To think 'The Prince' US cartoon is too much?

[jozipozi31]

I couldn't find a thread about this but - there's a new cartoon series coming out, which is basically a bit like 'Southpark' but with the Royal Family as the focus.

I watched a bit of a taster. It has Prince George at its centre. And Charlotte. It's completely no holds barred and has literally appropriated these real people's,and children's, lives.

I don't care about US 'cool' media and piss-take culture. This is something so appalling to do. The children are under 10. Really, really what gives anyone the right to do that? And what the hell is wrong with Harry, I'm sorry, for having declared open season on his own family? His lead on this has made the way clear for this kind of 'creative' attack.

Worse than anything levelled even at Trump. To an entirely innocent and beautifully brought-up little boy, who is only just 8.

Too much.

The more controversy and moaning about it, the more people will actually watch it...

@47PicsInRed

MistyGreenAndBlue

"Never liked Harry but surely he isn't behind this. Is he?"

Surely William isn't behind this. Is he?

Look, see? That works for anyone! Let's try other situations?

"Never liked Harry, but surely he wasn't an iceberg in 1912. Was he?"

Wow, we can solve all kinds of mysteries with such magic.

Harry's kids and family are in it too
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What point are you trying to make here?
The OP seemed to be suggesting that Harry had something to do with this. I was querying that as it seemed unlikely.

If you start confusing a satirical cartoon, or even a tv show like the Crown with a reality show or a documentary, there's not much hope left.

@Justcallmebebes

His new BF and neighbour, Orlando Bloom is one of the voiceovers. Plus some actress I've never heard of kicked off massively because her young daughter was snapped by the paps and "didn't ask to be in the spotlight". This woman voices Charlotte.

Plus Cringe and Whinge have kind of opened the doors to open season on the royals.

I do think it's out of order to focus on the kids which is what they are doing. I'm not sure any of you lot would appreciate a satirical cartoon featuring your v young kids which, royal or not, is what they are

So Harry and Meghan (which I assume is who you're referring to - and I'm sure would have nothing to say if people came up with such delightful epithets for the sainted other royals) are single-handedly responsible for The Windsors, Spitting Image, Private Eye and Punch?

It's always been open season on the royals, because, as a pp said, we don't live in bloody North Korea, and the whole concept of hereditary heads of state is utterly insane.

It’s not like South Park at all, it’s more like Family Guy, it has the same producers, same drawing style and even some of the same voice cast.

And from the clips online it looks well shit.

@PicsInRed what are you blethering about?
Just because someone said Harry wasn't behind it doesn't mean William was. It's not one or the other...it's neither

What a weird thing to post.

"beautifully brought-up little boy"

Fucking hell.

@plodalong12

It’s not like South Park at all, it’s more like Family Guy, it has the same producers, same drawing style and even some of the same voice cast.

And from the clips online it looks well shit.

It does look shit, I agree. Not a patch on The Windsors. But then, it is from the US perspective, and they are weirder about the royals than Brits are.

[quote Horehound]@PicsInRed what are you blethering about?
Just because someone said Harry wasn't behind it doesn't mean William was. It's not one or the other...it's neither

What a weird thing to post.[/quote]
I don't think either are responsible and it's bizarre of anyone to suggest that either are. That's the point.

It also goes without saying that it's revolting to target small children for even satirical mockery.

Ah we're all laughing at them anyway so..

The original Instagram version of this was massively targeted at Meghan with a very racist spin to it (the creator has done a lot of scrubbing since selling it for TV). Loads of self identified Cambridge supporters found it absolutely hilarious at the time. Apparently it’s not so funny when it’s targeting all the Royals.

I have no doubt that if H & M did say something, they would be seen as usurping the role of the parents. Surely it’s for K & W to say something if they have an issue not anyone else? I thought one of the problems people have with H & M was them overstepping and treading on K & W’s toes.

As for the suggestion that H & M opened the door to this sort of thing, Spitting Image (which has a very similar line of humour) started in 1984, the year Harry was born. It had a running joke that Charles desperately wanted the Queen dead. The suggestion that H & M opened the door to this sort of thing is easily disproved by the facts which show this sort of ‘humour’ long predates anything they did.

@eightyfourandahalf

If you start confusing a satirical cartoon, or even a tv show like the Crown with a reality show or a documentary, there's not much hope left.

Did you enjoy missing the point I was actually making?

ffs another thread that has to bash H&M.
wtf has it got to do with them.

@Samcro, didn’t you realise H&M are responsible for global warming, the Suez Canal blockage and the Gates’ divorce? (/s in case it wasn’t obvious).

Just watched the trailer. Didn’t laugh once, but I don’t see how George is a target for some terrible wrongdoing against him? Or Charlotte? It’s satire but from what I can see, the child characters are pretty tame and aren’t really being taken the piss out of? Kate, Meghan and William get off pretty lightly (in the trailer), Harry is portrayed as being thick, Charles as wishing he was king and the queen as immature and toddler like? Prince Phillip is done pretty dirty given how he’s been drawn…

All in all, it’s just regular piss taking of the royal family, and there’s plenty of that already. Spitting image for example. The Windsors…. I don’t understand the hysterical “think of the poor Prince and princess!”

Horehound

@PicsInRed what are you blethering about?
Just because someone said Harry wasn't behind it doesn't mean William was. It's not one or the other...it's neither

What a weird thing to post.

I don't think either are responsible and it's bizarre of anyone to suggest that either are. That's the point.
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But that was clearly NOT what I was saying.

Another day, another round of people desperately digging about for anything and everything to blame on Harry and Meghan...

I wonder if the hand wringers would be upset if the cartoon was about Archie and Lili instead of George and Charlotte?

I've seen the trailer and think it is appalling to include William and Kate's children. Anyone who is has a high profile will attract press attention but their children should be off limits whilst in education.

I've seen a few comments on social media regarding Sophie Turner, who is the voice of Princess Charlotte, and I agree that she is a hypocrite. She is very vocal about privacy for her own child but is happy to take money to ridicule a 6 year old. This doesn't sit right with me.

You might get more replies agreeing with you if you started a thread musing on Sarah, Duchess of York, referring to her ex-husband Andrew as a 'thoroughly good man'.

[quote Talia99]@Samcro, didn’t you realise H&M are responsible for global warming, the Suez Canal blockage and the Gates’ divorce? (/s in case it wasn’t obvious).[/quote]
and you do know that for all her innocent looks, Meghan knew perfectly well what she was doing for Charles and Diana to end up with a divorce...

and let's not dig too deep in the abdication of Edward VIII, it will all come out eventuall.

The royals have always been ridiculed. The children as the figureheads adds to the derision, it's mere satire and it's been done before.

They raise their children in the limelight, unfortunately it comes with the territory. Harry and William experienced similar as children, do we not remember their faces plastered across the tabloid, was that not the 80's equivalent?

The time Diana furiously dragged Harry away from a car window for sticking his tongue out at one of the paparazzi who did it first because the headline would be about how naughty he was?

For as long as the royals stay in power they will face ridicule. Harry has little influence over that, I would say the Crown adds more to that than he does. There was a spoof of the royal family a few years ago that featured William, Kate and Harry and I'm sure George was given a few gags. They are consistently derided as stupid and money hungry, that was a stereotype there long before Harry.

There is a huge hypocrisy around mental health in the media, one moment it's 'be kind' and the next it's 'nobody is above critique' - this is a perfect example.

They will argue this clearly isn't about the children and I imagine that media laws are in favour of the tv producers. The creators will have had to receive permission for this to go ahead to avoid lawsuits and the like, therefore by Harry speaking out he would just add further fuel to the fire.

If you don't like it sign one of the petitions going round but further perpetuating 'Harry did this, Harry did that' is simply drawing the royals, and by extension, the children into the spotlight. Similarly to the way speculation about Diana in 'she did this, she slept with him' she gave an interview to absolve the speculations and it only made it worse. Sometimes silence is the best course of action.

They feature the kids simply because it sells, if you don't like it, don't talk about it and don't watch it and hopefully others will do the same and the ratings will plummet enough to be cancelled. The constant blame game is pointless and last week's news.

@2LostSoulsSwimmingInAFishBowl

I wonder if the hand wringers would be upset if the cartoon was about Archie and Lili instead of George and Charlotte?

Quite. They would say it's just deserves because of what their Father has put them through.

@eightyfourandahalf, agreed - the RF has more than enough skeletons in their cupboards, most from long before Meghan came along.

She may have had plans to leave from the beginning as per the conspiracy theorists (I’m not in her confidence, I wouldn’t know) but all the RF and British media had to do to spike her guns was treat her well. If the response of absolutely everyone to her claims was ‘but you were treated fine’ she’d have real difficulty getting any traction. The reason H & M’s allegations are so damaging is because lots of people, particularly in the BAME communities have gone ‘yep, we see exactly what you mean - let us list examples we have personally observed’.

I find it really uncomfortable but sadly not surprising how many people think H & M exposing issues is the problem not the fact the issues existed in the first place. Even if you don’t accept everything they have to say, there is public evidence that a lot is correct.

@Talia99

The original Instagram version of this was massively targeted at Meghan with a very racist spin to it (the creator has done a lot of scrubbing since selling it for TV). Loads of self identified Cambridge supporters found it absolutely hilarious at the time. Apparently it’s not so funny when it’s targeting all the Royals.

I have no doubt that if H & M did say something, they would be seen as usurping the role of the parents. Surely it’s for K & W to say something if they have an issue not anyone else? I thought one of the problems people have with H & M was them overstepping and treading on K & W’s toes.

As for the suggestion that H & M opened the door to this sort of thing, Spitting Image (which has a very similar line of humour) started in 1984, the year Harry was born. It had a running joke that Charles desperately wanted the Queen dead. The suggestion that H & M opened the door to this sort of thing is easily disproved by the facts which show this sort of ‘humour’ long predates anything they did.

Thank you, I was literally going to write just that!