Cruelty to children

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I’ve just read the absolutely tragic story of Kaylee-Jayde Priest. I’ve just been crying my eyes out this evening over the loss of her very short life. She has hair just like my daughter,

I’d really like some recommendations on charities and organisations that try to make a real difference in cases such as these, so that I may make a donation etc.

Rest in peace little girl, I hope you will find the kindness, love and compassion you so deserve in heaven.

Thank you

Let’s hope they get a “life” sentence today. Anything less will be an absolute travesty.

@PurpleCloak

I can’t stop thinking about her staring up at her “mother” in the lift, so innocently curious in what she was doing. And how not once did she talk or hold her hand out to be held etc. Awful awful

Yes. 😭 How can parents be so cruel?

@StoneofDestiny

Maybe it will make everybody think than when they hear children crying and parents yelling on a regular basis, they should let the authorities know. Better safe than sorry.

100% this …I would rather be a busy body than a lifetime of regret and guilt !

It’s always mum and mum’s boyfriend, isn’t it. Despicable piece of st cared more about getting laid and having a “fit” bloke dangling off her arm than she did in the welfare of her most treasured possession

So true. Some women are just scum. The most horrific cases I have heard are always the scum wanting a man over her child. Poor, poor baby. She was just a sweet girl.

I don’t really have any charity info or anything but I’ve worked with children my whole career, mostly in Early Years.

Children are testing and I’ve certainly got snappy, I don’t know any parent or child professional who hasn’t. But I just do not get how anyone can hurt someone so small, so defenceless and so trusting of you. I remember feeling this in the nursery, when new children I hardly knew came over for comfort, a hug or anything. They trusted me completely, I was a big person who in their eyes was a safe person.

I’ve had to deal with children being abused, children who have previously been abused, children who are just not their parents priority in the slightest…..my heart breaks. If I could just gather them all up and bring them home with me, the amount of children I would happily have just taken home with me at the end of the work day….

Crimes against children like that I honestly support life in prison without parole.

Not quite the note you were asking for but it got me thinking, do children’s homes want/ ask for donations of stuff for kids and teens? I know of a charity that sells bags and when you buy one, they give one to a child in care (mission to stop children having to carry their bringings in bin bags and give them their dignity back). I’m just trying to think of practical causes - the food bank is obvious but actually there’s other places that need things too. You’ve got me thinking.

How could her grandmother not have known?!

The extended family often appear bleating after thse ghastly tragedies.

Baby P had a Grandmother and Victoria C had parents.

They know, they don't care.

I am that annoying busy body and long may it continue.

Sadly children's social care is so chronically underfunded the threshold for support is incredibly high.

The little girl looking up at her mother in the lift would break your heart.

For a child to have a torn liver - that’s fucking barbaric.

There are children next to a family members house that are being neglected and abused, the father pulled one of the young girls who was crying indoors by her hair, he is routinely physical to the older boy too. My family member has recorded episodes and reported many times but the children are still within their care. My family member has also received abuse of the father, on many occasions. Incidents are reported but nothing has changed. Social Services is a failing service to at risk children, more needs to done.

@Isthisitforever that's the issue isn't it, you can report as much as you like but does anything ever get investigated?

Baby P had a Grandmother and Victoria C had parents.

They know, they don't care.

Don’t know about baby P, but Victoria C’s parents were in Africa. They let the aunt take her to the England as they were promised she could go to school and have more opportunities. The had no reason to not to believe it.

**Particularly when people have child after child and their immediately removed as they won’t/don’t/can’t make changes to their lives, despite all the offers of helps and support.

I honestly believe in making these people have an implant (and developing a male one too before anyone starts, completely agree it’s not all down to the woman) or even sterilisation. It’s just not fair on the kids.**

You are so right, I don't know how anyone could be against the prevention of more children being born into that.

The other sad thing is how often concerns are reported to social care and nothing is done.

Victoria C's parents were in Africa. The serious case review report (which is terrible reading, I wouldn't advise) notes it's somewhat common (or at least a known 'thing' ) in their country for extended relatives to take on a child if they live in Europe. I don't think it's fair to say they knew and didn't care, the report notes the opposite.

Pretty sure there's some data that statistically, the chances of childhood mortality increase quite sharply if they have a step parent, especially if the parent and step parent are younger. I think that doesn't show the whole picture - it won't just be having a step parent but also linked to family income, past trauma, stability of the relationship, criminality etc. It's horrible how many of these include stepfathers though.

@Immaculatemisconception

I’ve worked in child protection and it’s very upsetting knowing that this is the tip of the iceberg.

Next time someone posts for advice about what to do if they have worries about a child’s welfare and safety, you’ll see posters telling them to mind their own business.

Child cruelty is everywhere and it’s sickening.

I agree. Whenever someone posts a concern about a child the amount of posters saying 'mind your own business' etc is ridiculous. I'd never risk not reporting.

I am no expert on Victoria C and yes her parents entrusted her to family members.
I cannot belive that nobody, nobody saw that somethign was wrong.
Infact, I recall it being reported that the "family" were involved with a church and people were concerned. The child was starving.

After the event these friends and family crawl out and bleat on a bit.
Some feckless Dad or Step Dad....its pathetic.
Baby P had a Grandmother who claimed she was unaware of the situation.

People, including relatives, often report concerns. The threshold for removal of a child is high.

The next thread on here will be how social services steal pretty kids for adoption, and don't do enough to keep them with their parents.

If you really want to help, consider who you vote for in terms of how you want services funded, consider looking in to fostering, or even adopting.

Those of you who would take "all these kids home!" why don't you? Just take one, anyway? (It's hard, but worthwhile). One of the issues is lack of foster placements.

Or volunteer for home start or similar, and help improve parenting.

Stop assuming someone else will help if you report it- if you really care, help- vote wisely, volunteer, pay your taxes, write to your MP, foster.

Peter's grandfather claimed that fascist Barker had trained 17-month-old Peter to give the Nazi salute, and even to call him Hitler

But he couldn't be bothered to say anything?

I work in public protection.
I think Barnardos or Action for Children are better charities than NSPCC.
They both have pro active schemes in the community to encourage better parenting.
NSPCC helpline merely pass on info to police or social services they don’t actually go out and intervene

There's just simply not enough space and money in the system to take these children anywhere safe. If you google the costs of children being looked after, you'll get a surprise. It's a very lucrative bloody business. I know people opening children's homes. So infuriating to see people building up their wealth on the back of abused children.

Her own mother reported her to social services because of how she'd been treating her....... the real issue is the bar for removal in the uk is far too high. Concerns put by members of the family should be taken far more seriously. And the background of children who 'act out' (( the reason the father to her baby brother had stopped seeing her)) needs looking at a lot more closely.

That cctv footage is just chilling, the way she looked up into her mothers face and got nothing back is up there with one of the worst things i've seen. And the ones who should have stepped in did nothing.

@LeonoraFlorence

The little girl looking up at her mother in the lift would break your heart.

That snippet was heartbreaking. How could anyone be so cruel? Poor child

@hatgirl

I’ll never understand why people keep children (or pets) when they obviously don’t want them

It's not that simple. I could list all the theories (and there are many) but ultimately it boils down to there being a lot of very damaged and traumatised people being left to damage and traumatise others due to a lack of resources to attempt to break that cycle.

I do see that in some cases, but its not all, some people are just evil and sadistic and enjoy causing hurt and pain. I don't think we always need to search for a reason why the perpetrators did it, the fact that they did it, and should never be allowed freedom again to have any form of opportunity to do it again should be the main focus.

It is awful to read about such things. There are people walking about capable of killing helpless children. It is very depressing. Is it nature or nurture to blame?