Can’t shake the feeling that something is weird/wrong?

[Hueylewisandtheviews]

Since the pandemic started really..it’s all seemed strange, some points I’ve convinced myself things are normal, but it’s there deep down bugging me. I just find it all so odd, the pushing of vaccines on young people for incentives, no real discussion being allowed apart from what is presented to us. Is this normal?! Or is it me that’s not 🤷🏻‍♀️Does anyone else feel like this?

Mummyford, fair points!

Is it proof @Geamhradh?

Did they test the same places prior to implementing the regime and what was the outcome? Covid-19 virus everywhere/Some of the high contact areas/A few..

The virus was just a catalyst to help the climate change agenda

I see your point. I think this pandemic has definitely accelerated our reliance on technology, businesses have benefited financially by moving staff to home working, many staff being replaced by technology and sections of industry moving online.
The older generations who were previously hesitant to use online shopping of banking have now been forced to learn how and will continue now.

Those changes are not the "reason" behind the virus but a consequence of a pandemic. As are the rising prices of air travel.

For a, lot of people including myself air travel and foreign holidays are out of reach anyway
I went on loads of foreign holidays in the 80,s we all travelled on my dads passport, before i even think about foreign holidays for me and my family i have to pay for four passports they are not that affordable for some people

@ConstanceGracy

This kind of bullshit can only come from someone who hasn’t lost a loved one from covid or known someone really ill from it. Believe the conspiracy theories of you really want to, can’t fix stupid.

Couldn't agree with you more.

I agree it's impossible to debate when presented with a theory that something's "off", a bit "weird".

We saw what happened in Italy when the pandemic first struck. We saw what happens in a well resourced, first world nation when a new, and deadly, virus arrives. My cousin lost her MIL in that first wave - real people, real losses. We saw the patients stacked up. Already you are all forgetting because we now have measures in place to mitigate the effects. We are taking precautions, we have the vaccinations - and it's working. Without all of that we would be back to bodies in freezer lorries.

I'm a computer scientist, I know the work that went into changing systems before the yr 2000 - and so systems didn't collapse and people said it had been a load of fuss about nothing. Erm, no. The work had been done to mitigate the effects of the bad code. Tons of work.

Human beings are always trying to find and make meaning - a few hundred years ago we would have all found it in religion, not listening to conspiracy theories on YouTube. The local priest would have been telling us exactly WHY the pandemic was happening, what the deeper meaning of it was. Probably god testing or punishing us. I'll stick with science.

I've lost a few relatives to covid last year but I also understand the ' deniers ' and the conspiracy theories too, as bizarre as that might sound!
It's sad it's caused more division though.

Do we think it's partly shaped by geography? I'm in the South West and I don't know one person who has lost a relative/friend to covid, touch wood, yet I often see people post here that they have lost several friends and family members.

Agree with the op. I've heard about conspiracy theories about the great reset, cashless society, social credit system blah blah blah and whilst they're obviously crazy nonsense I can't help but the get the feeling something else is at play here.

I don't think I'll be having my booster jab when offered, as I think it will then be never ending. I don't agree with vax passports on a domestic level or vaxxing kids either (covid vax)

I know of five people who have died from this virus. All were elderly with underlying health conditions apart from one who was a fit and healthy 48 year old.
I still understand why people are questioning it all though.

@EmergencyHydrangea

Human beings have evolved to see patterns and find meanings. Sometimes that glitches and we see patterns that don't exist and find meanings that aren't there

there was a film about this called A Beautiful Mind. also this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

@the80sweregreat

My opinion is this is more to do with climate change than the virus. I haven't any proof and I'm too tired to explain my opinion, but this is what I think. I feel unsettled about the future too op.

Doubt it.....all the single use plastic used for masks, covid tests, syringes, PPE......

@StylishMummy

With the sheer volume of people and companies involved in Covid, if 'something' was amiss, don't you think someone would've spoken out? This is an international issue, not specific to the U.K.

There are so many conspiracy theories out there, but this is a novel virus, that's bloody good at reproducing, and the government is responding as best they can. I don't see what's sinister about that

Lots of people are speaking out from doctors to politicians. I’m not from the U.K. and many different countries people are questioning everything on a large scale. You are clearly in denial.

A pandemic is not a unique event. They happen.

Do people believe every other pandemic in history, didn't really happen? Or that they did, but to cover up something else?

What are these things that pandemics cover up?

I think people who think 'there's more to it and its the governement controlling us' really need to look back at the footage from Italy in early March 2020 and the footage from out hospitals during taht period.

My kids were in Italy in March 2020. Managed to get them back here, only for them to have to quarantine with their dad for 2 weeks.

I understand people feel that if someone is to 'blame' it gives sense of self control.

I understand that if you haven't been effected, it probably feels like a huge over reaction. But if it hasn't impacted you in a pretty devastating way, count yourself lucky.

I have been separated from my kids, had months of only video calling my dad because he worked for the NHS and seeing him sinking deeper and deeper, lost people, had others in icu who thankfully survived, had to stand at the end of the street to pay respects to people who have died because we couldn't go their funeral.

Its like, in people's heads it was so long ago they don't remember it all or seem to have convinced themselves, that it wasnt that bad

I have noticed more shops becoming card payment only. I think it's just easier for them and because money is germy they've used our increased interest in hygiene to benefit themselves.

The only person that I know (indirectly) that dies of Covid was in their 90s, they went to hospital for a unrelated reason, then had double pneumonia, then had Covid, then died.

But can you really say that person died of Covid?

The main problem they had was being in their 90s, the second problem was the condition that admitted them to hospital, and the thing that really weakened them was having double pneumonia.

We are sleepwalking in to oblivion.

I was an atheist until six months ago, but there are such evil, nefarious agendas at play that it has made me believe in a higher power as the antithesis to the current narrative.

Yes I am aware how that sounds.

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

I have noticed more shops becoming card payment only. I think it's just easier for them and because money is germy they've used our increased interest in hygiene to benefit themselves.

I don't think it's a benefit. Shops have to pay fees when customers use cards.

Like must things in this pandemic, card payments favour big business at the expense of small businesses.

@ZednotZee

We are sleepwalking in to oblivion.

I was an atheist until six months ago, but there are such evil, nefarious agendas at play that it has made me believe in a higher power as the antithesis to the current narrative.

Yes I am aware how that sounds.

What do you mean by "oblivion" @ZednotZee? Some kind of end of days scenario?

Do you have a link for the oragami pattern you used - incase I ever need a tinfoil hat?

I've even thought this could be ' the end of the world' at some points especially in the very early days and seeing a Tory chancellor throw money around with abandon made me question it even more! Who knows though ?

seeing a Tory chancellor throw money around with abandon

I agree. It know it was ultimately to protect the economy but furlough was such a left-wing response , like something from a dystopian novel, that I was a bit thrown

What do you mean by "oblivion"@ZednotZee? Some kind of end of days scenario?

To be perfectly candid, yes.

I am also past caring how this opinion makes others view me.

As I said to DH on Saturday, I would never have had my DC had I been aware of current events and the obvious, to me at least, societal progression going forward.

I am so very envious of my former self and her naivete. I'm afraid the halcyon days are very much behind us.