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Imtootired · 08/08/2021 12:30

I’ve been part of a group for a while. It’s a political party, mainstream left wing. I haven’t gone to events for a while. The local group I’m in is shutting down and there was a party last night. I’ve made some good friends through the group but I was never super involved, ie position or candidate but did volunteer a lot of time at different periods. The group is very cliquey.

A few years ago after an event me and my friend went back from an event and gave a lift to someone from the group and they came back to my place on the way to drop him off and we all chatted for ages until very late at night. I liked him as a friend but never had a thing for him. He friended me on Facebook recently and I added him to be polite even though I don’t usually like to add people I don’t know well.

That brings me back to last night. The event was at a private area of a bar. I went with my friend and brought my toddler along after ringing the bar earlier and checking it was safe and ok. I said hello to a few people I know and then I was sitting at a table and my toddler was perched very happily on a barstool so I had to stand next to him to keep him safe. I was by myself a few times and no one came up to chat, to say hello to my little one or to offer to get me a drink or food as I couldn’t easily move. My friends did at various times and most of the night was fine but I just found people ignoring me, by myself, really rude.

I’m now a regular member of a different group and we would never have done that!!! By the way it wasn’t strange that I was there if I’m in a different group now because it was for all past and present members. The guy who came to my house was standing by himself at one point and he awkwardly avoided looking at me and went to chat to a group. It was so rude. I am a single mum and it makes me feel as if he thinks I’m so desperate that if he talks to me I’ll be obsessed and in love with him.

He wants a future in politics and I’m tempted to message him and say that voters can generally sense if someone is genuine or a social climber and so maybe he should give up on it because he comes across as very shallow and fake. I won’t do that in case he’s recently had a death in the family or something like that, in which case I would come across very badly.

I got a coffee with a friend this morning, who is also part of the group but wasn’t there last night. I told her what happened and she said “was that ? He did the same thing to me!” But it was actually even ruder in her case.

If the group was still going to be around I might consider circulating a general message saying that it would be nice if the group had a more inclusive culture if they want to attract and, more importantly, keep new members.
AIBU for thinking people should be inclusive and friendly in groups?

OP posts:
Bakewellisntjustacake · 08/08/2021 17:27

Why would you take your toddler to an event like that? People are going to offer to get you food and drink because you chose to take your child to the pub.. go up to the bar you self and take them with you. You clearly have no issue taking your child out to the pub so why should people wait on you because you chose to bring a toddler?

vanityfairsbackpage · 08/08/2021 17:31

i DON’T like children which is why I don’t have any and why I don’t go to child friendly events. Which this evening clearly wasn’t. So what?

BeeOnADandelion · 08/08/2021 17:34

And I wasn’t on my own that long so I guess I can’t complain too much

No, just the six pages of it Hmm

TheGenealogist · 08/08/2021 17:47

Goes to a mixer and refuses to mix with people. Expects other people to proactively mix with her.

Ok then.

Bakewellisntjustacake · 08/08/2021 17:55

@TheGenealogist yes it's ridiculous isn't it? Yet another entitled parent

Spidey66 · 08/08/2021 18:00

Maybe would have been better off the baby was in a buggy. He could have napped in it and/or you could have mingled more bringing the buggy with you.

Malin52 · 08/08/2021 20:51

@Imtootired

I couldn’t really pick him up because he would have just started running around before I had a chance to say anything to anyway. I don’t expect people to read my mind and get me a plate of all my favourite foods immediately. And I don’t expect anyone to come up and start talking to my toddler. Just saying hello and asking about my involvement in the group would have been really nice. Some of you sound so resentful of giving someone else’s child a minute of your attention that it actually makes you seem as if you don’t like children very much at all. I’ve been to plenty of events without my kids but ended up chatting to people there with kids of the same age because I like children, and I’m familiar with their interests.
I don't like children. That's one reason I wouldn't have come to talk to you but aside from that the consensus is you don't bring a kid to an evening adults 'party' as you put it and especially one that has an intellectual topic of interest. It totally changes the dynamic. Some friends recently pitched up at another friends 40th with their toddler and the host was furious.

Rather than talking to you anyone is now thinking they now have to now engage in small talk about the infant... if you are the kind of especially entitled parent I'd be wondering exactly how long I'd be talking about the kid and how It could be before I could extricate myself.

brokenbiscuitsx · 09/08/2021 09:51

@Imtootired

I understand people don’t want to have to look after someone else’s child and no one wants to hear a crying child but I think it’s very sad that people in western cultures believe that children should be seperate and not included in events and celebrations. I think parties have much nicer atmospheres when families are included
I see what you’re saying OP but saying this is a Western thing is wrong as one side of my family has come from the sort of Southern European culture where kids are actively encouraged to be included in events and are always the focus/get the attention.

However for me it depends on the child. Some children can happily play without being entertained every second but some children are more demanding and you end up being babysitter and not enjoying the evening.

Also, if you’re around kids all day (or aren’t) wanting some adult time away from them doesn’t mean you’re a bad person/parent or that the culture is somehow wrong. It’s just different.

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