To think 'The Prince' US cartoon is too much?

[jozipozi31]

I couldn't find a thread about this but - there's a new cartoon series coming out, which is basically a bit like 'Southpark' but with the Royal Family as the focus.

I watched a bit of a taster. It has Prince George at its centre. And Charlotte. It's completely no holds barred and has literally appropriated these real people's,and children's, lives.

I don't care about US 'cool' media and piss-take culture. This is something so appalling to do. The children are under 10. Really, really what gives anyone the right to do that? And what the hell is wrong with Harry, I'm sorry, for having declared open season on his own family? His lead on this has made the way clear for this kind of 'creative' attack.

Worse than anything levelled even at Trump. To an entirely innocent and beautifully brought-up little boy, who is only just 8.

Too much.

Attempting to blame Harry and Meghan for something that is nothing to do with them is absolutely ludicrous.

@Handsoffstrikesagain

kanaloa But the children aren’t being asked to be put in the public eye. Therefore they should not be subjected to bullying in this way. People are making fun of children that have no control over their situation. Surely we can all recognise that is completely wrong?

That's exactly what's so obscene about the royals putting the children in the public eye. It's forcing them to become public figures without their consent - exactly the type of thing that Diana objected to, and that William and Harry have complained about in adulthood.

The children should have the choice whether or not to be royals, when they are old enough to make that decision for themselves, not have it foisted upon them in order to keep the whole ludicrous system going (because royal children and playing happy families sells well to the public).

That aside, I think it's ridiculous to call this cartoon bullying, when it's so obviously fiction. No sane person could possibly imagine the characters of the children bear any resemblance to real life.

@Handsoffstrikesagain

But they are benefiting from being in the public eye. I said I wouldn’t want it for my children, so wouldn’t put my children in that position. My children will also likely never sit in a special box at a football game or go on world tours at no personal cost. It’s a balance. Their parents have put them in the public eye and this is a possibility - much like the people who make ‘memes’ using pictures of the Kardashian children. I don’t personally support it but I don’t think you really have the space to complain when you benefit so massively and live in such extensive privilege that someone made a mean cartoon of you.

Well I won't watch it - I mean how much uk royal family can people want??
I don't think it will catch on much - why don't they make fun of the Biden or Ibamas?

One problem is Covid - the usual pia attention seeking celebs are doing b all apart for the occasional minimal wedding- hence constant drivel about royals. I think everyone will be royalled out before long.

A family which made a conscious decision five decades ago to turn itself into a media spectacle and entertainment commodity now finds itself bitten in the bum by the entertainment industry.
Well, well, well.

Are all the children it it? Including Archie and Lilibet?

A family which made a conscious decision five decades ago to turn itself into a media spectacle

Was it a conscious decision? As I remember it lady Di was extremely photogenic and, as the royals need to be seen out and about attending functions and opening hospitals as they have always done, the media, now with long lens cameras and a thriving newspaper and tv industry to supply , went bonkers.

We have occasional Royal visitors opening things here in rural Scotland, Anne, Charles and Camilla over the last year and ne'er a peep in the media except the local squeak. It's always been like this. So I think it's the media that's changed not the Royals.

Even the fuss over Harry - I mean well - Edward abdicated in the 1940s. Can hardly get a bigger scandal than that. There's always been stories to tell. Sadly for them it now interests the whole globe and there's a lot of money to be made from it. In fact that is the actual change - the money that can be made from reporting about them. Hence this endless carry on.

@Pinkcadillac

Are all the children it it? Including Archie and Lilibet?

No they're not in it, quelle susprise. If the writer is just so hilarious I'm sure he could have written a series without any of the children in, would still be weird and not my cup of tea, but not as gross.

Hmmm, well many children surprise their DPs by eg being excellent at a sport - you wouldn't hold them back as you didn't want them getting benefits from that like a seat at Wimbledon. It's easy to say what you would do when it is unlikely to happen.
Many celebs put their kids in the spotlight - the Beckhams, Kate Moss' daughter is modelling I think, Jerry Hall's daughter ? - I don't follow celebs but I'm sure there are many - the Royals have an obligation to be in the spotlight due to being Royals, there are many royal families in Europe but the UK ones get the criticism. Probably because they speak english, America isn't interested in Dutch or Spanish speakers.

Meant to quote @Kanaloa in the above comment.

@GreatAuntEmily

If my children as adults or older teens become involved in something that gives them these brilliant opportunities I would make them aware of the good and bad that goes with it and make that their choice. Bit different to presenting my child one week post birth for adoration on the basis of absolutely nothing.

As I said upthread, I’m not disputing that other celebs put their kids in the spotlight - however they are also often mocked, much like the Kardashian children/Blue Ivy often have their images used for ‘memes.’ If you want to make money off your kids, these things will happen.

Sorry, I’d let them make that choice I meant. Very different situation.

@Pinkcadillac

Are all the children it it? Including Archie and Lilibet?

I’ve seen a clip with Archie in it.

But then I don’t really think they have an ‘obligation’ as they are Royals. I find them a bit cringe really, and the idea of people being their fans embarrasses me in the same way I cringe when I hear people talking about Mrs Hinch as if she’s their friend.

Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying. Rich people deserve abuse - off with their heads!

No, I’m saying that if you put yourself and your kids out in the public eye and sell their image to fund an extravagant lifestyle you can’t be surprised when they are satirised/appear in pop culture. You can’t say ok everyone can use our child’s image and we can make money off of it but only when it’s positive, otherwise we don’t want it. It doesn’t work like that. I do feel sorry for the children because they don’t have a choice, but I don’t think you can have one without the other.

@Handsoffstrikesagain

kana the children have no choice! So if you were rich and had a box at the football that means it would be fine for your children to be mocked? Rich people deserve abuse?

No one is saying that,

but you cannot have a modern society where the future ruler is out of bound and people banned from making a joke... It's madness to actually demand for them to get an every more special status.

I am sorry, but I am team "charlie". We NEED the right to mock and ridicule any public figure. Trying to confuse it with bullying and abuse (which are already illegal...) is just hypocritical.

It's telling that the "fans" are only interested in defending the children when they feel there's a negative light, they never question the concept of hereditary monarchy, being told from babyhood that you will rule over the plebs (but god forbid you bring home the love of your life if mummy doesn't approve), and being thrown in the public eye when the parents need to boost their PR...

And I will say that as I don’t agree with it I don’t support it in any of my choices - I wouldn’t watch the Prince, and I wouldn’t buy a copy of Hello magazine plastered with George’s photo to celebrate his birthday. I think both are wrong, but his parents have made that choice for him, so I don’t think they can really be shocked about this cartoon.

I am just baffled why anyone who think it's acceptable to throw a child in front of the cameras on his first day at school (even if he had been more comfortable that this little boy was)

but only reacts because of a cartoon.

The fans are hungry for photos and made to feel they are part of the family, but so involved they like to be miffed on behalf of the royals.

The cartoon is a great idea, the pace is just too slow to make it entertaining, it's too contrived. Shame, they are missing a trick.

If you’re really so baffled and horrified the best way to stop this would be to utterly ignore the royal family. If there was no interest around them/fans of them then they wouldn’t be satirised.

So don’t like their pictures on Instagram, don’t rush out to buy a magazine showing Prince William on the hospital steps with his newborn baby being presented to people, don’t excitedly guess what the name of the new royal baby will be.

If you stop buying the magazines, people will stop taking the photos, interest in these people will die off and their little children won’t be satirised any more in the future generations.