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To not want an awake child around at 11pm when I'm on holiday PART DEUX

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FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 28/08/2021 00:41

First thread

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4332702-to-not-want-an-awake-child-around-at-11pm-when-i-m-on-holiday

OP posts:
KihoBebiluPute · 28/08/2021 23:56

I now can't switch off the lights and settle for sleep until the whole finale is related. OP better not be too pissed/tired/in a signal blackspot to be able to update us!

Opalfeet · 28/08/2021 23:57

@nonotmenotI someone said they'd received a message from a friend who was on.hiday with am anxious daughter that wouldn't sleep. Was threatening to send link of tbread to said friend.

Bundaberg84 · 28/08/2021 23:57

Oops ignore my post, I haven't seen your update 🙈

Opalfeet · 28/08/2021 23:58

Crosspost

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 28/08/2021 23:58

So I've been spending the afternoon and evening either stomping about raging or being in the pub raging and ranting to my new friends (who we met 2 days ago poor people 😂) and my phone got to about 3% so didn't want to post and lose a wall of text!!

Have no idea where me and my friend stand now.

Honestly it was awful, really ugly and not my finest hour or my friends. Contemplating drunken packing so I can set off bone at 7am before they all wake up.

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MyOtherProfile · 28/08/2021 23:59

Oh my goodness I wasn't expecting that. Alyssa has no hope with her mum responding like that.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 28/08/2021 23:59

All this over fucking air pillows!!!!!

I haven't calmed down since it happened earlier. I'm just SO ANGRY my friend saw fit to go and confront my DD because she stepped on an air pillow before another person.

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PartyPotato · 28/08/2021 23:59

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop oof that was a showdown and a half. Fully expected fireworks RE bedtime, did not expect you to not even spend the evening in the same house!

EverybodyIsInteresting · 29/08/2021 00:00

[quote nonotmenotI]@EverybodyIsInteresting

Who said they would link the thread? To who? [/quote]
This is the post I was referring to

Today 14:34Falleybollolo

Funniest thing. Friend of mine is on a mums holiday at a resort with a friend and thier kids. She's told me she's having a reeally hard time with her dc anxiety and that going to bed is really hard, spesh in a new place. Has messaged me saying how supportive the mum friend is being and how lucky she is to have her as a friend. Wondering if sending her this thread is harsh 🤔

Newmumatlast · 29/08/2021 00:00

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

So we have made friends with the people staying next door and this afternoon took the kids (with the neighbours and their kids) to the local 'adventure park'. Which includes one of those multi coloured "air pillows" you can run across and bounce on.

DD, Alyssa and the little ones, and the neighbours' kids all ran towards the air pillows with Alyssa screaming 'me first, me first'. DD got there first.

Alyssa absolutely lost it. Came back saying "Emma [my DD for the purposes of this conversation] promised I could go first and SHE went first" then cried for ages. I didn't really believe DD would agree to her going first.

I said well go on and play then, it doesn't matter who goes first and by sitting it out she's only punishing herself. She said "No because Emma and Neighbours Kids are bow on and will have had longer than me and THATS NOT FAIR" (she actually screamed the last bit, people stared, neighbours were Confused). My friend cradled her like a baby saying "poor you" and "oh dear that's awful" Hmm if had enough and told Alyssa there's no point getting upset when she could instead go and play. She turned to me and said "Go and talk to your daughter and tell her how upset I am" Shock I swear word for word. I said no of course I won't! So my friend said "Why don't you talk to her Alyssa and I'll go with you".

How fucking intimidating is that!!! An adult and child approaching my 9yo to have a go ag her.

But off they went and I thought actually I want to see how DD handles this and I'll only step in if needed.

Well Alyssa SCREAMED at my DD and said she shouldn't be bouncing and playing when she (Alyssa) is so upset and crying. DD was too busy attempting backflips and said she'll speak to her when she's done. Alyssa basically got in her face and said "NO you WILL talk to me right now!"

DD said she did NOT promise her she could go first, She actually wanted to go first too and she's not gonna stop playing just because Alysda's decided she doesn't want to play anymore. To which Alyssa screamed I hate you and stomped off back to our picnic table.

She then ranged about how awful DD and she hates her and DD is a terrible nasty friend. To which my friend stroked her hair and said "I know darling poor you" Angry

I said to her this is a ridiculous over reaction about an air pillow and she should just go and play but she can't expect DD not to play.

To which my friend said "Well it seems playing on the air pillows matters more to Emma than Alyssa's feelings". I said what's wrong with that - she said Alyssa is sensitive. To which I replied that doesnt mean my DD has to put up with her 'sensitive' tantrums, it's DD's holiday too and she's entitled to fun on her final full day not be pandering to Alyssa.

Alyssa was actually shaking with rage at this point and said DD is nasty. At this point the neighbours stepped in and tried to calm things but my friend refused to see my DD as anything other than a cold hearted cow because she wouldn't grovel for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

I told friend she was out of order confronting my DD over a tiny issue. She said I was out of order for not stepping in and making DD consider Alyssa's feelings.

DD said to me later that she never promised a thing, she just went to play on the air pillows and the next thing she knew her so called friend was screaming in her face with her mum behind her telling DD to apologise. She didn't. I said I was really proud of her for handling it so well.

Anyway we agreed to spend the remainder
of the day separately and they left the park. The neighbours stayed with me and were gobsmacked at Alyssa and friends behaviour. I don't know where friend and her kids went but I went back to the cottage to get ready as we all (me and neighbours) went to the pub with our kids, and I've just got back as DS fell asleep and DD was nodding off in the beer garden (which had a playground so they weren't bored). I spilled my guts out and they were very good and understanding company.

Came back and firmed and her DD's were in bed. I need to sober up and leave first thing I haven't even packed!!!

Wow I can't believe you didn't blurt out every single thing that your friend has done this week and how she is actually making a huge rod for her own back, displayed quite plainly for all to see in her daughter's inappropriate behaviour
KindnessMyFriends · 29/08/2021 00:00

Worth the wait 👍😊

BroccoliFloret · 29/08/2021 00:00

The neighbours sound awesome.

Are you all travelling back tomorrow together? Could be errr... frosty.

hahahayoumustbejoking · 29/08/2021 00:00

Pack and get out ASAP in the morning and don't look back!

BrightYellowDaffodil · 29/08/2021 00:01

Wow. I mean…wow.

I’m sorry your holiday has ended like this, OP. 3Breakfasts is a weapons-grade loon.

PartyPotato · 29/08/2021 00:01

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop but on a serious note it is such a shame for you that this has happened. I'm sorry for you and DD. But I also feel sorry for your friend and Alyssa because theres obviously issues there that need addressing. And I'm just cringing on their behalf at that ghastly behaviour.

berryfull · 29/08/2021 00:02

I agree that Alyssa does not sound neurotypical. Not that that should excuse bad behaviour. But it does explain it. Your friend sounds like she’s struggling tomm by parent a high needs kid. Hopefully they’ll get a diagnosis and some help soon.

Aliceclara · 29/08/2021 00:02

Let us know how it goes in the morning! She sounds like a brat but it's not her fault. Her parents have made her that way.

BroccoliFloret · 29/08/2021 00:02

I also feel sorry for Alyssa's younger sibling who is squeezed out in all this drama.

Spotsmum · 29/08/2021 00:02

How it went down

To not want an awake child around at 11pm when I'm on holiday PART DEUX
FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 29/08/2021 00:02

What the fuck do I do now.

Is it worth falling out over?

I'm not wrong am I - DD shouldn't have stopped playing just because Alysda completely over reacted because she didn't reach the air pillow first?

TBH I think DD was completely oblivious to the tantrum (she has a slight hearing difficulty so didn't hear the epic scream) and just played as she wanted to.

I'm still drinking 😬 I need to stop so I can drive ASAP! Neighbours have said I can go to theirs first thing if I want to avoid my friend

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whynotwhatknot · 29/08/2021 00:02

bloody nora your friend is not helping her child at all

Bornin1989 · 29/08/2021 00:03

FrangiPani had a dream,
A dream of adult time,
Where evenings were for adult chats
And sharing of good wine.
Alyssa had but other plans,
So refused to go to sleep,
Instead she invaded the adult's space
And ruined Frangi's week.
3Breakfasts should have stood her ground,
But "no!" her daughter cried,
And the little dear did get her way,
Breakfast laughed (sheepishly) "I tried..?"

Steam began to eminate
From Frangi's fed up ears
And to the pub she stormed alone
To seethe over several beers.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 29/08/2021 00:03

[quote PartyPotato]@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop but on a serious note it is such a shame for you that this has happened. I'm sorry for you and DD. But I also feel sorry for your friend and Alyssa because theres obviously issues there that need addressing. And I'm just cringing on their behalf at that ghastly behaviour.[/quote]
I've been crying over it all now it doesn't seem as funny Blush I get so few opportunities to have cheap holidays and this is such a horrible, horrible waste of my time

OP posts:
PartyPotato · 29/08/2021 00:04

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop no you aint wrong gal

Your neighbours sound golden

VillanellesOrangeCoat · 29/08/2021 00:04

Blimey! Your poor daughter! In your position I’d be bloody angry too!

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