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Am I really a bully?! Should I give them the money?

255 replies

Charitytat · 13/08/2021 16:49

Sorry this is long and sounds very petty, but it's more indicative of a bigger picture and related to my relationship with my parents, which I struggle with. Happy to be told AIBU but please be kind 😬 as my anxiety is making this all very upsetting.

For several years I've enjoyed nosying around car boots and charity shops for bargains, and sometimes make a bit of spending money doing this. My parents started doing the same thing a few years ago and do regular car boots. These now take up most weekends and when they visit they want to spend all day in charity shops. They are very grabby and competitive. I don't resent this but it means it usually trumps anything else and it's getting wearing.

On a recent visit we'd been in a shop about an hour. It was lunch, I was worried about the dog, dad was bored. He asked me to get mum. She was looking at something, asked me about it, and I said I didn't really like it although to be fair I didn't really look properly. I then asked if we could go as both dad and I were waiting. She ended up not buying it but bought other things.

Mum had googled stuff on her phone and told me to go back to the shop to buy some (horrendous) tea pots. A couple of days later I popped in, couldn't find the teapots (secretly relieved) but saw the thing mum was looking at, had another look and googled it. It turned out to be worth a fair bit of money, so I bought it.

I told them about it and after mum found out what it was worth she was upset and quiet. Dad then said I had been horrible to mum and called me a bully, and that I made mum not buy it in the shop. He is really angry and has said I must give half the money to mum. This is despite him wanting to leave and asking me to get mum. Mum is her own entity and could have googled it, but in their heads I am now mean for buying it and turning a profit. If I had bought the teapot that would have been fine, but this item is apparently not fine. If someone else had bought clearly they wouldn't think badly of that person and would have just been irritated it 'got away'. But I have been horrible to them.

I think what's really going on is mum is upset with herself for not buying it and is taking it out on me, and mum can do no wrong in dad's eyes and he is backing mum up in his own way. They are NEVER wrong.

It's nearly 2 months rent (they know I am struggling for money). I told mum I'd give her some and she said 'i should think so too'. No thanks, no happiness, just an entitled response. I was initially intending on giving mum some, but as a surprise. Now I feel very resentful for being forced to. Dad called me a bully really upset me and ironically I now feel bullied.

Sorry this is long. It's not really about the money I suppose, but about my relationship with my parents. I'm 35 and feel like a child.
I would LOVE to stick up to them and I have told dad he is wrong for what he said, but he completely disagrees. They are now not talking to me about it but I expect this will change once I give mum the money.

AIBU for either keeping all of the money or just bloody giving it to charity to spite them, even though I need it? I feel like the damage is done on both sides, right or wrong, but is there a way of turning this around?

I can see mum's view and she thinks that I wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't seen her looking at it. I don't know if that's true or not. It's dad's behaviour I'm really upset with.

For those who think I should give the money to charity regardless, this is not an uncommon thing (watch Antiques roadshow!) So would appreciate not being told that I'm stealing from charity - I bought it, not stole it!

OP posts:
DoYouLikeOwls · 13/08/2021 19:59

@Getawaywithit

Hope you’re paying tax on your earnings
HMRC have joined the thread.
FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 13/08/2021 20:00

I'm still laughing at the thought of people filling in a tax return for selling a 10p book at a car boot sale 😂😂

TractorAndHeadphones · 13/08/2021 20:01

OP you’re wasting your effort explaining a situation that you’ve explained multiple times. Plenty of posters on Mumsnet who don’t bother to read OP updates and taking great pleasure in kicking them no matter what.

You’re not being U - you told them with the intention of sharing the money but they went off the rails. I’m surprised that so many people miss this crucial point. They somehow think that you told them for the sake of it. And are calling you all sorts of names.

Your parents are being mean and ungracious. I’d feel exactly the same as you. Especially if my child was struggling and had some money (and I was well off) I’d be very pleased! They sound toxic
Please do yourself a favour and stay off AIBU if you don’t have good mental health.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 13/08/2021 20:03

I am seconding @TractorAndHeadphones
Post

Some posters practically salivate the the opportunity to stick the boot in and I think they forget to read the OP in their excitement

SD1978 · 13/08/2021 20:04

Several different things. You only bought it because your mum had pointed out, even asked your opinion, then when going back later- you bought it. In those circumstances I would have automatically given my mum half the profit- she's the one who found it. If you didn't want to, then why even tell them you'd bought and sold it for a profit? Surely you knew this would be the outcome?

IndieR22 · 13/08/2021 20:05

@MummBraTheEverLeaking

Tell them that actually yes you were intending to give your mum some money as a nice surprise but they have ruined that with their attitudes, that you are very upset they think that little of you considering they raised you, and that it's probably best you have some space. Then go NC for a while.
This. Although I don't know what NC means 🤣

Personally I would offer to split with my parents as we have a great relationship but I know they wouldn't take it off me, especially if I was struggling financially. I definitely don't think you were being a bully and for them to speak to you that way is not nice or parental at all. Tell them it didn't sell and you keep the profit and stop spending weekends with them! And maybe a small donation to charity if you have a little spare, instead of your parents who don't sound appreciative!

Onesipmore · 13/08/2021 20:06

Actually what @DeRigueurMortis says in one of her earlier comments.

Lilymossflower · 13/08/2021 20:08

The parent dynamic sounds toxic

Keep the money and spend it on therapy

IndieR22 · 13/08/2021 20:12

🤣🤣

IndieR22 · 13/08/2021 20:13

@IndieR22

🤣🤣
Well it didn't quote what I was actually laughing at so now I just look strange. Never mind!
MontysMinions · 13/08/2021 20:17

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

I am seconding *@TractorAndHeadphones* Post

Some posters practically salivate the the opportunity to stick the boot in and I think they forget to read the OP in their excitement

I did read all OPs posts. I read that she did tell them she was planning on sharing it with her mum as a surprise (she said this a few times)

This implies that in the original conversation, she made no mention of sharing the money (as it was a surprise) and it was only when the conversation escalated that she said she was going to share it, but had planned on it being a surprise. Which, although may be true, sounds a bit disingenuous on the receiving end.

So for this reason I voted YABU.

If she told them, and at that time said 'of course I'm going to share this with mum too'. And then they still kicked off then I'll change my vote.

But this isn't how OP describes it

IrishCharm · 13/08/2021 20:21

@Charitytat I have read your original post and your updates and completely understand why you are hurt - especially by your dads comments! I don’t think you have acted in any way like a bully and you’re always intended to give your mum some of the money but they’ve tainted that with all this so even if you do gift them some money they’ll think you’ve only done it because they’ve kicked off - So I suggest you do the following - write them a letter explaining EXACTLY what you had intended to do and how hurt you have been by their words and actions! Write it and re write it until you are gay you have got it all down and then give it to them with the original person of money you were going to give anyway.
Don’t discuss it further in calls or texts as you’re not getting anywhere - they’re not hearing you!
If you decide to write and give them the letter they might actually sit back and take in what you’re saying. The communication isn’t working by talking so try a different tactic.
Going forward I would probably advise against further shopping trips or sharing details on who bought what etc.
Good luck x

JaquelineBean · 13/08/2021 20:28

Your mum spotted something that she liked in a shop, but was prevented from buying it because of your other reasons. Why didn’t you just go back and buy it for her? The value of the thing is totally blinding you to all normal good family behaviour.

cuparfull · 13/08/2021 20:31

Does the relationship add anything to your life? They sound draining. emotional sponges, dragging you down when they should have given you courage to strike out on your own.
Write your parents a letter explaining your perspective on the situation exactly as you have in the first post. Enclose half the profit and stand back. No apologies to them! Let them make the next move.

Really they haven't been very good parents in that at 35 you are still so insecure and anxious. You found something you enjoy , searching out bargains in charity shops and they still have to go one better, making it a contest, undermining you.
In your position I would be making plans to move away and giving myself some distance. You shouldn't feel so undermined in their company.

Babyboomtastic · 13/08/2021 20:32

The family dynamics on both sides baffle me.

Like many people have said, if it were me I'd have bought it for her, or rung her up and mentioned it's worth and asked her if she wanted me to get it for her. So from my perspective, it worked be fully hers to sell.

But equally, my parents wouldn't have preferred me to have the money if feeling broke, and arts have bickered over how they other person should get there money, and probably end up splitting it.

I think it's mean of you not to get it for your mum and take it for you instead.

I think it's equally mean if them to insist on some of the money knowing you were struggling to pay rent.

Hugoslavia · 13/08/2021 20:35

I see her point. I actually see both of your points. However, as a mother i would feel happy if my child had a windfall. I think that you should have offered her half and she should have declined.

Faevern · 13/08/2021 20:40

I don’t think you are bullying, I do think the dynamics are unhealthy.

It’s not relevant what I would have done but is it sold, how much money are you actually bickering over?

Is it worth it?

pinkpapaya · 13/08/2021 20:43

Give your mum half and consider it a 'finder's fee'. For a moment I thought you were going to say you bought it and gave it to your mum.

hey9654 · 13/08/2021 20:50

I think you should have bought her it and gave her it

olivesnutsandcheeseplease · 13/08/2021 20:53

Stop the madness. You sound far too enmeshed with your parents. Don't engage. Let them stew for a while and certainly don't try and call etc. You haven't done anything wrong. Get some space between you.

messybun101 · 13/08/2021 20:54

I actually would be mortified if I was your parents for the way they're acting.
Honestly, imagine competing with your daughter then throwing toys out the pram at her success 'No no! I saw it first it's mine! You're a bully'
Christ, if this was children next would be 'I'm telling mummy/daddy on you!'

Twillow · 13/08/2021 20:58

You seem to be getting a really hard time on here, I'm sorry,
Personally, I can't see that you did anything wrong, either in getting bored in the shop or buying the thing your mum had spotted but not asked you to buy.
They sound very hard work. I'd stop going shopping with them for a start.
And I would stand up for myself. Send them a text saying
"You're being ridiculous. I was always going to share the profits on the hideousvase with mum, but you've made me feel like I've done something terrible and I haven't. I'm will be using any money I make to pay my bills as I don't have a job at the moment. I'm not going to enter into any more discussion on the matter."

AnnunciataZ · 13/08/2021 21:04

Anyone else wondering what this charity shop find worth 2 months' rent is??

YANBU to keep the money OP but I don't know why you mentioned it to your parents at all.

bigbaggyeyes · 13/08/2021 21:07

Sounds like a very strange dynamic. If my child (adult or not) has the sense to reload at the item and google it, then sell on for a profit I'd be chuffed for them. Are your dp strapped for cash?

Pixxie7 · 13/08/2021 21:17

As your mum saw it first and you said you didn’t like it I would actually have just got it for her, so I think that giving her half is fair.