviour will only get worse. Why stay with a man who treats you with contempt. If you divorce him you can get your half of that flat back.

PumpkinPatch21 · 05/09/2021 10:40

Divorce time.

pigsDOfly · 05/09/2021 10:40

Just say no. It's pretty simple.

Not really if the flat has been bought in just the OP's husband.

He's lied to you and tricked you into scrimping and saving and going without to provide a home for another couple.

This would be the end of the line for me.

I'd be booking an appointment with a divorce lawyer this week.

At least if you divorce him you'll get half of the cost of the flat back.

Kuachui · 05/09/2021 10:40

Fuck that I'd be leaving. I wonder if he's using you, he's been very deceitful 🤔

Kuachui · 05/09/2021 10:41

Also yes I'd be going to a lawyer explaining the situation and wanting 50% of the property cost back

BeagleBeagled · 05/09/2021 10:42

Will you ever be his priority? Can you imagine what your life would be like if you did move there in the future? I think you need to prioritise yourself and maybe think about divorce and getting what you are owed. Don't live in the cold and dark for others who probably don't even think about you.

Elieza · 05/09/2021 10:43

There is a strong culture in many countries where family abroad is expected to fund family back home.

It’s a pride and cultural thing.
A lot of times the men involved are very obedient to their parents. When they marry the wife is not the centre of her husbands world, she’s below his mother in the pecking order. So when the mother says jump the man says how high. The wife just has to accept it. As that’s what happens in the culture.

There’s another thread on her regarding the same type of thing, a man sending so much money home that he and his wife live in relative poverty and his non working lazy brother and wife who has five kids live off the money he sends back to his home country.

It’s nice to help family. But to lie about it is unacceptable. What he wants to do with his share of your joint money is his business. But you should still have your half of the monthly pay to do your thing.

For me that would be a dealbreaker. Is your marriage legally recognised in the U.K., ie a paper marriage not just within Islam? If so you and this is a deal breaker for you, I’d be considering divorce. I couldn’t live with a liar. That way you’d get half of everything including the house (although granted it’s more complicated than that and depends on a number of factors).

You either accept this culture and realise he can’t change its ingrained. Or you try and get him to be fair to you and watch him squirm and potentially hide more things from you. He may be able to change and tell the family he’s not a cash cow, some have per other threads. But it will be hard and his family will threaten to never speak to him again and be wailing down the phone about how terrible a man he is yada yada.

Perhaps he should give the flat to his brother and tell him no more money will be forthcoming for anything. Ever. And then you start again saving for a flat? Without having to send money home you should manage more quickly than five years this time.

But I’d imagine you’d need to keep an eye on finances as the minute the mother says she needs money he will be transferring it over like the “good son” he wants to be.

ChargingBuck · 05/09/2021 10:44

DH has worked for the last 5 years to save money to buy an apartment in Turkey.

This phrasing is so odd I have to clarify WTF is going on.
OP - may I ask, do you work?
If so, then surely you both worked for 5 years to buy this apartment.

Or have you not worked outside the home for 5 years as you have children?
In which case again - you have both been working for 5 years.

How does your husband respond when you express your disappointment about his plan to allow in-laws to reside in the apartment instead of yourselves?
How has it come about that all of this is his decision,with no input from you?

In short, what is going on in your relationship that DH thinks all the important life decisions are his to make, unilaterally?

Harlequin1088 · 05/09/2021 10:45

The audacity of this is utterly jaw dropping. I can't believe you've been freezing your ass off in a cold UK flat, scrimping and saving for a new home abroad only for your husband to essentially give YOUR flat to his relatives. This is absolutely disgusting behaviour and it really does seem like this was his intention all along. It appears you've been thoroughly duped OP and I would personally start to wonder what else he's lied about where your finances are concerned. I know it's easy to just say "divorce the bugger" but I really think you might need to book an appointment with a solicitor and start getting your ducks in a row. This whole shitshow where the flat is concerned is certainly financial abuse so that's more than enough grounds for an unreasonable behaviour divorce.

MrsPumpkinSeed · 05/09/2021 10:47

He's very very deceitful

cookingisoverrated · 05/09/2021 10:47

So you've sacrificed like mad and even been cold through the winter ... so he could buy his distant family a home.

Fuck that. You've been had.

I'd be consulting a solicitor about a divorce and making a note of any marital assets, including that flat.

50ShadesOfCatholic · 05/09/2021 10:47

The split assets advice is all very well but does British law dictate what happens to a property in Turkey? Not going to be an easy one to solve.

What is in this for your husband? He's still living in a shabby flat. Is he thinking they will live there until you get there? Is it in both your names? Do you have proof of sharing finances throughout the marriage?

GiantHaystacks2021 · 05/09/2021 10:50

Think I'd divorce him and get my share of the goodies.

loopylindi · 05/09/2021 10:52

In some cultures there seems to be an unwritten acceptance that family members look out for each other in just this way. I have knowledge of 2 such situations (from different countries) with one of the family members living in GB and effectively subsidizing those left in their own country.

gingerbiscuits · 05/09/2021 10:53

@JustLyra

So your husband has conned you into scrimping and saving for a home that he never intended you to live in?

The only further discussions I’d have on that flat would be how it was going to be handled in our divorce.

Add in the fact that your “he bought it” comment seems to suggest it’s all, conveniently, in his name suggests financial abuse - he has stolen your contribution to that flat to house his brother.

Run.

This!⬆️