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AIBU?

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Ex-MIL demanding “her” clothes back for DD

257 replies

TheyreOnlyClothes · 15/08/2021 13:07

Situation: Split with now ExH in 2017 due to his violence and control, share a 7yo DD.

Due to his own circumstances and DDs medical needs he has contact with DD at his parents, EOW for 1 night.

She obviously has clothes at both homes, and I’ve never been bothered about whats at Ex-Hs/Ex-PILs and whats here as long as she has enough of everything. Occasionally ExH will text me and ask me to send some extra leggings or tshirts or dresses etc. because he’s running short there, similarly I will text him. If she has a growth spurt we’ll both agree to buy things, so I might get dresses and tshirts and ExH will get leggings/trousers and jumpers (we both shop at different places so DD gets the chance to mix and match stuff depending on her mood). For each house we buy our own pants, socks and vests. Shoes go between houses but she does have things like wellies at both homes.

We didn’t get on as a couple, no matter what he did I’m not totally blameless so I am prepared to work at a co-parenting relationship, which I feel we have. We have both agreed that as long as she has clothes and toys at both homes things can move between them – both homes have a 1 in 1 out policy so if she brings something from ExHs to here, she takes something from here back to ExHs and vice versa.

Ex-MIL has sent me a long ranting text asking for all the clothes back shes bought for DD over the last few years, accused me of selling them to “profit from her son” and told me if I don’t hand them all over she is taking me to the small claims court for reimbursement before taking me to the family courts for full custody.

I’ve replied saying that when DD grows out of clothes both me and ExH sell the old ones to replace with new things, I have no idea which clothes she bought for DD as things go between homes but if DDs wardrobe there was running short of things I could sort out a bag of clothes to send with DD next time she’s there to keep there.

She’s replied “see you in court”

What I’ve replied is genuinely the truth, I have no idea who bought what clothes. There’s probably things I or my parents bought for DD at their house and the same with ExHs and Ex-PILs stuff here, I don’t care who bought it or where it is as long as DDs happy, clothed and got toys to play with. Similarly the other parents in DDs class swap things between us as some of the children can decide suddenly they love their friends jumper from none uniform day so we swap things around, so theres a chance that something ExH/Ex-PILs bought is actually being worn by one of the other girls in DDs class – I know for example there’s a jumper DD has and loves that was bought for her friend at school by her grandparents but she hated it so swapped it with DD for one she preferred I did buy the jumper she swapped though as I remember buying it (the school actually encourage this set up rather than clothes sitting unworn in wardrobes until they get thrown away).

So AIBU? And if she does take me to small claims will she win? I admit I sell old clothes on ebay and/or facebook to get some money back to get replacements and I maybe sell them before DD grows out of them fully so I can replace with a bigger size but I’ve never tried to profit from the arrangement. ExH pays maintenance but Ex-PILs think it’s too much so that’s the only reason I can think Ex-MIL is behaving like this.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 15/08/2021 20:47

I wonder if Ex MIL has bought some specific expensive items and that Ex H has sold because he/DD doesn't like them and blamed them being missing on you selling for profit?

Smackthepony · 15/08/2021 20:51

@katemuff

Send her an application to Judge Rinder 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol, this was the first thing that went through my mind when I read the OP!

Seriously though, block her number and ignore the text. Don’t enter into any further dialogue with her. She is clearly mentally unstable. The arrangement is with your ex DH and he’s the only one you are obliged to deal with.

Looubylou · 15/08/2021 20:53

She sounds like a right piece of work. No wonder your ex has issues.

SunShinesBrightly · 15/08/2021 21:04

Keep it simple. If you didn’t buy the clothes, send them back to your child’s DF or PIL to dispose of.
I know what I have bought myself

Pixxie7 · 15/08/2021 21:05

I presume anything she bought was a gift, in which case they belong to your daughter. I would ignore her this won’t go anywhere.

Motherofking · 15/08/2021 21:06

ignore her . No judge will take this seriously . what a waste of resources

30degreesandmeltinghere · 15/08/2021 21:10

Buy some iron on labels . Write mil's name in a few of dd's things!
On the outside so they can be seen...

Catflapkitkat · 15/08/2021 21:11

Out of curiosity, why does she want the clothes back? What does she plan to do with them?

SunShinesBrightly · 15/08/2021 21:14

@Catflapkitkat

Out of curiosity, why does she want the clothes back? What does she plan to do with them?
I’m guessing she doesn’t want the OP to get money for them and wants to sell them herself.

Are these clothes designer clothes? If not I doubt they are worth much.

cricketmum84 · 15/08/2021 21:19

She's batshit. There is not a court in the country that would take that claim seriously.

SofaSpuds · 15/08/2021 21:25

Ignore her battiness

whataboutthecat · 15/08/2021 21:25

Oh wow! No, she won't get anywhere.

Harlequin1088 · 15/08/2021 21:31

@Mallo11

‘See you in court!’ Grin Sounds like she’s been watching too many 80s American dramas, it’s the kind of line I imagine being uttered by a woman in massive shoulderpads with a feathery perm to one of her 6 ex-husbands

Really like the pass-ag thumbs up emoji as a reply 👍

I love this! And then the camera cuts to her storming into her kitchen to pour and down a large martini in one go, snapping the olive stick between her long nails in fury....
spooney21 · 15/08/2021 21:44

What a twat! Clothes (anything really) is a gift unless specified otherwise. I would just respond 'no problem, see you in court'.

UmbrellaDrops · 15/08/2021 21:49

I would say, enjoy embarrassing yourself by explaining in a court how you want to take back clothing you bought your grandchild. On that embarrassing note alone, custody would never be granted to someone so stingy, you loon.

Miranda15110 · 15/08/2021 21:56

She's a nutter. Ignore. Small claims wouldn't entertain it. Not sure what's she's basing a custody challenge on? You selling clothes your daughters outgrown?

TheRebelle · 15/08/2021 21:58

So she thinks the family court will take custody off the mother and give it to the grandmother because some outgrown clothes got sold on, my reply would be this: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

WetBench · 15/08/2021 22:14

She batshit, just for not seeing her grandchildren who happen to be adopted as her grandchildren. Evil.
Not suggestions, but I just wanted to say you sounds really mature and sensible on yoir do parenting, so many people insist on the same clothes/kids getting changed on arrival so you would really sensible and grounded and I hope your ex wants to continue being sensible. Threatening to take yoir daughter for full custody would be the line for me. No one threatens ever to take your child! Screen shot and email just incase your phone breaks or something and you have proof for ever more.

whynotwhatknot · 15/08/2021 22:14

I would try and seek different contact arrangements for exh-shes clearly unhinged threatening you to take your dd away

i wouldnt trust her

Rainbowsew · 15/08/2021 22:19

@CagneyNYPD

Forward her messages onto your ex with a "I'm sending these to you so that we have full and clear transparency between us. I will no longer communicate with dd's grandmother as our communication regarding DD is sufficient. I'm happy to continue the clothing arrangements that we have for DD between ourselves. If this no longer suits you, feel free to get back to me with another plan".

Send the messages and then block your ex mil on all forms of communication. This woman has no need to contact you. Keep all communication regarding DD strictly between yourself and her other parent.

Absolutely this, if you hadn't already replied I'd say just ignore but just ignore her from now on. Let ex know what you've agreed with him is fine and you will not deal with exmil
Rainbowsew · 15/08/2021 22:24

She's nasty about the other grandchildren,does their DM/DF know? Shock

frazzledasarock · 15/08/2021 22:27

Honestly how much money is anyone making from second hand Primarni and Tesco clothing?

She sounds like she just wants a fight.

I’d leave it now.

Altho the suggestion from a PP to ask around friends and family for old tatty outgrown clothing and bagging them up and dropping them off to MIL really appeals to the vindictive bitch in me. 😆

BungleandGeorge · 15/08/2021 22:28

@SunShinesBrightly

Keep it simple. If you didn’t buy the clothes, send them back to your child’s DF or PIL to dispose of. I know what I have bought myself
This is what I thought. The daughter only goes one night a fortnight it can’t be too difficult! How many clothes have you not returned? I’ve seen this story the other way round with one parent sending the child in old/ stained/ too small clothes every time and keeping the new clothes that the child is wearing on return. Difficult to tell what’s going on from a distance, easiest thing is just to send their clothes back (if they’ve been bought to wear at their house they aren’t ‘gifts’)
Nillynally · 15/08/2021 22:31

Following because I'm desperate to know what the Ex's reply is! She is batshit!

worriedatthemoment · 15/08/2021 22:48

She sounds crazy surely she wants her gd to have clothes and many would buy their gc clothes