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To ask how to deal with hostile neighbours?

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Walkerby · 25/07/2021 20:08

Hi all, hoping you wise Mumsnetters might be able to help me with coping strategies!

We’ve lived here for 15 years and always got on well with all our neighbours. Two years ago we built an extension and approached it with every consideration to our neighbours on both sides, inviting them to talk with us about any concerns or changes they might want etc. However the neighbours on one side (an older couple) simply stopped talking to us, fired off a formal objection to the council (their right, of course, but we always made clear we were happy to talk) and have refused to talk to or even look at us or our young children ever since. They were obstructive throughout the process, rude to and shouted at our surveyors and builders, and cost us an unnecessary several thousands of pounds in legal fees having to literally force their legal rights on them as they ignored the legal party wall correspondence (as per the legal process if people ignore it). In contrast, the neighbours on the other side were lovely, talked with us throughout so we could ensure they were happy, and signed the necessary paperwork protecting them without any fuss or cost.

The nastiness from the rude neighbours has been really horrible to live with. They used to take parcels in for us, instead they’ve signed for some and left them out in the rain. We still say hello when we see them as we don’t want to sink to their level but they act like no-one’s even there and completely ignore us. We’re now tense when they’re in their garden and tense when we have to go in and out of our own house in case we see them, it’s just horrible living with the hostility so close to our doorstep. It also upsets the kids as they ignore them too.

We got a dog last summer and if she ever barks in the garden (which isn’t very often at all) the neighbours just bang loudly on the fence which feels rude and intrusive (let alone sets the dog off!). The other day she barked for five seconds and they did it again really loudly so I texted saying sorry if she disturbed them but could they text rather than bang on the fence as that just unsettles her rather than having the desired effect. They replied saying they’ll do anything they can to stop her barking and denied they banged on the fence. I’m now fully expecting a letter being fired off to the council about the dog, even though I’d welcome the council installing noise monitoring as they’d see it’s a vexatious complaint.

Both my husband and I are feeling really upset, threatened and dragged down by it all. I’d love to tell them what I think of them but I know it won’t help and this is a lovely road and currently it’s very clear to our other neighbours how nasty these two are and we haven’t put a foot wrong. I don’t want it descending into ‘six of one and half a dozen of the other’. But I’m finding it really hard to handle this hostility from them right on our doorstep and my feelings about it!

Anyone have some sage advice on how to deal with it??

OP posts:
Debetswell · 25/07/2021 20:16

Not sure this will help but my cousin was in a similar position and decided to sell.
The neighbours deliberately put off prospective buyers out of spite. They too were an old couple.
Finally my cousin said if they continued being awkward he was going to rent the house out to the most undesirable tenants he could find.
It was amazing how quickly their behaviour improved.

Malbecfan · 25/07/2021 20:32

It sounds like you have been really nice but they are miserable sods. So stop trying to be nice to them and treat them as they treat you. As Debetswell says, a couple of loud pretend conversations in the garden about letting your place out via the local Housing Association might rein them in.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 25/07/2021 20:34

My downstairs neighbour has shouted at us, slagged us to the neighbours, accused DH of pedophilia on Facebook and makes a hobby of reporting us to various agencies (mostly the housing association but on one memorable occasion social services)
I treat it like I treat toddler tantrums. Ignore the behaviour and deal with the substantive issue calmly and dispassionately.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 25/07/2021 20:37

They don't like you and they might have a point TBH.

So what? Why do you need everybody to like you?

Bluntness100 · 25/07/2021 20:37

I think it’s great you’ve not put a foot wrong, you sound so so considerate, there’s little you can do. They sound awful. But you sounds completely wonderful by what you’ve described,

gardeninggirl68 · 25/07/2021 20:41

@Malbecfan

It sounds like you have been really nice but they are miserable sods. So stop trying to be nice to them and treat them as they treat you. As Debetswell says, a couple of loud pretend conversations in the garden about letting your place out via the local Housing Association might rein them in.
sorry, whats wrong with housing associations? why would that bother them?
Speakuptomakeyourselfheard · 25/07/2021 20:57

We went through virtually the same thing OP, but in our case it was both neighbors who turned against us. They had both previously had extensions built, simply because they wanted to enlarge their homes, and that was fine, we never made any waves whatsoever, but I'm disabled, and got to a point where I needed to be downstairs all the time, so we too decided an extension was the way to go. They made life such hell for us, that in the end, we decided to move, because until we had the extension done, it had been a lovely area to live, with all the neighbours getting on like the proverbial house on fire. Suddenly with all the dirty looks, rude comments and parcels being turned away, it was no longer a nice place to live. Sorry I have no useful advice, other than to ignore them, but I doubt it will ever be the same until they or you move!

Rockdown2020 · 25/07/2021 21:00

It’s your right to build an extension and it’s there right to not be happy about it if they feel it impacts them.

I think you need to accept that.

EmeraldShamrock · 25/07/2021 21:01

Either sell or completely ignore it.
Hold your head up high, don't engage, if they speak to you look through them unless it is a serious matter
You're are never going to change their mindset.
No more hellos or opportunities to engage.
You know your dog isn't barking all day. Ignore.

LakieLady · 25/07/2021 21:10

My SIL & BIL had a similar saga with planning permission. A neighbour managed to get a lot of the neighbours involved in objecting to a planning application, and succeeded in getting it refused.

They put in another, but to massively enlarge the existing small property rather than to build another on the same huge plot, and that was again objected to but they got the PP and went ahead. It has ruined the view from the nasty neighbour's house, and he's just had to lump it.

A few months ago, he asked if he could use their drive to cut his hedge. They said no!

And they've now sold the huge house to a family with 5 children, aged 4-16, whereas BIL & SIL are just a family of 3. The old git is going to be so pissed off when all those kids move in. They've already worked out where they're going to put the trampoline, right by the old git's hedge!

But just don't let it get to you, OP. Some people are just plain nasty and petty. It's their loss.

HughGrantsHair · 25/07/2021 21:13

There's absolutely nothing you can do to make them be decent people. Just absolutely ignore them. As frustrating as that may be.

EKGEMS · 25/07/2021 21:23

I'd threaten to make it an AirBnB and rent it out for frat parties!

Mistyplanet · 25/07/2021 21:27

If they're ignoring you its better to be honest. Just ignore them as well. Its not hard. In an ideal world everyone would get along but reality is they dont. They arent bothering you except the odd bang on the fence when your dog barks so theres nothing you need to do. My neighbour and I ignore each other after a rift we had and its better for everyone. I dont have to make conversation with her every time shes outside and wonder what her intentions are (shes shown already she doesnt like us- so no point us pretending to be friends). In time its become the norm that we ignore each other and i dont feel disturbed about any of it now and i reckon shes pleased with it too.

Billandben444 · 25/07/2021 21:33

Print a notice for your front door saying 'Please don't leave our parcels at no.47 if we're out (as they are total twats)' and then blank them. Pretend they are invisible and on no account try and make amends - remember how to deal with tantrums, ignore bad behaviour, reward good. They might tire of it eventually but it won't matter either way as they don't exist!

DismantledKing · 25/07/2021 21:36

Some people are just nuts, and some couples even more so. If they live in their own bubble it can become ‘them against the world’ and they just reinforce each other’s madness.
Best to ignore them as much as you can

thetaleunfolds · 25/07/2021 21:39

They sound just like my NDNs. Just ignore them and live your life.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 25/07/2021 21:40

Just let it go OP you’re not going to get on with everyone. Our neighbours on one side are lovely and we get along well but the neighbour on the other side is just an elderly on their own who makes passive aggressive comments about stuff that has nothing to do with them, for example trying to tell us where our bins should be on our own property! I don’t bother with them now I say hello if I see them but don’t stop, unfortunately DH is softer than me and will speak to them if they’re out in their garden which leads to more comments about stuff 🙄

They honestly have nothing better to do is the way I look at it

user1471538283 · 25/07/2021 21:42

I would ignore them but the next time they bang in the fence really shout at them. You cannot reason with them. If they know you cannot be bullied they might stop. I wouldnt worry about them not speaking to you.

pilates · 25/07/2021 21:51

I would move. Is that an option?

Crimblecrumble1990 · 25/07/2021 21:51

Sorry you are having to go through this. Unfortunately a lot of people are just complete arseholes or insanely stupid. My poor parents have some previously nice neighbours who have turned nasty to them for baffling reasons only known to them. Sorry no advice, just sympathy.

Muminabun · 25/07/2021 21:55

I mean this in the nicest possible way. Stop enabling them by being nice simpering doormats. Grow some self esteem and stand up for yourselves. What do you have to lose. Do you want your children to grow up being doormats who apologise all the time when they are bullied.

Karaokehell2021 · 25/07/2021 21:55

I would discuss loudly in the garden plans to turnit into an air b n b and where you can squeeze beds in to get the occupancy as high as possible :)

Karaokehell2021 · 25/07/2021 21:55

Oh and the hot tub going in the garden to really make it appeal

MySecretHistory · 25/07/2021 21:56

If it party wall you built up to the boundary. Thats a bit shitty and not what a good neighbour does

MrsEricBana · 25/07/2021 21:59

Ignore. At some point you or they will move. Don't dwell on it too much or it will eat you up and it is simply not worth it. There is nothing else you can do.