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Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:30

I’ve been part of a group for a while. It’s a political party, mainstream left wing. I haven’t gone to events for a while. The local group I’m in is shutting down and there was a party last night. I’ve made some good friends through the group but I was never super involved, ie position or candidate but did volunteer a lot of time at different periods. The group is very cliquey.

A few years ago after an event me and my friend went back from an event and gave a lift to someone from the group and they came back to my place on the way to drop him off and we all chatted for ages until very late at night. I liked him as a friend but never had a thing for him. He friended me on Facebook recently and I added him to be polite even though I don’t usually like to add people I don’t know well.

That brings me back to last night. The event was at a private area of a bar. I went with my friend and brought my toddler along after ringing the bar earlier and checking it was safe and ok. I said hello to a few people I know and then I was sitting at a table and my toddler was perched very happily on a barstool so I had to stand next to him to keep him safe. I was by myself a few times and no one came up to chat, to say hello to my little one or to offer to get me a drink or food as I couldn’t easily move. My friends did at various times and most of the night was fine but I just found people ignoring me, by myself, really rude.

I’m now a regular member of a different group and we would never have done that!!! By the way it wasn’t strange that I was there if I’m in a different group now because it was for all past and present members. The guy who came to my house was standing by himself at one point and he awkwardly avoided looking at me and went to chat to a group. It was so rude. I am a single mum and it makes me feel as if he thinks I’m so desperate that if he talks to me I’ll be obsessed and in love with him.

He wants a future in politics and I’m tempted to message him and say that voters can generally sense if someone is genuine or a social climber and so maybe he should give up on it because he comes across as very shallow and fake. I won’t do that in case he’s recently had a death in the family or something like that, in which case I would come across very badly.

I got a coffee with a friend this morning, who is also part of the group but wasn’t there last night. I told her what happened and she said “was that ? He did the same thing to me!” But it was actually even ruder in her case.

If the group was still going to be around I might consider circulating a general message saying that it would be nice if the group had a more inclusive culture if they want to attract and, more importantly, keep new members.
AIBU for thinking people should be inclusive and friendly in groups?

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SquirryTheSquirrel · 08/08/2021 12:35

Why did you take your toddler along - was there a childcare issue?

I'd be less inclined to go and talk to someone with a small child because I'd assume the child would be taking up their attention.

I'd fetch food and drink for a friend, but not for someone I didn't know or was only casually acquainted with (unless they actually asked me).

I think your expectations of what constitutes friendliness and inclusivity are a bit high.

Shoxfordian · 08/08/2021 12:37

Maybe they didn’t think you should have brought your toddler to a bar

Has it been more friendly before?

Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:40

It was fairly early in the evening and I’m a single mum and my little one has been a bit sick and clingy lately. I didn’t think it was worth upsetting him leaving him for a two hour event that wasn’t that important. Plus the political group is supposedly very progressive and family friendly so I don’t see why that would be a big problem for anyone.

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SquirryTheSquirrel · 08/08/2021 12:43

I don’t see why that would be a big problem for anyone.

It's not that it's a problem, just that if you have a toddler to attend to, you look like less of a conversational prospect than someone who is free to give their whole attention.

snowy0wl · 08/08/2021 12:43

If I understand correctly you went to a party where you didn’t really know anyone. Did you go and mingle or sit in a corner and wait for people to come and chat to you?

Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:44

It’s always been quite cliquey and a bit of a popularity contest with some people although I’ve also made some great friends.

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Shoxfordian · 08/08/2021 12:46

I wouldn’t go talk to you with a toddler but then I don’t like kids so there’s that

Did anyone else bring children?

snowy0wl · 08/08/2021 12:46

Based on your update, the group sounds hard work. I can’t stand cliques! I probably wouldn’t have gone, especially if I had had to bring my toddler. Were you the only person there with a child?

Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:46

@snowy0wl

If I understand correctly you went to a party where you didn’t really know anyone. Did you go and mingle or sit in a corner and wait for people to come and chat to you?
I knew a few people fairly well, some casually and probably around half I didn’t know at all. I was sitting at a table in the middle not in a corner. If it was the other way around I would try to include someone by themselves.
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SalsaLove · 08/08/2021 12:47

You took your sick toddler to a bar but it wasn’t an important event? I honestly think you should have stayed home with your child.

Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:47

@snowy0wl

Based on your update, the group sounds hard work. I can’t stand cliques! I probably wouldn’t have gone, especially if I had had to bring my toddler. Were you the only person there with a child?
Last night I was but other times people have brought children to events
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Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:49

@SalsaLove

You took your sick toddler to a bar but it wasn’t an important event? I honestly think you should have stayed home with your child.
He’s not really sick, he’s getting over a cold. And it was from 6-8 after being home all day and I didn’t drink alcohol.
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snowy0wl · 08/08/2021 12:52

You say you are part of a different group now (presumably friendlier?). Maybe chalk this one up to experience and not bother attending future reunions?

On a slightly lighter note, you describe an aspiring politician as “shallow and fake”. Isn’t that a general requirement of politicians? ;)

Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:53

I know it’s not people’s responsibility to babysit me if I’m stuck at a table but I just really think in a progressive organisation that an effort should be made to include single parents or they will not be involved, and the party will become more and more alienated from the people they say they want to represent.

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TheGenealogist · 08/08/2021 12:55

They were probably wondering "why's that woman sitting in the corner of the pub with a toddler"?

Weird.

Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:55

@snowy0wl

You say you are part of a different group now (presumably friendlier?). Maybe chalk this one up to experience and not bother attending future reunions?

On a slightly lighter note, you describe an aspiring politician as “shallow and fake”. Isn’t that a general requirement of politicians? ;)

Yes, much friendlier, thank you! I think that’s great advice. And unfortunately you’re right, this guy will be a huge success!
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TheYearOfSmallThings · 08/08/2021 12:57

In fairness if you bring a sick clingy toddler who wants to perch on a bar stool all evening so you are stuck beside them and can't join the group, you are not going to have a socially successful evening. It is not other people's job to leave the group and keep you company.

I'm not sure why you are even worrying about the guy you met once who didn't come and chat to you. Please don't send him a weird message about this!

SquirryTheSquirrel · 08/08/2021 12:58

he’s getting over a cold

If he was showing cold symptoms, I'm not surprised people gave you a wide berth in the current climate.

vanityfairsbackpage · 08/08/2021 12:58

YABU and needy

Tiana4 · 08/08/2021 12:59

I read your long OP . I had to read it twice to try to understand what your AIBU is about?

-You go to a group that is affiliated somehow to a political party.
-Group is closing, new group starting and there was a mixer for related old and new groups.
-You took your toddler and stood on your own most the 2 hours

  • someone you gave a lift to a while ago ignored you.
  • Your toddler was with you as he's been a bit sick and clingy lately.
-Your stories are long winded -You now want to circulate a passive dig at people , that they should be more friendly
  • you wish it was a friendlier group but it's not

Yabu

No one likes the person who sends 'those' types of emails

Mostly yabu because if you chat similar to how you retold this story, your conversation isnt easy to follow
And
You had a toddler with you who needed your attention.

WomanStanleyWoman · 08/08/2021 13:00

You say you wanted people in the group to be friendly to you, but when one of them added you on Facebook, you didn’t really want to accept and thought it might be a come-on; that he only talks to you because he thinks you’re desperate. Yet you found it rude when he didn’t come to talk to you.

I’m not entirely sure what you want from these people.

Malin52 · 08/08/2021 13:02

Bringing the kid was very very weird.
Mingling means actually standing in or going up to groups to chat. Not hanging about with your child on a barstool hoping everyone will crowd round you while the chat invariably turns to the toddler.
I'd have avoided you sorry.

snowy0wl · 08/08/2021 13:03

OP - I hope you choose to step away from this thread now. Focus on your new group who seem much better suited to you.

Caffeinemonster · 08/08/2021 13:04

@TheGenealogist

They were probably wondering "why's that woman sitting in the corner of the pub with a toddler"?

Weird.

Yep. Along with I’m going to give that kid a wide berth because they have cold (covid) symptoms.

I’m struggling to believe this is real. Why would you go to an event in a bar that is clearly an adult group with your toddler? If you think that’s normal OP then my guess is you’re a bit of a weirdo and maybe that’s why people avoided you?

StormyTeacups · 08/08/2021 13:07

Why on earth didn't you pick up toddler and move around yourself?

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