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AIBU for not giving my friend a lift home?

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Acey68 · 26/07/2021 20:05

My friend and I were at a mutual friends house to watch the WC final. I drove as I don't live too close (30 mins drive or so). My other friend lives a 15 minute bus ride away in the opposite direction to me and caught the bus there. She doesn't drive and planned to get an Uber home back to hers at the end of the night.
When the game finished and she attempted to get a taxi she noticed that the surcharge meant the taxi fare had doubled it's usual price. She asked me if I would mind giving her a lift home due to this, as she didn't want to pay the pricey taxi fare.
I said that I didn't really feel comfortable driving her home as I had 2 small glasses of wine over the course of the evening with a dinner, so was in that grey area where I was likely fine (felt fine) but for me I didn't want to spend longer in the car then I had to, just in case. She lives very centrally in the middle of a main high street with lots of pubs, bars and drunk people inevitably falling out of them and probably a higher police presence and traffic after the game and taking her home would have added 30 mins to my journey time.
I just wanted to get on the road and head back. I told her I would give her a lift to the bus stop and wait with her (once on the bus it takes her to her door in the middle of the high street she lives on, so no long walks) or offered to go halves on the taxi with her which she refused as she said the price was ridiculous and she wouldn't take my money for it.
She's been very off with me since and it came out the other day how disappointed with me, I am a selfish friend, she doesn't buy the excuse I gave, this shows I am only interested in myself and not helping others etc etc
As far as I see a lift is a favour not to be expected, and found myself having to justify why I didn't want to take her home. (She caught the bus in the end and it was fine)
We had a big fight and I'm upset and questioning myself now. AIBU?

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brokenbiscuitsx · 26/07/2021 22:50

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Jaxhog · 26/07/2021 22:55

YABU to have had 2 glasses of wine and then driven anywhere.
YANBU to refuse to drive your friend home if she lived in the opposite direction. I bet she didn't offer to contribute to the petrol! It's one thing to offer, it's quite another to ask and then get stroppy about a refusal.

CrazyDogWoman · 26/07/2021 22:59

To be honest I don’t think anybody should be driving regardless of how much alcohol they’ve had.

YABU for driving. You should have arranged a taxi or a lift for yourself never mind your friend.

mashawithbear · 26/07/2021 23:02

Yabu
I'll never forget a friend who left us in the restaurant, she drives past our house to get to her house and still refused to give us a lift. She said she needs to get home as her dh is waiting fir her, honestly even if she dropped us off on one of the red lights on her way would have been fine! She just didn't want to, I couldn't believe the cheek seen as she sis driving past our houses.
I've never been the same with her since. She's selfish and immature.

HalzTangz · 26/07/2021 23:07

@Acey68

My friend and I were at a mutual friends house to watch the WC final. I drove as I don't live too close (30 mins drive or so). My other friend lives a 15 minute bus ride away in the opposite direction to me and caught the bus there. She doesn't drive and planned to get an Uber home back to hers at the end of the night. When the game finished and she attempted to get a taxi she noticed that the surcharge meant the taxi fare had doubled it's usual price. She asked me if I would mind giving her a lift home due to this, as she didn't want to pay the pricey taxi fare. I said that I didn't really feel comfortable driving her home as I had 2 small glasses of wine over the course of the evening with a dinner, so was in that grey area where I was likely fine (felt fine) but for me I didn't want to spend longer in the car then I had to, just in case. She lives very centrally in the middle of a main high street with lots of pubs, bars and drunk people inevitably falling out of them and probably a higher police presence and traffic after the game and taking her home would have added 30 mins to my journey time. I just wanted to get on the road and head back. I told her I would give her a lift to the bus stop and wait with her (once on the bus it takes her to her door in the middle of the high street she lives on, so no long walks) or offered to go halves on the taxi with her which she refused as she said the price was ridiculous and she wouldn't take my money for it. She's been very off with me since and it came out the other day how disappointed with me, I am a selfish friend, she doesn't buy the excuse I gave, this shows I am only interested in myself and not helping others etc etc As far as I see a lift is a favour not to be expected, and found myself having to justify why I didn't want to take her home. (She caught the bus in the end and it was fine) We had a big fight and I'm upset and questioning myself now. AIBU?
So you made excuses.

If you were in the gray area alcohol wise, you shouldn't have driven at all (not to yours or hers)

I'm sorry but you are selfish

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 26/07/2021 23:08

I don’t think you were U for not giving her a lift. I do think you were U for drink driving.

I personally wouldn’t drink at all and drive.

Vitallyli · 26/07/2021 23:10

You can be under the limit but tired especially late at night and not wanting to take unfamiliar route that adds time to your journey and would rather go straight home.

2pinkginsplease · 26/07/2021 23:11

Yabu for drinking and driving.
Yabu for leaving a friend to get the bus home.

I would always make sure a friend got home safe on a night out and I'd never have any alcoholic drink then drive! Totally irresponsible!

HalzTangz · 26/07/2021 23:12

@Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow

I would always give a friend a lift home. Driving isn't really a chore, the car does the work for you. I wouldn't like to think of my friend on the bus late at night when i could give her a lift

The wine is such a rubbish excuse.

I agree with this.

Especially with how men target lone women. I'd want to make sure my friend got home safe even of it was a longer journey for me

Timeisavirtue · 26/07/2021 23:17

To be fair she doesn’t owe her an explanation whatsoever, answer is no end of....

ilovesooty · 26/07/2021 23:18

@PurpleHoodie

"Drink drive for your friend, plus yourself for the extra miles = good stuff"

V

"Drink drive for yourself = evil"

Crazy stuff.

Interesting. Very interesting.

Biscuit
Grapewrath · 26/07/2021 23:20

Yabu for lying and saying it was the wine. If you’d drank too much you wouldn’t have driven anywhere tbh. She’s probably more annoyed with you giving her a bullshit excuse than the lift itself

Mrgrinch · 26/07/2021 23:23

I think you're backtracking and because people are calling you a drink driver.

Well that's exactly what you did and your excuse was extremely poor.

You could have caused an accident.

entropynow · 26/07/2021 23:25

@TheLovleyChebbyMcGee

You are being unreasonable for drinking 2 glasses of wine and driving.
With a meal and over the course of an evening one would be well under the limit. Don't be silly.
SemperIdem · 26/07/2021 23:25

Aside from the drink driving, which is clearly unreasonable - yes actually I think you were unreasonable not to give her a lift. Is she, or is she not, your friend?

HalzTangz · 26/07/2021 23:25

@Acey68

I mean grey area in the sense that how can anyone really know unless you drink nothing? Which I appreciate is preferable, but I planned what amount I could drink to be safe and under the limit and then had dinner on top of that and didn't drink 4 hours before driving. Not in the sense that 'oh gosh I feel half cut, but I should be fine'. Surely I can't be the only one who has had a drink earlier in the evening with dinner and then driven much later??
Maybe you are, not a single drop of alcohol passes my lips if I'm driving. I'd rather keep my licence and not be responsible for any accidents I might have. As for giving a friend a lift, I most definitely would, regardless how out of my way it was. I'd rather a friend got home safe than wake up to a message that she'd been raped or killed on the way home
NoBetterthanSheShouldBe · 26/07/2021 23:27

Your friend was the most unreasonable to ask for a lift. It was kind of you to offer to put her on the bus. As a non-driver that’s the option I would have accepted and certainly not the money (unless a short-term loan).

I certainly wouldn’t want a lift from anyone over the limit. There’s no need for her to be off with you and it’s this sort of behaviour that gives non-drivers a bad name.

tallduckandhandsome · 26/07/2021 23:27

YANBU, she failed to plan properly for the evening and is making you responsible. She doesn’t sound like a good friend, ditch her.

I’m teetotal so can’t comment on the alcohol bit,

goingtotown · 26/07/2021 23:30

My friends take it for granted that I’m driving them home, because I don’t drink. There's never a mention of petrol money or the fact that I get back home later than them.
It’s an awkward situation to say no. I just want to get in my car & drive home, not be a free taxi service.

Taliskerskye · 26/07/2021 23:36

@goingtotown
Ever thought you might have totally missed the point of the thread
Perhaps learn boundaries

HalzTangz · 26/07/2021 23:40

@burnoutbabe

Are we now saying grown women are unsafe on public transport or using Uber so everyone else has a responsibility to drive them hone? Truly depressing!

You are not being unreasonable to not want to drive someone home as they are too tight to pay for their own taxi, when it's totally the opposite way to the way you are going.

But women are unsafe when on their own. Thousands of women are raped every year. Hundreds are murdered too. In my area an Uber driver was recently in court for kidnapping two females on two different occassions
aspadeaspade · 26/07/2021 23:42

You weren't unreasonable to not give her a lift (and kind to offer splitting her Uber), but honestly, I don't think you should have been driving at all.

Assuming you weren't just making stuff up, you clearly weren't 100% comfortable with driving yourself home, so shouldn't have. Everyone has different tolerances, and it sounds like you know you're on the lightweight side of drinking.

I mean, there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a lightweight... just as long as you don't have a couple of drinks and get behind the wheel of a car.

Surge pricing annoys me too, but it's one of the disadvantages I accept by not driving. At least I don't have to pay for car repairs and insurance. Swings and roundabouts.

Mulanmoo · 26/07/2021 23:43

Drinking and driving? What planet are you on…? Confused Is this written by a Daily Mail ’journalist’? I bet it will turn up there.

Desnol · 26/07/2021 23:44

@Acey68
I'm surprised how many self-righteous or ignorant posters there are on MN. Some of them are downright vicious, some are downright wrong and some are both!

First, about being over the limit in England:- you are over the legal limit if you have 80mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood or 35 micrograms of alcohol per 100ml of breath. Whether you are over the limit or not depends on how much you weigh, what your metabolism is like, whether you had it with food or on an empty stomach, how stressed or tired you feel and how long ago you last had a drink.

All that business about being over the limit after two small glasses of wine, is just a rule of thumb for an average weight person. Those posters who think the limit is measured in glasses of wine or units, are plain ignorant. You can find "calculators on the internet to help you check whether you are over or under the limit, enter your weight, how much alcohol you had and when you drank the last of the wine. Some calculators will tell you the rough time when you should be OK to drive legally. If that's a couple of hours away, then leave your car keys and get a taxi home.

Unless you are really skinny and thin, two small glasses of wine taken over a period of 3 hours or so with a meal, probably with a coffee afterwards, the chances are good that you were well under the limit.

As for your friend's request. Does she often ask you for rides? Or very rarely or never? My answer would depend on that. If she doesn't usually ask you for a ride, then perhaps she felt afraid to use Uber or public transport on her own, or perhaps she wanted to have a private chat with you about something confidential. There's no black or white answer here either, you have to use your judgement.

When I passed my driving test and bought my very first car, I used to drive it everywhere, including to parties. But the downside was that I wouldn't be able to drink, parties are no fun when you've been on orange juice all evening and everyone else is very merry, and - to top it all - at the end of the party, everyone would be expecting me to give them a lift home. People who've had a few too many are very quick to ask for a ride. Rather inconsiderate of them. I soon got fed up with that, and simply stopped using my car to go anywhere where wine was going to be on the menu - you just end up not enjoying yourself and providing a free taxi service at the end. I completely understand that you said no.

As for your reason for not driving your friend home, that was a poor, lame sounding excuse. You should have explained that you were really tired and just couldn't drive her home tonight. Rather than offering to pay half her fare, you could have asked her, will she have enough money for the Uber, you'll gladly lend her the money if she was short.

I'm assuming that you hadn't offered to drive your friend home beforehand, and that the her request to drive her home was out of the blue.

Taliskerskye · 26/07/2021 23:53

The main point is

If you were happy to sit and wait for the bus. It was not a time constraint. It was a scared of driving whilst drunk constraint. You did not want to get caught, and it was more likely that you would get caught in her busy area

You’re argument is shot to shit

And you’re pretty disgusting as a drink driver