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Cruelty to children

502 replies

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 21:18

I’ve just read the absolutely tragic story of Kaylee-Jayde Priest. I’ve just been crying my eyes out this evening over the loss of her very short life. She has hair just like my daughter,

I’d really like some recommendations on charities and organisations that try to make a real difference in cases such as these, so that I may make a donation etc.

Rest in peace little girl, I hope you will find the kindness, love and compassion you so deserve in heaven.

Thank you

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StoneofDestiny · 05/08/2021 22:05

Maybe it will make everybody think than when they hear children crying and parents yelling on a regular basis, they should let the authorities know. Better safe than sorry.

SchrodingersMat · 05/08/2021 22:46

I have cried about her today too OP, and about the little five year old boy in Wales. It’s utterly heartbreaking, I can’t bear the thought that so many little kids must be living in these circumstances. NSPCC is a good charity to support.

TheSkatesOfCoachBombay · 05/08/2021 22:49

Victim Support is a great charity. They help victims and their families through the aftermath of offending and some of the keyworkers I know have been a lifeline to some families.

hagausb · 05/08/2021 22:54

I read the story and watched the cctv video and feel absolutely numb. How can they do this to their little daughter and the text messages about hitting her because she dirtied her nappy made me sick.

I would love to support vulnerable kids too. It seems like there are more and more of them .. not sure what is happening to the world ...

Gertie75 · 05/08/2021 22:57

It's really affected me too, I've got two young daughters and have given them an extra hug tonight.

Foobydoo · 05/08/2021 22:58

It's awful that poor little girl, hurt by the one person who should have protected her. I have just spent an hour in dd2s bedroom settling her for bed, she is nine so often takes herself to bed these days but I just wanted to hug her and chat to her.

gardeninggirl68 · 05/08/2021 23:00

i report the neighbours behind me too often

my ds who is 22 has reported them as well, his bedroom overlooks their garden and he see's violence (to mum).boyfriend shouts and swears at the girl, she's about 6/7 years old. other neighbours have reported too, including her former friend

police go round, mother denies, kid caught in the middle...now theres a newborn in the mix so the boyfriend has moved in. constant smell of weed wafting over the fence. not sure what else we can do, just waiting

OhGiveUp · 05/08/2021 23:05

It makes me very angry and upset when I read about things like this.
I just wish people like those could be bloody sterilised to prevent future pregnancy, both the male and female!
Why do such a wicked, evil thing? If the child is a nuisance, do the honourable thing and place it for adoption, anything but the inhumane cruelty.
Then for the charge to be reduced to manslaughter rather than murder beggars belief!
I would urge anyone who suspects that a child is being abused to do the decent thing, pick up the phone and report it.....and keep reporting it.
It's heartbreaking to think beautiful children are going through such cruelty.
Their terror and pain must be horrendous.
I despise people who abuse others and animals, they're lower than a snakes belly.

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 23:07

Thanks for reporting and being vigilant.

Ensuring children have a safe, secure and happy childhood could really prevent so many of society’s problems. This is why I really believe in supporting children’s charities, thanks for the suggestions so far. I will look into them properly when I feel a bit less shaken.

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FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 05/08/2021 23:10

Do you know what you can do, what we all can do - don't be afraid to speak out if you think this is happening to a child. Even if it's a suspicion or inkling, it could save a child like Kaylee-Jade. I work as a teacher and safeguarding obviously a big part of my job, never turn the other cheek, never think it's not worth the bother and if you do have suspicions, actively look out for signs of abuse. And call the NSPCC if you are unsure and need advice, you can also do a referral through them

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/08/2021 23:13

It’s always mum and mum’s boyfriend, isn’t it. Despicable piece of s**t cared more about getting laid and having a “fit” bloke dangling off her arm than she did in the welfare of her most treasured possession
Why have they only been charged with manslaughter and not murder. They kept putting their disgusting hands on that beautiful baby of course her poor little body and fighting spirit was only going to be able to take so much and give up.
I was going to say then. One consolation is we all know how other prisoners feel about child abusers and child killers. However they’ll probably be put quivering in protection. Who was there to protect little Kaylee-Jayde. Angry

Kylereese · 05/08/2021 23:13

I work/am involved in the care system and it’s heartbreaking. Particularly when people have child after child and their immediately removed as they won’t/don’t/can’t make changes to their lives, despite all the offers of helps and support.

I honestly believe in making these people have an implant (and developing a male one too before anyone starts, completely agree it’s not all down to the woman) or even sterilisation. It’s just not fair on the kids.

SchrodingersMat · 05/08/2021 23:14

Who are the 36% voting that you are being unreasonable to be upset by child cruelty?! Disgusting pricks.

FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop · 05/08/2021 23:15

Those text message exchanges are chilling

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/08/2021 23:17

Another disturbing and disgusting thing is
Up to now have 31% of posters saying YABU. Obviously child abuser lovers.

SecondCityShark · 05/08/2021 23:21

I know the video of the lift is only a snapshot but I think that's what that poor girl's life was like most of the time.

Her mum couldn't have been less interested. Well, in anybody who wasn't herself.

Queenie6655 · 05/08/2021 23:22

@gardeninggirl68

i report the neighbours behind me too often

my ds who is 22 has reported them as well, his bedroom overlooks their garden and he see's violence (to mum).boyfriend shouts and swears at the girl, she's about 6/7 years old. other neighbours have reported too, including her former friend

police go round, mother denies, kid caught in the middle...now theres a newborn in the mix so the boyfriend has moved in. constant smell of weed wafting over the fence. not sure what else we can do, just waiting

Ughhhhhh Whaaaat

Poor kids

Keep reporting
I can't get my head around how anyone could do this
Innocent kids

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 23:25

My heart is breaking for her, I’m in a very dark place and feeling very helpless. How could her grandmother not have known?!

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Itwontstopraining · 05/08/2021 23:30

I know it's not the same as giving money, but one of the best things you can do if you have children is to be supportive to the 'overlooked' children. Encouraging children to be kind to the ones who aren't popular, offering playdates to ones who don't reciprocate (anathema on mumsnet I know) or even just polite chat with the neighbours children. Many of the most useful safeguarding referrals come from members of the public who pick up on things/see things when 'professionals' aren't around. And it isn't just about watching for problems; children's resilience can be massively improved by a relationship with just one safe adult, which can be someone like a teacher but a neighbour or family friend or someone who just shows them some unconditional care and interest.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/08/2021 23:30

If I read it correctly her Grandmother did know and actually reported it to the SS who went round and took the mother by her word. I know it’s in a different place but the exact same thing happened with little Gabriel Fernandez, didn’t it. SS taking the word of parents Angry

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 23:31

Agreed. Thank you for articulating this very important message.

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jakeyboy1 · 05/08/2021 23:36

I saw this and the story of the boy in Wales and just thought what have we come to?

I read an article a while ago about how interventions were skewed in the parents interest. I don't know how true it is but with cases like these it is easy to believe.

wheresmymojo · 05/08/2021 23:37

@gardeninggirl68

i report the neighbours behind me too often

my ds who is 22 has reported them as well, his bedroom overlooks their garden and he see's violence (to mum).boyfriend shouts and swears at the girl, she's about 6/7 years old. other neighbours have reported too, including her former friend

police go round, mother denies, kid caught in the middle...now theres a newborn in the mix so the boyfriend has moved in. constant smell of weed wafting over the fence. not sure what else we can do, just waiting

Video the next incident on your phone - then there's evidence that doesn't rely on the mother giving a statement

Piccalino3 · 05/08/2021 23:37

I read about the death of poor little Kaylee this evening for the first time and I want to weep. The cruelty that poor little girl went through in her short life. Her death was awful, terrifying and barbaric but thinking about what her life must have been like makes me sick to my stomach. I hope she knew love. That poor poor little girl. I look at my young children and although I'm not a perfect parent by any means I just cannot imagine what she went through, the terror, pain and confusion. It absolutely breaks my heart.

Thinking of Kaylee, Logan and Amanda tonight. What evil monsters there are in the world.

hatgirl · 05/08/2021 23:47

Donating to charities does very little I'm afraid.

What you need to do is take your upset and anger and use it. tell your local councillors, tell your local MPs, tell your friends use your vote and demand that you only want to give it to a political party who really understands child safeguarding. Add your voice to a collective voice that says 'we have a problem'.

Children's free school meals, children centres, homestart, surestart, social work funding training, domestic violence funding, outreach funding etc should never be political footballs.

Sadly children will always die at the hands of people who are supposed to care for them. No matter what anyone does.

But some of those deaths are preventable and we should be doing everything we can to work with those families as best we can.

This case made the news this week, but on average 1 child and two women a week are murdered in the uk.

We have a problem.

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