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Cruelty to children

502 replies

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 21:18

I’ve just read the absolutely tragic story of Kaylee-Jayde Priest. I’ve just been crying my eyes out this evening over the loss of her very short life. She has hair just like my daughter,

I’d really like some recommendations on charities and organisations that try to make a real difference in cases such as these, so that I may make a donation etc.

Rest in peace little girl, I hope you will find the kindness, love and compassion you so deserve in heaven.

Thank you

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Houseofvelour · 11/08/2021 23:41

@Sleepyquest

I've read several stories about this case now and I don't know why I do it to myself because it makes me so upset. That poor little girl. Why didn't her grandparents intervene!? They must have known she wasn't happy at home. It's just so tragic. Hope the evil bastards rot in jail tbh
Same. I honestly don't know why I'm doing it to myself. It's too heartbreaking.

The mother is a narcissist and just pure evil. I hope she fucking rots.

Bunnycat101 · 12/08/2021 08:22

The thing that hit me about the Kaylee-Jade case was the text messages. They were so cold and violent. The messages seemed so cold and so normalised. The fact she had so many injuries is really heart braking. I also found the boyfriend’s dad’s statement abhorrent. Trying to defend his son by saying he got caught up and blaming the mother. They were both monsters. You don’t get ‘caught up’ in beating a child to death.

The Welsh case got me as well as I have a 5yo. The fact that the mother tried to cover it up astonishes me. I’m sure more will come out but it all seems so disturbing.

DeflatedGinDrinker · 12/08/2021 11:45

I'd not even heard about this before this thread. Just googled about her. Absolutely heart breaking.

Panickingpavlova · 12/08/2021 14:55

Bunny I agree, the texts show how harming that poor poor child was part of their usual chats.
It was an thing between them.

Hes pure evil that man pure, pure evil.

bloodywhitecat · 12/08/2021 15:25

Fostering is just about the hardest, yet most rewarding thing I have done. I grew up in an abusive home and spent time in and out of care, fostering is my way of making the things I went through better for a future generation. Fostering isn't for everyone and it is not something to be entered into lightly but if you do find yourself in a position, financially and emotionally, to be able to consider it the rewards are huge.

lollipoprainbow · 12/08/2021 17:01

I looked at the vile creatures Facebook page and it tells you all you need to know. Her cretinous relatives sticking up for her and telling people commenting about the little girl to 'f off you don't know how she died' clearly all lowlifes.

Nivealove · 12/08/2021 18:37

@lollipoprainbow

I looked at the vile creatures Facebook page and it tells you all you need to know. Her cretinous relatives sticking up for her and telling people commenting about the little girl to 'f off you don't know how she died' clearly all lowlifes.
Why did you go through the trouble to look through her Facebook page? Confused What she did was terrible, terrible- but spewing hate and insults is not going to bring the children back. Instead, raise awareness of child abuse, campaign for more support services for families.
lollipoprainbow · 12/08/2021 20:53

@Nivealove what I choose to look at and say is none of your business !!

bluewanda · 12/08/2021 22:06

I looked at the vile creatures Facebook page and it tells you all you need to know. Her cretinous relatives sticking up for her and telling people commenting about the little girl to 'f off you don't know how she died' clearly all lowlifes.

@lollipoprainbow seriously - is that really happening?! Makes me feel sick.

To Kaylee’s “mother” (inverted commas because she isn’t fit to be called by that name) - enjoy prison, you absolute monster.

Nivealove · 12/08/2021 22:09

[quote lollipoprainbow]@Nivealove what I choose to look at and say is none of your business !! [/quote]
Well then, you need to get a life!

secular39 · 12/08/2021 22:11

@lollipoprainbow

I looked at the vile creatures Facebook page and it tells you all you need to know. Her cretinous relatives sticking up for her and telling people commenting about the little girl to 'f off you don't know how she died' clearly all lowlifes.
I've had a look at her FB. To be fair though, the family made those comments a year ago and by that time, none really knew what happened and of course, the mother could have been twisting the stories. Since then, the family have refrained from making any further comments, especially after the revelation of her conviction.
lollipoprainbow · 12/08/2021 22:15

@secular39 thank you for your measured response.

bluewanda · 12/08/2021 22:22

@secular39 assuming what @lollipoprainbow has said is correct (I haven’t looked at the Facebook page and nor do I want to), telling people to F off when a little girl has died - really?! It seems like little Kaylee was the least of anyone’s concerns Sad

I honestly have so much anger about this whole case.

bluewanda · 12/08/2021 22:28

I’ve also had enough of the Mumsnet keyboard warriors claiming that no one is a monster, no one is evil, they just do monstrous and evil things, blah blah blah.

NO, this woman was an absolute monster, she and that vile boyfriend of hers abused and killed that poor, innocent little girl and it’s despicable beyond words. I hope they rot in hell, end of.

Sweetchocolatecandy · 12/08/2021 22:44

@bluewanda

I’ve also had enough of the Mumsnet keyboard warriors claiming that no one is a monster, no one is evil, they just do monstrous and evil things, blah blah blah.

NO, this woman was an absolute monster, she and that vile boyfriend of hers abused and killed that poor, innocent little girl and it’s despicable beyond words. I hope they rot in hell, end of.

I agree with you. It’s not just Mumsnet though, the judicial system has a lot to answer for. I’ve read a bit about the court case and it sickened me to read that the judge praised this woman for ‘showing remorse’ for her daughter’s death. Shame she didn’t show any remorse when her and her boyfriend were horrifically abusing that poor little girl over all of that time. It’s heartbreaking and I still can’t stop feeling upset about it.
designSalmon · 12/08/2021 22:49

@bloodywhitecat thank you for doing what you do. I’m sure having experienced it yourself gives you unique insight into what those kids are going through. Very few people have the guts or the patience to become foster parents. It’s an enormous undertaking if you really want to do it well.

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bluewanda · 12/08/2021 23:02

it sickened me to read that the judge praised this woman for ‘showing remorse’ for her daughter’s death

So “showing remorse” that your child has died at your own hands is worthy of praise now?!

bluewanda · 12/08/2021 23:05

I can’t help but feel like the little girl who was abused and killed is the least of anyone’s priorities. The monsters who killed her will be out and “rehabilitated” soon enough. They will almost certainly go on to have more kids.

If you kill someone and deny them a life, then why don’t YOU get life behind bars? Why doesn’t the sentence match the crime?

Panickingpavlova · 13/08/2021 08:42

I know blue Wanda.

I can't get my head around the fact that whilst abusing and not looking after one child she's had yet another and with a totally different dad, whilst with this dangerous evil bastard redfern and now she'll be out and be able to have more.

That what terrifies me.

DdraigGoch · 13/08/2021 20:57

I've had a look at her FB. To be fair though, the family made those comments a year ago and by that time, none really knew what happened and of course, the mother could have been twisting the stories.
@secular39 it just goes to illustrate the problem though. What chance has a child got when all of the "adults" just close ranks?

bluewanda · 13/08/2021 21:01

it just goes to illustrate the problem though. What chance has a child got when all of the "adults" just close ranks?

She must have been terrified on a daily basis Sad

midlandsmum2 · 14/08/2021 15:58

Now Leila picker has been arrested for
Death of her 3yr old son

Seems to be an epidemic ! Or are
Papers just reporting more often !

roxyro · 14/08/2021 20:50

Seems to be an epidemic ! Or are
Papers just reporting more often !

Unfortunately there was a guy sentenced the other day. He shook his 11 week old twin boys so hard one died and the other is brain damaged. He was only alone with them for 10 minutes and his partner was in the house. I believe he got 23 years for murder.

justwondering21 · 15/08/2021 09:23

I've worked in Child Protection for years and find this story heartbreaking but depressingly familiar.
Some solutions I can think would be;

  • Parenting Classes in High School similar to the programme they do in America. I don't think young girls have any understanding of how complex babies and small children are and how relentless the care of them is.
  • Benefits cut for those that don't get their children to school.
  • Nursery compulsory for 3 year olds similar to school. Nursery isn't compulsory and so it is much easier for children to be hidden.
  • Much more collaborative working between services. Some of these homes and families are so dangerous yet inexperienced SW's and HV's are going in on their own and being manipulated by families.
  • Much harsher parents who are found guilty of abuse. The law has changed which I think helped these 2 individuals get the sentence they got. Previously they may have walked by pointing the blame at each other (which is what happened in Baby Peter's case).

It's so complex but if we want fo live in society that protects it's most vulnerable then we need a government prepared to put time and effort into the early years.

justwondering21 · 15/08/2021 09:24
  • much harsher punishments.