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Step daughter's boyfriend wants to move in

240 replies

GiftOfGob · 04/08/2021 08:37

I am new to this so please bear with me!

My SD has asked whether her boyfriend can stay in our home from Mon to Fri while he's working an hour away (and away from the flat they share). He is already living away in the week in a shared house supplied by his boss. This is about the same distance as the crow flies as our home.

Although they've been living together for years, we barely know the man as relations with SD have always been strained since we got together and have never improved even though she is long an adult now.

We have young children under 12 and my OH works long hours.

On the one occasion we asked him to help us out as we were struggling, he let us down at short notice even though we had offered to pay him.

He has never helped out when he has visited or put his hand in his pocket and offer as much as a drink to my OH yet quite happy to accept meals, going for the most expensive meal on the menu. He has been outspoken about our house and my OH's relationship with his daughter. We only ever seem to hear from them when there's a problem or they want something, be it a loan, help with a mortgage, request for money, etc. BTW these are not young people starting out in life. She is 27 and he is 35 and earning a good wage.

We live in a high octane house and would not want anyone living here full time in the week, least of all someone I've only met a handful of times and barely know and it isn't like he doesn't have another option. I have suggested he can come stay a night once in a while to break up the house sharing which I think is a fair compromise.

SD is now getting abusive and insulting towards me which is her usual MO when she doesn't get her way. She is throwing that my OH stayed with them 3 times over a course of months into the mix, hardly 4 nights a week for months. He would at least buy dinner and food for them too.

Standing firm on this, just wanted to put out the feelers to see if there are any points I'm missing...

Hope this is clear. Thank you.

OP posts:
Cerebelle · 04/08/2021 14:06

It wouldn't be just a no from me. It would be a "LOL nope".

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 04/08/2021 14:25

Adult SD is abusive and insulting, wants her opinionated, unhelpful, annoying 35 year old freeloading boy friend to spend 4 nights a week at your house for unspecified lenght of time.

Hell no. Just keep repeating it. Let them have their meltdown, and get on with your own life.

Howshouldibehave · 04/08/2021 14:31

I've heard it used that way all my life, so I'm stunned that so many posters a) have never heard it before

Well, I am stunned that you are stunned.

I have never heard it used like this before. I thought it meant powerful, so makes no sense in this context. Busy would have been a far better and more appropriate choice of word.m if that’s what you meant.

Regardless-there is no way I would have this person staying in my house! Has she given any sort of reason as to why this should happen?

LuxOlente · 04/08/2021 14:32

No. Don't bring strange men to live in your young children's home.

A 35 year old man trying to move in with a family. That's just weird. What a joke of an adult.

BrozTito · 04/08/2021 15:11

So you laugh in her face and say no

tofutti · 04/08/2021 15:20

Busy would have been a far better and more appropriate choice of word.m if that’s what you meant.

OMG who gives a fuck, it's just a word! Well done for driving away yet another OP people.

2bazookas · 04/08/2021 15:37

"No, he can't stay here. We don't know or like him enough to want him around so much. "

" He's not compatible with us, so it's a no."

"he's made it clear he doesn't like us, so he can hardly expect to be invited to live here."

BrumCahoots · 04/08/2021 15:39

No way ! Stand firm OP ...

MzHz · 04/08/2021 15:40

@RampantIvy

Why can't the SD move out and go and live with him?
Sd herself doesn’t live with Op, Sd and sdbf share a flat at equal distance to bf work apparently
billy1966 · 04/08/2021 15:40

He is looking for a free place to stay with you as skivvy/cook.

What a CF.

GiftOfGob · 04/08/2021 16:22

Thank you to all of you that haven taken the time to respond positively to my post😊I have been overwhelmed at the number of responses!😁 It has been really helpful and cemented my gut feel on this.

Relations have been strained from the outset, as they have always been with SD and OH's family. She has severed all contact with them and refers to her GPs by their first name.

18 months before I met OH, SD and her Mum had moved in to OH's house to get her into the catchment school (having always lived in their own house out of catchment until then sitting empty). She then refused to move out. Agreeing only to leave if OH paid rent for 6 months which he foolishly did to keep the peace.
SD always wanted her Mum and Dad to get back together, as I'm sure I did when my own parents divorced.

Things got worse when we had our first child together and moved back into OHs house (we each had our own place when we met). Funny phone calls from SD and her friends, never ending requests from her mother for money, although OH was paying more than he needed to in maintenance and contributions to school trips, tech, etc. A far cry from the deprived upbringing she portrays. Emotionally maybe, financially most definitely not.

It was 18 months before I met SD. She would come for dinner once a week and things would be OK, even normal for a while, before her Mum started interfering. Some water under the bridge and fleeting moments of normality later, we no longer had to go through her mother for financial matters, we would go through SD. Sad truth was it was hard to tell the difference!

When she was a student, OH would credit her account every month to help her. My inlaws acted as guarantor for her student lodgings when her own mother wouldn't. She never returned the deposit to them!!! They even gave SD an old second hand car for free to help out and all they ever did was complain that it needed service and repairs! When things started to go well again and we felt we were turning a corner, we gave them money for flights to visit his family only for it to be p*ed up the wall which is when I started to wisen up.
I have always got them presents for birthdays and Christmas. The last Christmas they came here, empty handed, not even a 99p selection box for the kids, complaining we weren't going out for food, criticising our house! I have never given to receive, however think it is widely considered good manners to bring a bottle as a guest!

I have to point out I have no direct contact with SD. In the past I have sent messages from OH's phone to put her straight which only added fuel to the fire. I have appealed to her better nature over the years, saying life is too short (having lost my Dad when I was younger than her), unhealthy to keep blaming her Dad for everything and should move on with her life. She doesn't reciprocate his contact or remember birthdays or Father's Day. When he doesn't answer instantly he is a villain! He makes the 1.5 hour journey to see her even though he works long days and commutes 1.5 hours each way to work! There you go!

He rarely confronts her behaviour outright and is strangely stricter towards our own children which causes conflict of its own. Quite rightly, OH does need to grow a pair as I am tiring of all this conflict. She will not even refer to me by name, always 'your wife!'

Sadly she does not share her Dad's ethos to work. After meeting her boyfriend she dropped out of university and has drifted from dead end job to dead end job.

Has to have all latest tech, designer pets, etc. They have a newer, bigger car than me and our pets were rescue. Champagne tastes! I too grew up in a single parent household, only we were 4 kids on FSM, my Dad was long term unemployed then disabled. I did not expect the earth and certainly didn't expect my parents to provide it, they couldn't afford to. Then I left home at 18 and didn't look back, working hard to get on the property ladder.

I know this is an unusual and bizarre situation. I really struggle with the conflict in values. I have friends younger than him with 2 or 3 kids at home. We also know people younger than them who have got on the property ladder by sheer hard work and determination. Where there is the will...

OH is yet to break news. We are technically 30 mins closer to the job than the shared house which is paid for by his boss, allowing them to save for a deposit for a house. She wants to reach all the milestones, however not on her own merit, never quite unerstanding we make our own luck in this life,

OP posts:
Howshouldibehave · 04/08/2021 16:26

So, what reason has she given for wanting him to live in your house rather than the free shared house?

MzHz · 04/08/2021 16:30

Glad you’re back!

I still don’t get why moving to yours be a paid for house would influence what they want to do housing deposit wise.

What have you actually decided to say by way of a no?

And what was SD doing/saying when she turned abusive. Could that not be raised with her too that part of the reason you’re refusing this is because of her behaviour and abuse.

GiftOfGob · 04/08/2021 16:36

SD hasn't given a reason, details always on sketchy side...

Second guessing, it's cos he would get his own room here and not have to share with his co-workers...also turns out closer than shared house, however all his team would be doing the commute anyway...

OP posts:
Vanilla1Cookies · 04/08/2021 17:00

Why hasn’t your OH told her yet?

MzHz · 04/08/2021 17:00

That sounds plausible

Not your circus…. Not your monkeys

Just say no and let the chips fall as they may

SD brings NOTHING positive to your lives

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2021 17:01

OH is yet to break news

So what's he planning to tell her?

MzHz · 04/08/2021 17:02

May his room mate be the worlds most flatulent mega decibel snorer

pelosi · 04/08/2021 17:03

...and of course the free meals and the expectation of someone else picking up after him.

Do let us know their response, OP!

Duchess379 · 04/08/2021 17:10

Why don't they get a property closer to his job then? Yanbu to say no. Having another person 5 days a week living with you is hard work.

GiftOfGob · 04/08/2021 17:49

Thank you MzHz. Wise words!

Think OH is waiting for the dust to settle...again...until the next time.

SD's OH rotates from job to job. He has been staying in the shared house as he finds the 1.5 hour commute each way too tiring. Dee dums! My OH does the same 4 times a week and he is much older with young children!

We have declined their repeated requests for money/loans based on their track record. They won't even disclose where their money goes yet expect us to help unquestionably anyway. SD's OH has even said OH was in position to buy them a house, like SD's friend's parents have! Maybe their relationship is better! Even still, how will adult children ever learn to stand on their own two feet if their parents are the ones making it all happen? Give a man a fish, teach a man to fish...

This is just the latest in a long line of 'tests' and even though it's a No, doesn't stop them from asking again. They believe it's their right.

I just wish OH would see the light! Everyone else has, even our kids call out their behaviour!

OP posts:
CovidCorvid · 04/08/2021 18:00

Wow, they need to grow up.

Definitely say no. They've both treated you so rudely in the past. Even if you had a better relationship with the SD I wouldn't want a man I barely knew staying in my house. I'd just feel on edge and that I had to play host.

Once I'd left uni and bought my own house I'd have been embarrassed to be trying to get money off my parents to the extent they do with you/your OH. I stood on my own 2 feet, if I couldn't afford something I didn't have it.

BrozTito · 04/08/2021 18:01

To be fair i hate long commutes, but the very simple solution to that was to find local work or to move closer as i have done many times, yet im still younger than this waster

RedToothBrush · 04/08/2021 18:19

SD's OH has even said OH was in position to buy them a house, like SD's friend's parents have! Maybe their relationship is better!

He's THIRTY FIVE years old and he's asking his girlfriend's parents to buy him a house because her friend's parents have?

And he can't even be fucked to babysit for you?

Fuck that.

He definitely will treat you as a skivy to serve him meals, wash his clothes and wipe his arse.

A cocklodger who gets his girlfriend to demand off her parents.

Tell your OH to grow a spine and tell her or risk his relationship with you. This shouldn't even be up for discussion.

MyPantsAreTooTight · 04/08/2021 18:33

My money is on SD wanting someone to keep an eye on her bloke.

A few possible reasons:
He won't get up for work reliably, losing her money.
He spends too much on takeaways, losing her money.
He spends his money on booze or drugs, losing her money.
She thinks he is/will be sleeping around, losing her money in the long run when he falls for someone else.

I think the pair of them are all about the money, especially your SD.

Let them find their own way. Stop being kind to people who abuse you. Fuck the pair of them.