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Regret having children?

371 replies

PumpkinKlNG · 15/08/2021 19:15

Is it ever ok to admit you regret having children? (Not to them of course) people say you never regret having a child but aibu to think that isn’t true?

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Plumtree391 · 31/08/2021 21:47

I'm sure a lot of people feel like that at times.

Phineyj · 31/08/2021 21:47

I mean if I had seen all that on a job description I would have said haha. No way.

I have also been massively taken aback by how much of parenting is trying to get children to do stuff they don't want to, or trying not to mind too much when they disdain things you think are important. I realise now I was a very compliant child Blush.

SpicyJalfrezi · 31/08/2021 21:47

I’ve never regretted DS, as I have an eye for the long view if you like. I wouldn’t want to not have a family.

I love him as a baby. Have loved the baby classes, the pram walks, the cuddles.

But oh god I WISH HE WOULD FUCKING SLEEP THROUGH THE NIGHT

Before I had him I was so naive. I thought I’d roll out of bed, feed him, roll back to bed. I was not prepared for about two hours of broken sleep between midnight and 5.

Phineyj · 31/08/2021 21:49

Oh yes. Also the structural sexism of society. I didn't see it beforehand. It's rather obvious suddenly once you reproduce.

Lotusmonster · 31/08/2021 21:49

One of my adult DC has struggled with a serious mental illness since 17. It was rapid onset, unexpected. The illness has caused them to OD once and I know they’ve been chronically suicidal. When you’ve sat next to your DC in intensive care and faced the possibility of losing them, never talking to them again ….you never regret or want to regret having them….you’re just grateful they’re still with you.

NewLevelsOfTiredness · 31/08/2021 21:50

I'm a Step Dad to two (7 & 11 now) and dad to a 2 year old. It's been bloody hard since our own came along (we got every other weekend off before that!) but one thing I've long thought has really become a solid belief:

Mums aren't meant to do this alone. Even good, functioning and equal contributing couple aren't meant to do this alone. They're meant to do it in a tribe. From an evolutionary perspective, the touched out mum should have an army of supportive tribe members ready to pass the kid around so nobody is going insane. The whole nuclear family thing is a construct that is all fine and lovely but deprives a mother of the support network she should have and shames her for needing it.

We're doing this on hard mode, against our design.

Personally, I went from zero kids to three (in all practical terms)in the space of a very few short years. I do my share. I do nights and have done since the second breastfeeding stopped at seven months. We sit down together, finally, when everything that needs to be done is done and neither slack off before that. And sometimes I 'regret' it. But because it all happened so quickly (relatively, I'm in my early forties and the years don't seem so long...) I still remember what was shit about no kids. What was missing - for me, totally understand that for some people kids are not something that will ever be 'missing' for them. That makes it easier for me to have context when I 'regret' it.

I suppose it helps that as a couple we never had the carefree childless years to miss? But I remember the first time I saw her with her kids, the way she looked so complete with them, laughing with them and so naturally enjoying their existence. It was later that I'd learn about her locking herself in the bathroom at times and just crying because at that moment she just hated it, so so much. Neither bit was false, the joy with them when I saw her or the utter misery in the bathroom. I just believe that in the latter moments, we evolved to have a mass of people around us to help.

XingMing · 31/08/2021 21:50

I think, having not had a child until I was nearly 43, that I had done pretty much everything there was to do as a young person. Suddenly I was ready to be a grown up and a parent, and it has been a happy experience all through. Not always smooth sailing, but more good than bad.

ZoyaTheDestroyer · 31/08/2021 21:50

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

I sometimes wonder if its age related. We have kids much older than people used to. We have time to enjoy adulthood, accrue income to spend solely on ourselves, develop our careers and invest in our hobbies, we have a lot that we "give up" if we first become a parent at 35 for example. Whereas maybe 60 or 70 years ago the gap between adolescence and parenthood was minimal, I can imagine parenting being associated with freedom from your own parents, with independence and adulthood etc. If you've never experienced 15 years of child free adulthood, you perhaps wouldnt miss it?
I would also add to this that a woman today of childbearing age is probably only the third, maybe fourth generation of women in her family to have meaningful choice and control over her fertility.

In social and cultural terms we haven't caught up to the reality that we do now have a choice. You can't regret a choice you never really had, and there is still a stigma for women (always women) who choose to remain child-free.

Nopenevergoingtohappen · 31/08/2021 21:51

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland Tue 31-Aug-21 20:23:28
I sometimes wonder if its age related. We have kids much older than people used to. We have time to enjoy adulthood, accrue income to spend solely on ourselves, develop our careers and invest in our hobbies, we have a lot that we "give up" if we first become a parent at 35 for example. Whereas maybe 60 or 70 years ago the gap between adolescence and parenthood was minimal, I can imagine parenting being associated with freedom from your own parents, with independence and adulthood etc. If you've never experienced 15 years of child free adulthood, you perhaps wouldnt miss it?

100% agree with this. It is very challenging to adapt to being a selfless parent after years of selfish (joyful) living

SpicyJalfrezi · 31/08/2021 21:51

One thing I have noticed though, as this comes up a lot on MN, is it is rare that people who regret their children just have one, which you might expect. So I’m not sure if it is that they regret children or regret multiple children.

Akrotiri1 · 31/08/2021 21:52

I don't regret having my son, but at 19yrs, am looking forward to the day he moves out.

Of course I will miss him when he is gone, but the mess, noise and the nocturnal comings and goings are really getting beyond a joke......

blueshoes · 31/08/2021 21:52

This is just Daily Mail fodder and been done to death.

Yes, all parents secretly regret having kids and want to send them back. Sheesh.

annacondom · 31/08/2021 21:53

Lots of good points here. I agree with the not seeing past the baby stage. Of course we are programmed to want dch and often think with our gut/heart rather than cold logic. I think the regret thing is about what you've lost, that freedom, and the feeling that your old life has been whisked away and replaced by all the drudgery, all without you actually making an informed decision. But yes, good comes from it too. My dch are grown up now and are both wonderful, wise humans. I think the mistake people make is having too many dch - money, time, energy pressures must only increase with more dch.

Obimumkinobi · 31/08/2021 21:53

I found the lies started at NCT classes:
"Contractions aren't that painfull"
"You may feel a little discomfort in your fanjo, as you something ten times bigger out of it" etc etc
A very good HV levelled with me and said that parenting a small child wasn't technically difficult, just exhausting, boring, repetitive and thankless for quite a while. I was 38 when I had my DD and I was definitely more patient and confident, than if I'd been in my 20s (I've NEVER been good without sleep so it that didn't seem any worse in my late 30s).
More lies in hospital: after a week unsuccessful breastfeeding I was told by the irritated nursing support lady that "it was up to me (er, thanks for that!)) and she wasn't there to judge me" which was funny because it felt like that's exactly what she was doing! I told her that was "great" because I wasn't there to be judged.

More lies at the Mum and Baby group when I lightheartedly dared to mention that "lovely as they are, babies are a bit of a yawn, aren't they?!" Cue the Earth Mother's clasping their newborns to their bosom, whilst backing away from the She-Devil.
I'd never really thought about children and had lived my life to the full before having kids. I met the right man and started to think about kids. We're happy as parents but both

agree (in the privacy of our own home and away from our DC) that we'd have been fine without kids.

ZoyaTheDestroyer · 31/08/2021 21:54

Mums aren't meant to do this alone. Even good, functioning and equal contributing couple aren't meant to do this alone. They're meant to do it in a tribe. From an evolutionary perspective, the touched out mum should have an army of supportive tribe members ready to pass the kid around so nobody is going insane. The whole nuclear family thing is a construct that is all fine and lovely but deprives a mother of the support network she should have and shames her for needing it.

Yes - there is an anthropological theory called the 'grandmother hypothesis' which posits that human menopause may be an adaptation to enable a woman to support her child in raising her grandchildren.

ED81 · 31/08/2021 21:54

all parents do is moan and groan. I’m my experience it’s the exact opposite to not been spoken about. It’s all I hear!

FuckingFabulous · 31/08/2021 21:57

I don't regret having my children at all. I bitterly regret getting a dog though, but the absolute venom I've had spewed at me for admitting that makes it entirely believable to me that admitting you regretted your choice to become a parent makes you as bad as Hitler to some.

Tiredtiredtired100 · 31/08/2021 21:57

I had ten years of teaching secondary school kids under my belt before I had a child. I think it gave me a much more realistic view of the drudgery of parenting, as well as the highs and lows of guiding a child through life. I know parenting and teaching are different, but I think a lot of people have children having never really experienced any substantial form of taking care of other people’s children and so the reality is a real shock.

allieverdo · 31/08/2021 21:57

Oh I do, but not to all 3 of mine. My 21 year old has turned into a complete selfish brat and is more trouble now than when she was younger. My 16 year old is hard but not impossible and my 11 year old is a dream. I wish I could have had an insight into them/their personality before giving birth!!

MyDcAreMarvel · 31/08/2021 21:57

I do wonder what people’s expectations were when then have children if they regret them. I have 8, 6 are disabled they require considerable amount of care.
They are still the best thing in my life along with my dh.
We didn’t have children to fulfil a need in ourself though and some of our dc are adopted. (We don’t have fertility issues)

Tessie87 · 31/08/2021 21:57

@Libraryghost thank you…deep down I know it’s all crap but there’s a part of my brain that just hooks on and before I know it, I’m feeling like utter shit. I also know the answer is to cut down on social media…I’m working on it Smile

Lotusmonster · 31/08/2021 21:58

@blueshoes

This is just Daily Mail fodder and been done to death.

Yes, all parents secretly regret having kids and want to send them back. Sheesh.

You are petty minded. I don’t. Read my post.
Phineyj · 31/08/2021 21:59

I think the odds are just better with one. More chance of keeping your career, more to spend, less chance of problems either with the DC or as a result of pregnancy & birth, less stress on your relationship, no sibling rivalry. Plus importantly, a shorter period of dependence to deal with overall.

We couldn't realistically have had a second anyway but given how hard it's been, that's probably for the best overall.

Imnewhere1991 · 31/08/2021 21:59

@Obimumkinobi

I found the lies started at NCT classes: "Contractions aren't that painfull" "You may feel a little discomfort in your fanjo, as you something ten times bigger out of it" etc etc A very good HV levelled with me and said that parenting a small child wasn't technically difficult, just exhausting, boring, repetitive and thankless for quite a while. I was 38 when I had my DD and I was definitely more patient and confident, than if I'd been in my 20s (I've NEVER been good without sleep so it that didn't seem any worse in my late 30s). More lies in hospital: after a week unsuccessful breastfeeding I was told by the irritated nursing support lady that "it was up to me (er, thanks for that!)) and she wasn't there to judge me" which was funny because it felt like that's exactly what she was doing! I told her that was "great" because I wasn't there to be judged.

More lies at the Mum and Baby group when I lightheartedly dared to mention that "lovely as they are, babies are a bit of a yawn, aren't they?!" Cue the Earth Mother's clasping their newborns to their bosom, whilst backing away from the She-Devil.
I'd never really thought about children and had lived my life to the full before having kids. I met the right man and started to think about kids. We're happy as parents but both

agree (in the privacy of our own home and away from our DC) that we'd have been fine without kids.

This
tillytoodles1 · 31/08/2021 22:00

No, I've never regretted having mine.