To think 'The Prince' US cartoon is too much?

[jozipozi31]

I couldn't find a thread about this but - there's a new cartoon series coming out, which is basically a bit like 'Southpark' but with the Royal Family as the focus.

I watched a bit of a taster. It has Prince George at its centre. And Charlotte. It's completely no holds barred and has literally appropriated these real people's,and children's, lives.

I don't care about US 'cool' media and piss-take culture. This is something so appalling to do. The children are under 10. Really, really what gives anyone the right to do that? And what the hell is wrong with Harry, I'm sorry, for having declared open season on his own family? His lead on this has made the way clear for this kind of 'creative' attack.

Worse than anything levelled even at Trump. To an entirely innocent and beautifully brought-up little boy, who is only just 8.

Too much.

I didn’t mean you specifically. I meant all people who are fans of the royal family.

but you cannot have a modern society where the future ruler is out of bound and people banned from making a joke... It's madness to actually demand for them to get an every more special status.

Who is demanding they are out of bounds - show me another celeb's child in a critical cartoon?
I hadn't even heard of this cartoon - it's the haters who seem to be obsessed imv.

@GreatAuntEmily

It happens to celebrity kids a lot. Off the top of my head both Blanket (Michael Jackson’s little boy) and Suri Cruise have appeared on South Park - neither particularly generous or pleasant depictions.

I’m sure there are others but I can’t think of any right off my head.

Trying to confuse it with bullying and abuse (which are already illegal...) is just hypocritical. @eightyfourandahalf

WTF Have you heard of JKRowling or Diane Abbott - bullying and abuse illegal - hahahahhah

It happens to celebrity kids a lot. Off the top of my head both Blanket (Michael Jackson’s little boy) and Suri Cruise have appeared on South Park - neither particularly generous or pleasant depictions.

So have Bill Gates and Barak Obama, I believe, a one off is hardly the same as a series with you as main character.

@GreatAuntEmily

but you cannot have a modern society where the future ruler is out of bound and people banned from making a joke... It's madness to actually demand for them to get an every more special status.

Who is demanding they are out of bounds - show me another celeb's child in a critical cartoon?
I hadn't even heard of this cartoon - it's the haters who seem to be obsessed imv.

he's not a "celeb" child, that's the point. He's the future King of England (however ridiculous that might sound). He's a political personality in his own right.

The whole concept is ludicrous.

Okay… so mocking a child in a one-off thirty minute episode is acceptable, but when it’s a multiple episode series it’s mean and unacceptable? Or is it because it’s this very special beautifully brought up little boy rather than some lesser celebrity child?

It’s just ridiculous. You can’t have every thing every way, selling photos of him to the press but expecting nobody else to use his image negatively.

Its hilarious 🤣

Do they sell their photos to the press???
A whole on going series with possibly several follow ups is quite different to a one off episode.
I don't think he's especially anything - I'd expect Kardashian children to be beautiful - no idea don't follow them.

They may not sell photos to the press, but it’s an open secret that the royals have a “special relationship” with the U.K. press. It’s access (so content that sells the papers and magazines) in exchange for good PR, hence the U.K. omertà over William’s affair.

It’s a well-oiled machine, and evidently people lap it up.

It's very obvious with Pippa: you can see when she has sold photos of a "candid" pap session and photos of her buggy and her are all over the tabloid, and then she can nicely disappear again until her next opening of an envelop

or when the Middleton are all photographed on a beach, "candidly" but limited to a 2 hours window during a 3 weeks holiday.

It's not a bad system.

The foreign press also publishes a lot more photos of the royals, children included, than you'll see in GB. You can google most of them, can be as innocent as George and Charlotte in a park.

The issue is when parents push the children in front of the camera to boost their rating!

Isn’t Pippa’s husband a billionaire or something? Why on earth would she need to sell pap photos. She seems quite happy out of the public eye these days.

@MoonlightWanderer

Isn’t Pippa’s husband a billionaire or something? Why on earth would she need to sell pap photos. She seems quite happy out of the public eye these days.

why do you think it's financial? Tamara Ecclestone is not especially poor!

Some people LIKE to be in the public eye, and prefer doing it on their own term - rather sensibly. Sell photos out and about in London, and the press pretend not to see the family slightly playing the "bubble guidelines" during the lockdown when they want to see each other.

Why do you think some outings require for the car to stop in the street in front of the local pap, but for others occasions, the cars are quietly going round the corner out of sight?

Did you actually read my post!? I said she seems happy out of the public eye these days. If she wanted more attention, she could easily get it. She doesn’t seem that bothered. The pap photos I’ve seen of her, she’s not wearing makeup or dressed very smartly. I think if you were calling for a pap shoot, you’d wear something a bit more attention grabbing.

Did you actually read my post!? I said she seems happy out of the public eye these days.

oh ok, if YOU said it, it must be true.

We'll just ignore the recent and various photo shoot taken candidly that pop in the press.

If you are one of those who look down at a woman not dress "smartly" enough or caked in make-up...

Of course they sell their photos/general image to the press. Why people feel the need to view pictures of George’s first day at school or Charlotte’s second birthday I don’t know but there’s a market for it.

Meh, I'm old enough to remember Spitting Image taking the piss out the Royals and the Sun running a delightful poll over whether its neanderthal readers would rather sleep with a goat or Sarah Ferguson. Huge stretch to blame M & H for this one.

I didn't think you were allowed to make a cartoon series about real people? Especially children.

Having seen the trailer, it does look very 'family guy' to me - which is pretty awful itself. But why does Prince George have an American accent?

Was it a conscious decision? As I remember it lady Di was extremely photogenic and, as the royals need to be seen out and about attending functions and opening hospitals as they have always done, the media, now with long lens cameras and a thriving newspaper and tv industry to supply , went bonkers.

The conscious decision to play the media game predated Diana by a few decades.

Philip pushed to make the monarchy 'relevant' and the members of the royal family 'human' by turning it all into a media spectacle, beginning with the coronation.

Well yes that's true. But it would have been 70 years ago - I don't think you can compare today's social media with that of 70 years ago. Or that anyone could have predicted the changes.

And that's why it was a really, really stupid idea to turn away from the century-old tradition of aloof invisibility in favour of hopping onto the tiger's back, with no apparent plan, no strategist to guide them.

It was an idea born of desperation in an age of social turmoil, and it wasn't thought through, perhaps because of arrogant assumptions that aristocratic amateurs would always manage to keep the upper hand. Now the RF finds itself starring in a circus of its own making.