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To think this has to be a hoax?

268 replies

Sashimimimi · 16/08/2021 13:06

British student went to Afghanistan on holiday Hmm Is now trapped in a safe house and has ‘accepted death’. He’s been live blogging about his situation on 4chan. Incel types hailing him as a legend.

AIBU to think this is has to be a windup?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brit-student-22-stuck-afghanistan-24768024.amp

OP posts:
EastWestWhosBest · 17/08/2021 17:41

His mum is too upset to speak

If I was his mum I would be too ashamed to speak.

Errno · 17/08/2021 17:53

I’ve just been reading about the Nazwat animal rescue founder desperately trying to get his Afghan staff out of Kabul. They will likely be executed if they cannot get out.

Then I read about this wally and I feel really, really angry. He chose to go. He has been rescued when plenty more won’t be. He has taken the space of someone who may now die because they couldn’t get out.

But that’s ok - he got his edgy selfies with guns and his near death experience to talk about and make a bit of cash from. What a laugh eh mate? Sad

Tuscancat · 17/08/2021 18:21

He posted a photo of him in a British evacuated plane with Afghan refugees so I really don't think it is a hoax.
Prize pillock
His poor mum.

Fluffycloudland77 · 17/08/2021 18:26

@Errno

I’ve just been reading about the Nazwat animal rescue founder desperately trying to get his Afghan staff out of Kabul. They will likely be executed if they cannot get out.

Then I read about this wally and I feel really, really angry. He chose to go. He has been rescued when plenty more won’t be. He has taken the space of someone who may now die because they couldn’t get out.

But that’s ok - he got his edgy selfies with guns and his near death experience to talk about and make a bit of cash from. What a laugh eh mate? Sad

Yes we saw that yesterday, really upset us both.
CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/08/2021 18:27

@Tuscancat

He posted a photo of him in a British evacuated plane with Afghan refugees so I really don't think it is a hoax. Prize pillock His poor mum.
Oh, my point wasn't that he wasn't actually there. More that despite him SM posting, decrying the lack of help from UK governemnt (who were also running for their lives), and the fact that he has actually been rescued by UK military, there are/were still other organisations trying to find him, to trace him through Afghanistan, Kabul, to ensure his safety.

Yet more time and effort that could have been spent saving someone else.

Prize pillock indeed!

NigellaSeed · 17/08/2021 18:43

I don't think pillock, toe rag or tit are strong enough. He's spewing out evil. Reminds me of the Qanon monsters who spell out the word Trump with their machine guns.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/08/2021 18:50

I keep trying to forget the rapeugee comment!

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/08/2021 19:54

But that’s ok - he got his edgy selfies with guns and his near death experience to talk about and make a bit of cash from. What a laugh eh mate? “

I hope that no British media outlets pay this disgrace for his “story” (foolish hope, I know ….)

IHateCoronavirus · 17/08/2021 20:05

Absolutely agree he has blood on his hands. Angry those poor poor people Sad

AbsolutelyPatsy · 17/08/2021 20:58

@CuriousaboutSamphire

I keep trying to forget the rapeugee comment!
he is denying that comment came from him
snowballer · 17/08/2021 21:19

@Errno

I’ve just been reading about the Nazwat animal rescue founder desperately trying to get his Afghan staff out of Kabul. They will likely be executed if they cannot get out.

Then I read about this wally and I feel really, really angry. He chose to go. He has been rescued when plenty more won’t be. He has taken the space of someone who may now die because they couldn’t get out.

But that’s ok - he got his edgy selfies with guns and his near death experience to talk about and make a bit of cash from. What a laugh eh mate? Sad

Just a side note in case anyone wants to look this charity up, it's actually Nowzad. It's an animal rescue (dogs, cats and donkeys) and is run by an ex Royal Marine (so a Brit obv). He won't leave until his (local) staff are out and safe. They have female vets who are particularly at risk
saraclara · 18/08/2021 00:01

Realistically his local staff won't be evacuated @Errno And sadly there's no reason why they should take priority over any other Afghans.
The only Afghans that the UK and US can attempt to evacuate are those who have put their lives at risk by working for them. And they can't even be certain of getting all of those out, never mind considering it for staff at a random animal rescue.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but there is absolutely no reason why they should be prioritised. The whole thing is awful, but this ex-marine is being entirely unrealistic I'm afraid.

Ickle37 · 18/08/2021 01:02

Not sure how this situation escalated??? Its been 20 yrs. There has been a travel ban on Afghanistan since i was 21!! Are you joking me.
Oh lord. This kid is a dick ( though apparently back now anyway and i hope the sod gets billed) . He would never have got a visa, and was a walking target. He should never have been there.
It annoys me all these opinions without a single ounce of knowledge. Not the slightest bit.

Errno · 18/08/2021 06:19

@snowballer thanks for the correction (not sure why I’m conflating an animal welfare charity with an 80s reggae band).

@saraclara I don’t think I said they should have priority over other Afghans in danger. However I’d much rather the trained female Afghan vets of this random animal charity were prioritised for rescue over this attention seeking twerp who went out to Afghanistan for a bit of a laugh and some cool photos. He could have easily cost the lives of those rescuing him, and has most likely cost the life of someone whose place he took on the plane. He should be hanging his head in shame, not plastering photos of himself and his jolly caper all over socia media. What an utter fuckwit.

My fingers are still firmly crossed for all the amazing staff at Nowzad even if it’s now too late for their dogs and cats.

JohnStonesMissus · 18/08/2021 07:23

@VeryLongBeeeep

From his 4chan page:

‘I just made it to the airport and there aren’t enough spaces on the plane for me and all the Afghan interpreters who are seeking asylum in the U.K. Since I’m a citizen I get first priority. I may have just prevented a rapeugee [sic] from entering my country. Feels pretty good’

I don't have words to express adequately how abhorrent this stupid little wannabe-shock-jock's attitude is.

He's a total attention seeking wanker, he was taking selfies and filming himself on the military plane...
Selkiesarereal · 18/08/2021 07:57

I am sure his little escapade will stand him in good stead when looking for a job…

brokenbiscuitsx · 18/08/2021 07:59

@Selkiesarereal

I am sure his little escapade will stand him in good stead when looking for a job…
He’ll be on some low rate reality show soon enough, or peddle some book 😣
Odisia · 18/08/2021 08:16

For anyone saying 'oh he's only young' - at 21 my dad was fighting in the Second World War. He's utter scum and has blood on his hands.

Odisia · 18/08/2021 08:19

I've just looked for him on Facebook and Gareth Russell has written a very good piece on how despicable Miles Routledge is.

Sashimimimi · 18/08/2021 09:50

Thanks Odisia, off to read it now.

OP posts:
Keke94LND · 18/08/2021 10:57

[quote PlanDeRaccordement]@Qwerty789
How is what he doing anything different from a journalist? Except he’s not getting paid to do it, and they are. So why should he be arrested? He’s simply a freelancer who will put himself at risk and then sell his story opposed to paid journalists who get paid upfront and then go to danger zones to get stories.

I have sympathy for him and for everyone there facing death. Also for all the women and girls about to be enslaved again.[/quote]
You know what, you've actually just changed my mind on the situation with this boy, I hadn't thought of that but you're right

JohnStonesMissus · 18/08/2021 11:23

@Errno

I’ve just been reading about the Nazwat animal rescue founder desperately trying to get his Afghan staff out of Kabul. They will likely be executed if they cannot get out.

Then I read about this wally and I feel really, really angry. He chose to go. He has been rescued when plenty more won’t be. He has taken the space of someone who may now die because they couldn’t get out.

But that’s ok - he got his edgy selfies with guns and his near death experience to talk about and make a bit of cash from. What a laugh eh mate? Sad

Sums it up nicely, well said...
OhWhyNot · 18/08/2021 11:39

I agree he has been an absolute idiot and hopefully won’t get to much press attention (though we are part of that)

But scum ? Ffs Taliban leaders are scum he is just an idiot with an inflated sense of self worth

CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/08/2021 12:53

he is denying that comment came from him It was his comment, quote in this thread a few times. He can deny it but it has been seen by many!

MurielSpriggs · 18/08/2021 13:57

@CuriousaboutSamphire

he is denying that comment came from him It was his comment, quote in this thread a few times. He can deny it but it has been seen by many!
This is the "rapeugee" comment. Can you link to where he posted it? Or any screenshots or anything else pinning it on him (not Mumsnet quotes!). I've looked and can't find it.
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