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AIBU to think son could have spent £7.50 on me?

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Whyamivirtuallyinvisible · 22/07/2021 07:35

My son has just started work, admittedly it isn't the greatest wage, however he's been very lucky to get a job as an apprentice p,umber on 15K. He gets picked up every day so won't need fuel for his car at all during the working week. Incidentallly we bought the car, insured it for him for the first year and husband also gave him half towards his first big repair bill which cost us £200.

Times have been extremely tough financially the last few years, made worse by Covid, like many people. Our DD dances to a very high standard and it goes without saying that this costs an awful lot of money, but we manage somehow like no fancy expenditures and no holidays for the last five years. I've recently had an ankle op so I've also lost money from work.

About two months ago my son had desperately needed new clothes. Smart for interviews and some casual which had cost around £180/200 which we had paid for. He has had part time jobs but nothing since January due to Covid and then studying for A Levels

Last Saturday I'd gone into town with him, my first venture on crutches and he was going to buy himself a few things to wear with his first salary. He'd probably spent around £70 on himself before we decided to head for lunch and a rest as I was shattered. Without thinking I said I'd buy lunch. Force of habit really as not used to him working. However when we had almost arrived at the food place he remembered they only took cash. I waited outside for him as he needed to walk further up the road to withdraw cash. I gave him my card and PIN number and even as he walked away I honestly thought he'd come back and say he was treating me out of his first wage packet.

We ordered food and sat down and he told me he'd taken £20 out of my account. I think mine was £7.50 as I'd ordered small but his was more, possibly £9/10. He put the change on the table and then in his pocket as I had no bag or pockets. He kept the change but I am sure he'd just forgotten about it and I wasn't going to ask for £2 back.

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap. I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. I've tried to make it up to him in other ways and the year before I'd bought him an off-road bike £1000 and £500 worth of clothing, boots, helmet etc. It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account. Even if he'd said 'Do you mind if we have a packet of sandwiches each, I'll treat you' that would have felt better.

AIBU to think this was a bit mean after 18 years of trying to always give him what we could afford or was it my fault for inadvertently saying I'd pay.

OP posts:
Rainallnight · 22/07/2021 09:29

I am queen of offering to do things for people and expecting them to read my mind that I actually want them to do it Grin But even I would say that you’re being a hit unreasonable. He’s so young and not at all in the habit of earning a wage (which is a very low one), seeing how far it can go etc. It’s habit at that age that mum and dad pay.

Paddling654 · 22/07/2021 09:30

It would have been nice. He might be oblivious though. Have a chat with him and tell him how you felt, especially when he pocketed your change.

AnUnoriginalUsername · 22/07/2021 09:31

You said you'd buy him lunch so YABVU to be annoyed that he let his mum buy him lunch. I don't think you should expect to be bought lunch off your kid who earns very little and is still in education.
Also, you've spent all your disposable income, it sounds, on your daughter. To the extent that you haven't taken your son on a holiday for 5 years. So I feel kinda bad for him.

DrSbaitso · 22/07/2021 09:31

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

Why do you feel guilty if you don't think it's your fault?

I'm with the majority. His sister has had more spent on her, and anyway....you offered!

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 09:32

@godmum56

your daughter dances to a high standard....what does that actually mean?
Oh go away.

Honestly picking holes in the dd now!

Honestly go and find something more positive to do with your day.

pepsicolagirl · 22/07/2021 09:32

@MiddleParking

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

In what way could that possibly not be your fault?

well, yes this!
Whinge · 22/07/2021 09:34

Bryonyshcmyony Confused

@godmum56 was only asking a question. A high standard can mean different things depending on the type of dance the DD does.

HoppingPavlova · 22/07/2021 09:34

It’s just dynamic and habit so he was acting on auto-pilot. Don’t make it something it’s not. It takes them some time to shift out of the status quo once they start working in a proper job. I know I will be slammed for this but I find it does take longer with boy men (based on my experience and others I know with both sexes).

I remember with my eldest, I would ask him to pick up milk on the way home. They would come home and tell me I owed xx. Didn’t occur to them they were living here rent free and had no expenses apart from their own personal spending. I certainly didn’t cry and crack it on the internet, just did an internal eye roll and over a year they had a natural shift in thinking. No way it would have occurred to them to pay for my meal while out either, they would have expected me to do it just like I always had. Took about 2 years to get to that, but again it was a natural progression in thought as opposed to me asking/demanding/crying/sulking. They have now progressed even further to offering to cover the cheque if the entire family eats out together, we don’t take them up on it of course (probably why they offerGrin ).

It happens, you just can’t expect Rome to be built in a day when it comes to neurones firing in young adults.

RHOShitVille · 22/07/2021 09:34

You seem very upset about this, when it is a bit of a non event really.

I wonder how your DS feels about the money you spend on DD - have you ever discussed it? My child does a stupidly expensive hobby, which a lot of family money goes on - hand on heart, I am not sure I could do this if we had a second child unless they had similar opportunities.

tallduckandhandsome · 22/07/2021 09:34

Stop paying for him and starting charging him rent.

Kanaloa · 22/07/2021 09:36

You offered to buy him lunch, presumably he thought you wanted to buy him lunch.

It would have been lovely if he’d offered, but you offered first, so I’m not sure what outcome you expected. The fact that you’re on crutches isn’t relevant, same as the fact that you’ve previously bought him things.

CrouchEndTiger12 · 22/07/2021 09:37

@tallduckandhandsome

Stop paying for him and starting charging him rent.
Great. So the sons money can be used to pay for DDs dancing too.
Notaroadrunner · 22/07/2021 09:38

YABU as you said you'd pay. Ds 19 probably wouldn't even think to offer to pay for lunch. He works in a supermarket and I might ask him to bring home an item we need and I wont offer to pay him back. He asked me for £10 cash as he was going somewhere this week and could only pay cash so I gave him the tenner. I won't expect it back. Then again he doesn't cost us much besides. I only buy clothes for him as birthday and Christmas presents. I certainly wouldn't be buying him a car, insuring it or buying an off road bike with the necessary clothing. At 19 if he wants a car he can save up for one and continue to save for the yearly insurance and maintenance of it.

Your son should now paying towards the household bills/food - even a small amount per week. It will be a good lesson for him for when he moves out and realises his money really isn't all his own.

tallduckandhandsome · 22/07/2021 09:39

Son has had money spent on him too - car, car insurance, clothes, bike etc.

When you're 18 and start working, you pay rent.

godmum56 · 22/07/2021 09:41

godmum56
your daughter dances to a high standard....what does that actually mean?
Oh go away.
Bryonyshcmyony
Honestly picking holes in the dd now!

Honestly go and find something more positive to do with your day.

not picking holes in anybody....just trying to understand if this is a hobby that she is really good at or its expected to be her career...she is full time at an academy and so on.....

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 22/07/2021 09:42

I see the OP never returned 🙄

HoppingPavlova · 22/07/2021 09:43

It's odd that you list the things you do to support your child. Isn't that just what parents do if they can, and not something you expect them to most back?

I do agree with this when parents list stuff out that are basic expectations. When you have kids you have basically committed to housing them, feeding them, educating them, giving them support and experiences etc to the highest level of your ability with the resources you have available to you. All of this, I did x,y and z and now my child is ungrateful is madness. Not aiming this at OP but you do see it on here quite frequently.

CrouchEndTiger12 · 22/07/2021 09:45

@godmum56

godmum56 your daughter dances to a high standard....what does that actually mean? Oh go away. Bryonyshcmyony Honestly picking holes in the dd now!

Honestly go and find something more positive to do with your day.

not picking holes in anybody....just trying to understand if this is a hobby that she is really good at or its expected to be her career...she is full time at an academy and so on.....

Even I knew what you meant.

High standard is dubious. What dance?

Is it school fees for the Royal Ballet Upper school or a performing arts school?

Even if it was it is money down the drain and professional companies rarely take on dancer's

LonginesPrime · 22/07/2021 09:48

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap.

You offered to buy lunch, and he accepted. Was it some kind of test to see if he would "do the right thing" and decline?

It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account.

Because you gave him your card and pin! Why would he think that meant you wanted him to stay with you and find you a seat and pay for you? You set that scenario in motion by giving him your card and pin so you have no-one to blame but yourself. You could have gone in and found somewhere to sit but you chose to stand and make a martyr of yourself.

You had a nice day out with DS (and it's lovely that he still wants to hang out with you at that age, tbh), but you're choosing to make a non-issue into a major drama - why?

If you feel he should contribute more to the household now that he's earning, then sit down with him, discuss things properly like grown ups and set some new boundaries.

YABU to expect him to be psychic or to know when you accidentally say stuff you don't mean - just be open and honest with him, otherwise the resentment you're feeling will continue to build and fester.

PommieCheeks75 · 22/07/2021 09:49

Probably didn’t even occur to him to pay, he hasn’t got the maturity yet to think about it.
You said you’d pay which is what you do, he accepted because it’s what he does.
If you’re upset about it, tell him, he can’t read your mind.

Kanaloa · 22/07/2021 09:49

And presumably the things you buy for your son (clothes, car insurance, bike) your daughter also gets. Unless she step ball changes everywhere in her sequinned leotard, she also needs clothes and possibly a bike. These are just things parents buy for their kids, and your son wasn’t working at the time you bought them.

Elkey · 22/07/2021 09:53

I think it's lovely that your 18-year-old went out shopping with you and then for lunch. Even went the cash machine for you. Sounds like he'll one day be the kind of son who offers to treat you. But he's so young and unexperienced.

And of course you've financially supported him. What decent parent doesn't?

You certainly can't be mad and upset, surely?! You offered to pay. I hope you weren't moody over lunch. Poor lad.

Booboobadoo · 22/07/2021 09:53

Could you draw a line under this and now as your son is an adult and earning his own money, sit down together and explain the cost of living to him and ask him to contribute a small amount of his wage? He would still have money left over to spend and save. You may need to be more explicit with him if this is new to him. I don't think it's unreasonable to have supported your daughter's hobby. You have helped your son too. If there isn't loads of money available, you need to proritise.

godmum56 · 22/07/2021 09:55

"It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account."

and in the distance a tiny violin played......

QuimReaper · 22/07/2021 09:57

As others have said, teenagers' attitude to money is very immature, because they're brand new to it. I have a couple of teenage money behaviours I cringe when I look back on - not because they were selfish, just thoughtless and naive.