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Cruelty to children

502 replies

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 21:18

I’ve just read the absolutely tragic story of Kaylee-Jayde Priest. I’ve just been crying my eyes out this evening over the loss of her very short life. She has hair just like my daughter,

I’d really like some recommendations on charities and organisations that try to make a real difference in cases such as these, so that I may make a donation etc.

Rest in peace little girl, I hope you will find the kindness, love and compassion you so deserve in heaven.

Thank you

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gordongrumpy · 06/08/2021 08:16

I agree with @OverByYer. Or better a local charity.

No normal foster carer is getting rich from caring. No adopters are getting rich from adoption (the opposite!).

Don't just post- do something. Even if that's just writing to your current MP about funding for children's services.

SimonJT · 06/08/2021 08:20

The threshold for effective action to be taken is high, my sons birth parent was on the radar of social services for around six years, during this time her children suffered physical abuse, emotional abuse and neglect, like many people the abuse her children suffered was worse when SS were part of their lives as she got a thrill out of getting away with it. Sadly her story is not unusual, there are thousands of children with birth parents like that.

People saying “mind your own business” “everyone shouts” etc are part of the problem. If you witness anything that worries you and you choose not to report, then you are actually part of the problem.

To improve the life chances of vulnerable children not only do we need an effective child protection service, but society as a whole needs to pull their finger out and actually bother reporting the abuse, neglect etc that they witness.

My son was failed by his birth parents, nursery workers, health visitor, GP, neighbours and social workers. Sadly his story isn’t at all unusual, neglect and abuse are so poorly dealt with its essentially legal.

TeenMinusTests · 06/08/2021 08:21

Many of these children are the ones who eventually end up in foster care or get adopted.
These are the children that then get left out at school because they don't fit in so well.
The children that 'you' say it is OK to leave out of party invites because they aren't in your child's friendship group (but because they aren't in any group end up with no invites, even if they are well behaved).
Compassion for these children doesn't stop at reporting or giving to charity. They are in schools with your children right now.

Herja · 06/08/2021 08:22

The poor wee girl had 68 injuries when she died, including 19 rib fractures. 19. Fucking montsters.

Seemingly, the mum got into this relationship mid May, by August they'd killed her. The mother states he was beating her 2 week into their relationship. Her own mother had reported her to SS, but the news report I read suggested this was when Kaylee was even younger, before the new boyfriend was on the scene - he probably wasn't even on anyone's radar yet. The poor wee girl had no lighbulb, curtains or carpet in her bedroom and her mam was believed when she claimed to be redecorating.

The way those malevolent fuckers spoke about the poor wee girl in their texts is heartbreaking. Whichever of them did it, they both deserve to rot. Scentencing today; I hope it's long and I hope they spend every fucking day in fear or in isolation.

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/08/2021 08:25

@CecilyP

Baby P had a Grandmother and Victoria C had parents.

They know, they don't care.

Don’t know about baby P, but Victoria C’s parents were in Africa. They let the aunt take her to the England as they were promised she could go to school and have more opportunities. The had no reason to not to believe it.

I think Baby P's grandmother was in Poland (unless I am thinking of another child).
MattDamon · 06/08/2021 08:27

Baby P and his sisters had regular contact with GPs, childcare providers, teachers, social workers, and their father (who shacked up with the mother when she was only 16 and he was in his 30s).

Rufus27 · 06/08/2021 08:34

I agree with @OverByYer I’m an adoptive mum. If people want to support, Barnardos and Action for Children are good options. I also really admire the work of the Timpson group.

gordongrumpy · 06/08/2021 08:36

Compassion for these children doesn't stop at reporting or giving to charity. They are in schools with your children right now.

OMG THIS! Children "rescued" from these situations are often treated without any empathy, compassion, or understanding, by those who would post here.

gordongrumpy · 06/08/2021 08:37

I love the Timpson Group. Everyone here- they give out free information to help you understand traumatised children. It's a great start.

OhGiveUp · 06/08/2021 08:38

In Victoria Climbie's case, I remember reading in the investigation report that a social worker who visited on a welfare check was so scared of the uncle that she refused to enter the property, so walked away without seeing her.
I mean really? REALLY!?!?!
So then why not ring the police to enter with you?
If you, a grown woman was frightened of the man, then how do you think that poor defenceless child felt?
Absolutely appalling.
Sadly, very sadly, right now as you're reading this post, more children are being beaten and abused.
God help them.

MattDamon · 06/08/2021 08:43

I think Baby P's grandmother was in Poland (unless I am thinking of another child).

Baby P's grandmother lived local. This article has some detail.

Kpo58 · 06/08/2021 08:44

Maybe there weren't any spare police officers. We have hardly any in this country now and it's easy to go for weeks without seeing one.

I'm also not sure what relatives can do. They report abuse and then are ignored. They can't just take the child as they would be forsed to give them back by the police and harrassed by the family.

sadperson16 · 06/08/2021 08:48

@MondieBee,apologies, I have no right to comment on Victoria's parents.They trusted family members.
It just in senses me.I do observe a pattern though, the bleating remorseful extended family.

sadperson16 · 06/08/2021 08:49

And a few quid from the gutter press for their bleating.

bluewanda · 06/08/2021 08:52

like many people the abuse her children suffered was worse when SS were part of their lives as she got a thrill out of getting away with it.

Seriously - I don’t often swear but what the fuck is wrong with these twisted people?

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/08/2021 08:53

@MattDamon

I think Baby P's grandmother was in Poland (unless I am thinking of another child).

Baby P's grandmother lived local. This article has some detail.

Fair enough. I am thinking of another child.
AbsolutelyPatsy · 06/08/2021 08:56

i knew a HV who literally forced her way in, foot in the door, to see the child.
what a star
he has now been rescued.

OhGiveUp · 06/08/2021 08:56

@Kpo58

The point is, she didn't even call them, whether there was one or a thousand, she didn't call them.
Instead she left a little girl in the hands of a man who she, the S. Worker, was terrified of.

gordongrumpy · 06/08/2021 08:57

what the fuck is wrong with these twisted people?

They were often failed as children themselves.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 06/08/2021 09:00

Charity is good and there are plenty to support.

You can campaign for more social workers to ensure children are kept safe.

You can report anything you hear/see, regardless of the mantra “it’s just a snapshot in a day” that I often hear.

sashh · 06/08/2021 09:01

I think Baby P's grandmother was in Poland (unless I am thinking of another child).

I think you mean Daniel Pelka. After his death there was a move to make it a legal requirement to report suspected abuse, it was rejected by government.

Not to derail the thread but Mairead Philpott is now out of prison.

PurpleCloak · 06/08/2021 09:03

Abuse typically follows through generations, it’s very hard to break the cycle. Explains why so many grandparents don’t get involved or do more - these abusers didn’t just decide one day that child abuse/neglect is normal, it’s very likely they are a product of their own upbringing to some extent.

CaptainMyCaptain · 06/08/2021 09:04

@sashh

I think Baby P's grandmother was in Poland (unless I am thinking of another child).

I think you mean Daniel Pelka. After his death there was a move to make it a legal requirement to report suspected abuse, it was rejected by government.

Not to derail the thread but Mairead Philpott is now out of prison.

That's the one. Thank you.
IrisAtwood · 06/08/2021 09:04

@jakeyboy1

I saw this and the story of the boy in Wales and just thought what have we come to?

I read an article a while ago about how interventions were skewed in the parents interest. I don't know how true it is but with cases like these it is easy to believe.

Unfortunately it isn’t a case of ‘what have we come to?’

This article details terrible cases including Dennis O’Neill from 1944 and that of Maria Colwell in 1973.

Heartbreaking.

My rule is if in doubt report.

IrisAtwood · 06/08/2021 09:05

Posted too soon - here is the article:

www.communitycare.co.uk/2007/01/10/what-have-we-learned-child-death-scandals-since-1944/