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AIBU and treating someone as "a second class friend"?

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CasEJW · 21/08/2021 00:21

So this situation involves me and 3 friends, I'm just going to use first initials.

I met up with S for dinner this week, she told me that she had plans to have drinks with A (who neither of us have seen in many months) on Saturday, would I like to come along if A was ok with that? I agreed and told her that another friend, T had previously asked to do something with me on Saturday and at the time I hadn't been sure if I was free and so said no, could we invite him along too? S was fine with that, said she'd talk to A and let me know.
Today S messages me, says that A was fine with me joining, I asked about inviting T, she said I could and I did.

S then messages me to say that A didn't want T there. I had assumed she'd asked about him when she did me but she'd forgotten and then just assumed A would be fine with T coming too and didn't ask me to wait for her to ask A.

Now as far as I am concerned these were A and S's plans. I've been in A's position before and felt obligated to say that other people can join in on plans when I would rather they didn't and I ended up wishing that I hadn't gone out at all. S and I were in agreement that saying T was coming anyway would just make everyone uncomfortable.
So I had the awkward job of calling T to explain, asking if anything had happened between him and A to explain why he wouldn't want him there (apparently not?). I apologized for the situation, offered to make arrangements for he and I (and possibly S) to do something separately on a different day. T said that he was upset that A didn't want him there and the rest of the call was spent with him trying to think why.

Over an hour later I get a message from T saying that he is pissed off with me and S because we are treating him like a "second class friend".

I explained that this wasn't originally supposed to be a group outing, that they were A's plans to start with and if he isn't comfortable with T being there then it's unfair and disrespectful for us just to bring T along, I explained being in A's position etc. Everything that I've put in this post.

And the response I've got is "I can see it from your perspective you're just wrong."

If A had said that he hadn't wanted me to join I wouldn't have had an issue. I can understand T being upset about being invited but I really don't see what how doing anything else would have accomplished anything but extreme awkwardness and an unenjoyable night out.

AIBU? What would you have done differently?

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/08/2021 22:29

Poor T!

You definitely shouldn’t have told him that A didn’t want him there. I agree with the pp who says that’s the worst thing you did. Plus A probably didn’t want T to be told he didn’t want him there - you’ve dropped him right in it.

Once you knew T wasn’t welcome you should have stuck to seeing him instead of going with S and A. That’s why he feels like a second class friend. You had plans with T first, and you confirmed them by asking him along. Once T wasn’t welcome, it behoved you to drop out too.

Imnewhere1991 · 29/08/2021 22:32

@SnarkyBag

Well apart from all sounding about 13 years old I would say yes you’ve treated T like a second class friend. Turning him down then making plans with someone else, inviting him along and then in inviting him. In your position I would have just done something with T rather than telling him he wasn’t wanted. Very insensitive of you
This.

Tbh I couldn't keep my attention to even read the whole post. Sorry op

phishy · 29/08/2021 22:35

YANBU, not sure why people are telling you you cancelled plans with T, your OP says you told him no.

I think when A said he didn’t want T there, I would have either said to S that you now have plans with T, so will meet up with S and A another time.

Or if you really wanted to see A and S, I would have told T that plans have fallen through and suggested another date to see him and then gone out with A and S.

You weren’t obliged to meet T on Saturday just because they asked you, you are entitled to say no.

AramintaLee · 29/08/2021 22:36

Yeah, the moment you realised you were free and got invited out by S, I probably would have been like "Actually T asked me first but I said no because I wasn't sure I was free, so let me just check to see if he still wants to do something".

I feel really bad for T and I can understand why he feels like a second rate friend. You have some apologising to do.

StepAwayFromGoogling · 29/08/2021 22:38

Right, so from your update:

  • T originally asked if you'd like to do something Saturday
  • You said no because you weren't sure if you'd be free
  • On becoming free you made plans with S and A
  • You then invited T
  • A decided he didn't want T there so you uninvited T

That's such a spectacularly nasty thing to do to a friend. What you should have done is say to A and S 'ah, OK, I best go out with T now given I've already invited him'. What you definitely shouldn't have done is explain to T that he was uninvited because A didn't want him there.
Honestly, OP, you shouldn't need that spelling out to you.

LimeRedBanana · 29/08/2021 23:13

This thread is over a week old, and the OP had abandoned it then, so I don’t think people are going to get any answers resurrecting it.

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