Can’t shake the feeling that something is weird/wrong?

[Hueylewisandtheviews]

Since the pandemic started really..it’s all seemed strange, some points I’ve convinced myself things are normal, but it’s there deep down bugging me. I just find it all so odd, the pushing of vaccines on young people for incentives, no real discussion being allowed apart from what is presented to us. Is this normal?! Or is it me that’s not 🤷🏻‍♀️Does anyone else feel like this?

Because you are putting religion before science, and rambling on about Satan like a deranged person.

In what tangible way have I 'put religion before science?'

I simply stated that unwavering belief in science is tantamount to worship of a false idol.

I do not believe in science, it is not a belief system.

It is helpful and I am pleased with scientific advancements which have benefited humanity but I don't believe every single thing which is touted in the name of science.

There are many things which science cannot as yet explain, nor account for. I do not have blind belief in something simply because it is currently the view of a majority of scientists.

Science is not infallible.

It is not deserving of my faith.

@ZednotZee

We are sleepwalking in to oblivion.

I was an atheist until six months ago, but there are such evil, nefarious agendas at play that it has made me believe in a higher power as the antithesis to the current narrative.

Yes I am aware how that sounds.

But you were a Catholic, you said, nine months ago.

Anyway, the Book of Revelation... Can be fitted to apply to any time and age of man, and the End Times have been on the horizon four times, intensely, already in my lifetime.

It also sounds as if you've been taking a shot of David Icke with your new Bible studies.

I hope you find peace some time soon, and simmer down.

I was baptised Catholic.
My parents are Jewish/Catholic.

I have never put my faith in Catholicism purely because of the problem of the papacy.

Is David Icke a Christian? I thought he was a blasphemer who stated that he was the son of God.

And I will tell you that I have never felt so peaceful as within the past six months.

This is all now entirely out of our hands. If people can wake up and turn to Christ then I believe that this will be helpful to them.

As a society we will continue to proceed in to oblivion as this is what was prophesied. We are in the times of tribulation but there is peace within Christ in recognising that fact and that all is unfolding as it should be.

Not today though Satan.
Not today.

@sst1234

There is always something bigger at play. Stuff doesn’t just happen by chance. And it’s not just about this pandemic but all big events in history. Only the naive think struggle to think beyond the obvious. But of course they also take pleasure in calling anyone with a different view a conspiracy theorist or other names. It’s not about believing in aliens, it’s just about knowing that there is always something bigger at play.

Just as you enjoy calling anyone who doesn’t agree with you naive, or as others often do: sheeples and equally derogatory terms.

I hope you're not talking to your patients about "Satan".

I hope you're not talking to your patients about "Satan".

Why ever would you think that I would I engage in a religious discussion with my patients?

Jesus Wept. Religious views should impact wether you work in health care or not.

But if my health care provider was convinced it was the end times and we should all turn to christ to help us, I wouldn't be comfortable with them treating me.

I had a fully Catholic education up until 18. I studied theology until I was 22. O was brought up a Catholic but I am no longer Catholic and yes the end times, Satan's greatest trick etc would make me uncomfortable.

As does the lack of actual studying of the Bible. But I expect most people aren't aware of your beliefs. Thankfully.

Religious views should impact whether you work in healthcare?

Really? In what way exactly?

Maybe a poop? Constipation

And will it hit the fan?

@ZednotZee

I hope you're not talking to your patients about "Satan".

Why ever would you think that I would I engage in a religious discussion with my patients?

People with extreme views often do.

@ZednotZee So..what is going to happen and when?

@DameSlapsSlap

Of course there is something bigger going on, I just don't know what yet.

All this madness for a virus that has something like a 99% survival rate, hmmm not suspicious at all.

What scares me are opinions like this.

Not from crackpot conspiracy theorists, but from everyday people.

I mean, the ' madness' is because the hospitals and NHS resources couldn't cope with the number of patience needing critical care - or were they lying? The virus has barely been contained, despite all the measures that have been taken. It would be absolute carnage if there wasn't any lockdowns or vaccinations.

Still, you get bizarre points of view like yours.

As I say , this is what worries me; the pandemic has revealed a selfishness and ignorance in people that would have stayed hidden otherwise.

@ZednotZee

Religious views should impact whether you work in healthcare?

Really? In what way exactly?

Because the religion of your patient is also important. The lack of religion is important too.

You believe if you don't believe in Satan you are supporting his almighty trick. I don't want someone looking after my health that believes that about me.

My religion is often viewed as dirty or satanic or evil. Because people don't understand it. So yes, someone who believes I am choosing to stand with the devil and that's helping bring about the end of days, also looking after my life concerns me.

Which I am entitled to be concerned about.

@Hekatestorch

I don't believe that anybody is in support of Satan, other than those who are cognisant of doing so.

My beliefs include, as im sure you can imagine an unwavering love of my fellow man.
Jesus was not a being of condemnation and I am trying my human best to model myself in his image.

I don't consider my beliefs to render me unsuitable to care for the health of others, quite the opposite in fact.

Also, if you align yourself with satanism/luciferianism I don't expect that you would tell me during the course of my work.

Even if you did, I would simply pray for you and say nothing about my counter views, as our meeting would be in a professional capacity and I am there to care for you in the absence of judgement irrespective of my personal belief or indeed lack thereof.

I work in the NHS. I have lost 6 colleagues to Covid. SIX. Not elderly people, not ill people. Middle aged. With children. Every single one of them had school age children.

I have so many colleagues and friends who's lives have been ripped apart by long covid.

I have watched people dying of covid on wards. I've seen staff terrified by having to, almost over night, change the role they work in to front line nursing. Spend hours practicing donning and doffing of PPE. Staff who have barely had a break for 18 months. This is the first time in 20 years in the NHS they have paid for unused annual leave as everyone had so much left in April of this year.

I've seen support staff breaking down with exhaustion because of the hours they're having to work.

Don't let anyone tell you the NHS wasn't overwhelmed. It was. It coped. Just. And that was down to insane levels of work from staff.

Everyone I know has that "oh god, something terrible is about to happen" feeling. It's called general anxiety. It's to be expected during a time like the one we are living through.

I think the many, many mistakes made, and the abysmal leadership we have lived through, will all come to light. Eventually. Too many people still think Boris is amazing and wonderful at the moment for it to come to the fore yet though. Hmm.

[quote ZednotZee]@Hekatestorch

I don't believe that anybody is in support of Satan, other than those who are cognisant of doing so.

My beliefs include, as im sure you can imagine an unwavering love of my fellow man.
Jesus was not a being of condemnation and I am trying my human best to model myself in his image.

I don't consider my beliefs to render me unsuitable to care for the health of others, quite the opposite in fact.[/quote]
But you do. You believe the greatest trick Satan ever pulled off was making the world believe he wasn't real.

He isn't real in a huge amount of religions. Most that predate the Catholic bible.

By people refusing to believe in the devil and turning to christ for peace and salvation, they are assisting the Devil, surely?

Why would he have gone to so much trouble, to convince us all he didn't exist, if it didn't benefit him. So people who don't believe are contributing to his success?

So yes, I would not want to put my health or life in the hands of someone who believes people who don't believe in the devil, are assisting his plan.

Again, that's my right to do so.

I am going to presume you don't talk about these things to your boss.

@ZednotZee

*Why would it be a bad thing for me to work in healthcare?

Because I believe we are currently experiencing the tribulations as prophesiedbythe insane ramblings of possibly mentally unwell men, translated and rewritten multiple times, from and to multiple languages, and often edited to fit wit^^h thecontemporary legal, political and cultural convictions of the timescriptureFixed that for you!*

Disregarding your rudeness as its irrelevant in any case....

You think I shouldn't work in healthcare because of my religious belief?

I'm not rude. I'm stating a perfectly reasonable understanding of the development and evolution of the bible.

I certainly wouldn't be comfortable being given medical treatment by someone who believes my heart belongs to satan and that secularism is some huge evil. Certainly sounds more unpleasant than some of the actual satanists I've met.

So yes, I would not want to put my health or life in the hands of someone who believes people who don't believe in the devil, are assisting his plan.

As I have explained the only people who are assisting Satan are aware that they are doing so.
Even then I would pray to Jesus for their deliverance from evil.

Being fooled by Satan is not tantamount to acting in support of him in any case.

However if you have an issue with my religious belief that is your perogative entirely but it is not because I judge you as in league with Satan simply because you do not believe in his existence.

I certainly wouldn't be comfortable being given medical treatment by someone who believes my heart belongs to satan and that secularism is some huge evil. Certainly sounds more unpleasant than some of the actual satanists I've met.

Understandable.

Unsure how that relates to my position though.

@ZednotZee But what are you saying is going to happen??

@ZednotZee

So yes, I would not want to put my health or life in the hands of someone who believes people who don't believe in the devil, are assisting his plan.

As I have explained the only people who are assisting Satan are aware that they are doing so.
Even then I would pray to Jesus for their deliverance from evil.

Being fooled by Satan is not tantamount to acting in support of him in any case.

However if you have an issue with my religious belief that is your perogative entirely but it is not because I judge you as in league with Satan simply because you do not believe in his existence.

Whoa, exactly proving my point. I don't want anyone praying for my deliverance. Many people don't. Especially from HCP.

That's exactly the point. You presume people like me, need deliverance. We don't.

OK so you don't think not believing in Satan, isn't the same as supporting him. Except that going along with his lie, is aiding him. But you think the people who haven't realised that Satan is real are what? Dim? Not quite as intelligent as you?

Why do you think they just haven't realised? I have spent 18 years of my life studying g the bible. But you decide you are right (although you don't seem to have a clue about the academics who put the bible together) and I must be just misled? Not enlightened enough?

That's why it would make me uncomfortable.

@ZednotZee

I certainly wouldn't be comfortable being given medical treatment by someone who believes my heart belongs to satan and that secularism is some huge evil. Certainly sounds more unpleasant than some of the actual satanists I've met.

Understandable.

Unsure how that relates to my position though.

Considering that you said secularism is a trick by the devil and that Satan has the hearts and minds of most people I'd say it relates quite a lot.

@Hueylewisandtheviews

You must understand that I'm merely a human believer and that I can't know the future.

What is it that you are asking me to tell you?