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to continue to support Extinction Rebellion

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54321nought · 24/08/2021 20:18

carrying on from the first thread

here

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a4327567-to-support-extinction-rebellion-more-London-action-tomorrow?msgid=110225062#110225062

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Crowtooyo · 01/09/2021 13:37

I agree that something needs to happen about climate change etc... I'm not sure the best way to go about it. But they came to Bristol once and blocked off the main road in to Bristol. I know of someone who sadly missed saying goodbye to their dying father in the hospital because the road was blocked off. That for me is unforgivable.

Darker · 01/09/2021 13:40

XR are advocating deliberative democracy with the citizens assembly.

They are also exercising their democratic right to non-violent protest.

They are not presenting solutions but demanding that the people who do actually have the power take action.

Darker · 01/09/2021 13:49

I agree that something needs to happen about climate change

If you agree that not enough is being done, what would you suggest?

Crowtooyo · 01/09/2021 14:30

@Darker

I agree that something needs to happen about climate change

If you agree that not enough is being done, what would you suggest?

If you read my full post I said I'm not sure what to suggest. But I think blocking emergency vehicles and traffic is not the way to go about it. A) it's dangerous B) paints them in a bad light instead of gaining support.
Darker · 01/09/2021 14:43

Yes I read your post.

My sympathy is with XR because they are at least trying to get climate change to the top of the agenda. No-one on this thread has come up with any remotely viable alternatives except what amounts to giving up.

Crowtooyo · 01/09/2021 17:58

Okay. Just got confused as you said 'what would you suggest' when I clearly said I didn't know what to suggest.
I still don't agree with the extremes they are taking. How would they feel if they missed their loved one dying?

Darker · 01/09/2021 18:23

individuals matters to us because we can identify with them and we can feel the agony of their situation. We can also make a direct causal link between the protest events of the day and the outcome. This is upsetting. Of course it is. It’s heartbreaking.

On the other hand millions of people are losing their lives or being harmed because of climate change, by rising sea levels or famine or flood or wildfires. We can’t make a causal link between their suffering and any particular failure or action. It’s just too big and too abstract. So we feel helpless and try not to dwell on it.

That’s why we need governments and people with power to tackle it and why corporations need to be held to account - it’s too easy for them to offer greenwash solutions and bargain their way out of the kind of changes that are needed.

DismantledKing · 03/09/2021 19:30

Not exactly bringing the public with them, are they?

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Darker · 08/09/2021 11:26

Whatever people are doing, by whatever means, it isn't enough.

Leaked government emails reveal ministers have bowed to pressure to drop key climate commitments from the UK-Australia trade deal in order to get it over the line.

news.sky.com/story/exclusive-ministers-bowed-to-pressure-to-drop-key-climate-commitments-for-uk-trade-deal-with-australia-12401988

BelleOfTheProvince · 19/09/2021 20:14

Not xr but some tragic results of poorly thought through protest here.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10004241/amp/Son-reveals-mum-left-paralysed-getting-stuck-SIX-HOURS-M25-eco-mob.html

SudokuWillNotSaveYou · 20/09/2021 00:54

They’re just trying to separate themselves from “Insulate Britain, their ex-founder (Roger Hallam)’s new movement and its bad publicity.

Proof from private XR WhatsApp groups that they ARE supporting Insulate Britain:
thecritic.co.uk/astroturfing-xr/

Statements about Roger Hallam starting Insulate Britain are still up on the Animal Rebellion page:
animalrebellion.org/event/roger-hallam-insulate-britain-strategy-and-recruitment/
I included a pic before they can erase it (first pic) since…

Extinction Rebellion Global had an info event for Insulate Britain just one week ago as you can still see on Google (second pic) but that now leads to a “404 Not Found” on their webpage.

Sigh

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Draggondragon · 20/09/2021 02:45

I hate the sanctimonious 'the world we leave our children' crap. You have 3 or 4 children compared to another person who has one or none and think you're a hero but you are the problem!

Furries · 20/09/2021 03:34

Bunch of blooming tits.

DdraigGoch · 20/09/2021 23:39

@Draggondragon

I hate the sanctimonious 'the world we leave our children' crap. You have 3 or 4 children compared to another person who has one or none and think you're a hero but you are the problem!
Indeed, the very cause of climate change is that there are too many humans. All manner of polluting activities wouldn't matter if there were only a fraction of the number of people doing them. So the worst thing you can do to our overcrowded planet is reproduce beyond replenishment level.
FuckingFabulous · 21/09/2021 06:44

Someone I used to live with is all over our local press as a member of extinction rebellion. Either being arrested or interviewed. Giving it the lofty moral high ground bullshit. He is a benefit cheat, he steals from his poor elderly parents, he's regularly banging coke up his nostrils, he causes thousands of pounds worth of damage to cars and buildings and beaten up innocent people in relation to it. And he's truly found his kindred spirits in this "movement."

Sure, support them.

YABU.

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