Can’t shake the feeling that something is weird/wrong?

[Hueylewisandtheviews]

Since the pandemic started really..it’s all seemed strange, some points I’ve convinced myself things are normal, but it’s there deep down bugging me. I just find it all so odd, the pushing of vaccines on young people for incentives, no real discussion being allowed apart from what is presented to us. Is this normal?! Or is it me that’s not 🤷🏻‍♀️Does anyone else feel like this?

Omfg. Really? 🙄

@bearandowl

Yes OP, you are right. There is definitely something wrong - this is a cover for something much bigger going on behind the scenes

There are not enough eye rolls in my head for this utter nonsense! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

But frequent air travel is destroying the planet.

I'm not saying that the virus isn't real. It is and I'm glad they have a vaccine but once the governments realized the changes that could be made to flights and flying in general I think it became obvious how this could be ' controlled'
There is more being said about climate change now than there was even a few years ago.
Many countries often come together for talks and not all of it is documented, again, only my own opinion here! Getting people to alter their behavior is hard, this is a golden opportunity to bring things in ' because of covid '.

I dunno, the80sweregreat. I doubt governments across the world would forgo the enormous income and tax revenues that are reaped from international air travel and the tourist industry (even though it would be a good thing if we all flew less).

I think inconsistencies in govt behaviour are down to a mix of dealing with the unknown, so basing decisions on educated guesses, and general incompetence. Along with a fair bit of self interest (contracts for their mates etc).

I think people will fly less, the costs will go up and up and all the faff of testing etc will put people off. Planes are a huge contributor to climate change ( obs) and covid is a great excuse to bring in changes ( maybe over time)
Again, it's just my own opinion. I'm not on the know or even a covid denier , but governments have to tackle CC somehow.
Just my pennys worth.
Like the op, I worry about the future too.

I think that things maybe don't feel right because lots of people life essentially had the breaks put on . Everything we were used to changed we weren't going out we were not able to see family and friends everything non essential shut down kids were home and people were furloughed . This was a shock suddenly out life as we knew at just stopped we needed to adjust how we did things and now we are coming out the other side we need to adjust again and I think it probably feels very strange for some people

There's really nothing sinister going on (well, no more than usual anyway) it's a virus. A new one. People are scared. When people are scared they come up with all sorts in an attempt to feel in control or to make sense of it or even just to have someone to blame. Doesn't mean it's not just a new virus and absolute shit shows from government and the usual suspects seeking to profit from it.

As an aside, something like 8% of our DNA is bits of ancient viruses and I was reading the other day that about half our DNA is random crap that's thought to be viral in origin. Don't know how true that is but I do like the idea that the human race is a virus. 😁. Sort of.

Worry and uncertainty make people go a bit funny. It's a normal human virus hybrid response

Imagine that the government had sat back and done nothing - no safety measures, no vaccine, no lockdowns - and said Covid was "just like flu" or "didn't exist". You'd probably get an even odder feeling that something was up, like when elderly relatives started dropping like flies, or you couldn't get seen at hospitals. And conspiracy theories would abound!

It's a pandemic. Life is strange right now. But to be honest, nothing much has surprised me about the govt or public response (I'm including incompetence, confusion and corruption in that - not saying its all been handled brilliantly!)

@foxandbee

I dunno, the80sweregreat. I doubt governments across the world would forgo the enormous income and tax revenues that are reaped from international air travel and the tourist industry (even though it would be a good thing if we all flew less).

Exactly. I can not see countries that rely on international tourism to survive, join a task force to stop international travel. Makes zero sense. If they wanted to make people fly less then they wouldn’t invent a pandemic they’d just charge much more for flights until most are priced out!

If you had any idea how inefficient Government is, you would know they are nowhere near competent enough to orchestrate this. I have to go through about thirteen departments to get my expenses approved.

@DameSlapsSlap

Of course there is something bigger going on, I just don't know what yet.

All this madness for a virus that has something like a 99% survival rate, hmmm not suspicious at all.

Fuck me, can you count? A 1% death rate in a global pandemic means 10s of millions of deaths!

That feeling is completely normal garden variety anxiety.

Or possibly paranoia. If you're trotting out conspiracy theories, then that's paranoia.

I don’t think the pandemic is invented or anything OP but I feel strange too, and I think it’s because it has exacerbated tensions that were already there - the drivers for events like Brexit and climate change were already in motion and I feel that the political climate is very different now too. I don’t think things have gone back to ‘normal’ in the way we might have expected them to post-pandemic but hopefully we’ll work towards a more normal state of affairs in time. The lack of ability for international travel is concerning me at the moment and I think it’s creating tensions within the country relating to holidays and housing etc. I think we have to be vigilant about how far we trust our leaders and how they use these events though. I’ve been reading ‘Brave New World Revisited’ by Aldous Huxley and it’s alarmed me a little about how prescient it is!

History teaches us that pandemics happen.

In the 1300's between 1/3 to 1/2 of the population died of the plague.

Because this was beyond living memory, the public prefer conspiracy theories to reality.

The reality being the COVID pandemic is real. COVID might mutate and become less deadly OR it might mutate and become more deadly.

Vaccines save lives. They are not foolproof, there will be rare instances of harm, but the alternative, letting COVID rip, is unthinkable.

@Weirdwonders

I don’t think the pandemic is invented or anything OP but I feel strange too, and I think it’s because it has exacerbated tensions that were already there - the drivers for events like Brexit and climate change were already in motion and I feel that the political climate is very different now too. I don’t think things have gone back to ‘normal’ in the way we might have expected them to post-pandemic but hopefully we’ll work towards a more normal state of affairs in time. The lack of ability for international travel is concerning me at the moment and I think it’s creating tensions within the country relating to holidays and housing etc. I think we have to be vigilant about how far we trust our leaders and how they use these events though. I’ve been reading ‘Brave New World Revisited’ by Aldous Huxley and it’s alarmed me a little about how prescient it is!

It was prescient when it was written too, that's why it was written

@the80sweregreat I agree, I don’t see how it can survive, but are you saying it was done deliberately to ensure that?

I'm not sure really , I don't think the virus was done deliberately, but it has given governments a chance to bring in more restrictions and change our behavior around travel and flying.
I'm not a covid denier at all.

It’s definitely a topic that evokes a lot of deep thought.

Two things that have caught my attention just this week:

1. network rail did investigation on high contact areas of their trains/network. Not one covid-19 virus found.. anywhere. None. People are washing their mail, wearing gloves in public areas, being too petrified to touch anything outside their home. There’s nothing there.

2. our large nursery with 63 tiny humans running around dribbling on each other, going home and spending time with (probably, assuming no siblings) 63 families then going back in and sharing all that the next day with each other and the staff (no makes or social distancing). They have had two, yes TWO cases of covid. In 7.5 months.

Now epidemiology/virology isn’t anywhere near my expertise or interest so when they all screamed ‘be scared’ ‘be afraid’ ‘this virus is hugely contagious’ I just listened and accepted. There are things happening every week that make me think.. ‘hang on ’

@ConstanceGracy

It does seem easier to believe it’s a conspiracy as it means this isn’t real, there’s no danger and everything is actually ok once the government see “we” aren’t buying it. I kind of wish I could believe that twaddle as I’d sleep better !!

I agree. I think it's not only naive but breathtakingly arrogant to claim the entire pandemic is orchestrated by man.

Op you have anxiety; an irrational feeling of unease. Looking for reasons to validate generalised anxiety is ill advised.

If the 19 patients on our ITU this week, 17 were unvaccinated. And they are younger than in previous waves (as Young as 20s)
That’s 17 ITU beds that are not available if someone I care about has a stroke, heart attack or has a car crash and has massive trauma. They were potentially preventable.

@FTEngineerM

It’s definitely a topic that evokes a lot of deep thought.

Two things that have caught my attention just this week:

1. network rail did investigation on high contact areas of their trains/network. Not one covid-19 virus found.. anywhere. None. People are washing their mail, wearing gloves in public areas, being too petrified to touch anything outside their home. There’s nothing there.

2. our large nursery with 63 tiny humans running around dribbling on each other, going home and spending time with (probably, assuming no siblings) 63 families then going back in and sharing all that the next day with each other and the staff (no makes or social distancing). They have had two, yes TWO cases of covid. In 7.5 months.

Now epidemiology/virology isn’t anywhere near my expertise or interest so when they all screamed ‘be scared’ ‘be afraid’ ‘this virus is hugely contagious’ I just listened and accepted. There are things happening every week that make me think.. ‘hang on ’

That's good about the Network Rail measures in place working.

Here's what the BBC article says:

Rob Mole, senior programme manager for Network Rail's response to the pandemic, said the test results were "proof" the "dedicated approach" by station cleaning teams and train staff to keep passengers safe had worked.

He added that staff would continue "doing our part by rigorously cleaning trains and stations" and asked passengers to "do their bit" by continuing to wear face coverings while travelling.

Fastidious cleaning, sanitising and mask wearing has worked.

The virus was just a catalyst to help the Climate change agenda.
I'm not a denier at all , but without this virus fo you think people would followed any rules to help us with CC which will be worse than the pandemic is? We are ( sort of) used to restrictions now. Changing habits for the greater good may be a easier to ' sell ' to a public who may not believe that CC even exists?
It is just a theory of mine , I know nothing at all , but the two being linked isn't such an odd thing if you think of both of these things in tandem?
I can see a connection there even if it's only in my own head.

What patronising and superior responses from some which offer no room for debate. Just generally parroting aged and nonsensical cliches. Exactly why people feel the way of the OP.