To not want an awake child around at 11pm when I'm on holiday PART DEUX

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First thread

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4332702-to-not-want-an-awake-child-around-at-11pm-when-i-m-on-holiday

[quote Opalfeet]@MsMoppet I found toddler taming okay. One review I read said it sanctioned smacking, which it didn't. There was no reference to smacking in the book.[/quote]
agree - I liked Toddler Taming too - I'd forgotten about it as my youngest about to go to uni so a long time ago for me

I used toddler taming 20 years ago. It was my bible. The kids have turned out as very nice young adults.

Posts saying my child has asd and doesn't do this/get away with this, awesome, have a medal. Maybe if the mum here was aware her child might have something deeper going on, she would be able to find which techniques to best employ to support her child so hers behaved better too? None of you were using now and next or 'pandering' to your children taking as much as they need from home in order to reduce their anxiety and resulting behaviours before you were actually aware there was something more going on were you.

I have two asd children who go to bed and stay there and one who doesn't. They are separate people with different difficulties, needs and anxieties, not one homogeneous asd being who all react the same way to whatever technique/boundary we try

@Yourstupidityexhaustsme line ‘em up, a shot for every time Alyssa gets out of bed

I just think it’s been a 40 page shitshow and now 17 pages here of ripping into a little girl.

It’s not a good look.

But

@PartyPotato I think every time someone is a Sister Mary Funsponge I am going to take a sip. I'm still catching up so should be shitfaced by page 15

Eagerly waiting for the op to come back.

@SpicyJalfrezi

I just think it’s been a 40 page shitshow and now 17 pages here of ripping into a little girl.

It’s not a good look.

But

Keep scrolling of it's not for you and don't waste another moment here.

@Yesitsbess ohhh you’re gonna be wankered

Yeah, I agree. There's a real queen bee / mean girls vibe and it's not coming from the 8yr old. It's MN at its worst. Disparaging parents; trashing books many have found helpful ... it's like 'cool girl parenting' on steroids.

The longer this thread goes on the more I'm inclined to think the other mum is deliberately avoiding the sharing conversations about the new boyfriend. Because if she wanted to have those private chats they'd have happened by now.

@PartyPotato

@ElizaDarcysDeeds

Yeah, I agree. There's a real queen bee / mean girls vibe and it's not coming from the 8yr old. It's MN at its worst. Disparaging parents; trashing books many have found helpful ... it's like 'cool girl parenting' on steroids.

The longer this thread goes on the more I'm inclined to think the other mum is deliberately avoiding the sharing conversations about the new boyfriend. Because if she wanted to have those private chats they'd have happened by now.

I see it the other way actually. It's the people saying OP is mean being the 'cool mums'...Look at us, nothing gets us down, nothing disappoints us, we can holiday with a friend who is not present at all and it's fine, we can hang out with the kids 24/7 as we are cool and loving without fail.

The rest of us are hand holding and saying 'Christ op you are having a rough ride, hang out with us every evening and don't be alone'.

I think, as I've just finished a bottle of wine that I've had open since Monday, (I don't tend to drink during the week, except if I'm doing the cooking, I may have a glass as I cook) I may move on to the G&T for tonight's updates!

@SisterMaryFunsponge

Congratulations. That is the first time ever that I have spat wine out laughing. Curse you

@Yesitsbess who said that 😮😮😮

Don’t waste valuable wine, that’s a thimbleful right there you’ve just spat out

Got my wine ready to drink in solidarity with OP when Verruca Salt and her Wet Wipe mother have their holiday finale.

And @decoratedstandardlamp you have worded that very well. My thoughts exactly.

@Spotsmum

Got my wine ready to drink in solidarity with OP when Verruca Salt and her Wet Wipe mother have their holiday finale.

PMSL 😂

Another one with a full glass ready! And enough for a fair few refills :o

Game Rules

One swig for every 5 minutes 3Breakfasts spends upstairs
One swig for every time A comes down
3 swigs for every game of Dobble
Full glass down in one if the OP goes to bed without spending any time with her friend
Down the bottle in one if A goes to bed on time, stays there and goes to sleep!

I mostly have, @decoratedstandardlamp but I think the whole thing has crossed a line, and so I’m sticking my neck out to say so.

@SpicyJalfrezi

I just think it’s been a 40 page shitshow and now 17 pages here of ripping into a little girl.

It’s not a good look.

But

I thought most of this thread had been discussing parenting and school discipline methods not ripping into anyone.

Holy cow @PyongyangKipperbang I'm not sure I have enough thimbles!

Off to search the sewing biscuit tin.

It’s been ripping apart ‘gentle’ parents, a book many people have found extremely helpful and doomed an eight year old to a life where everyone dislikes her.

Aren’t we starting with the wine a bit too early? The night is young… and Alyssa is not going to sleep anyway. 😁