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AIBU to think son could have spent £7.50 on me?

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Whyamivirtuallyinvisible · 22/07/2021 07:35

My son has just started work, admittedly it isn't the greatest wage, however he's been very lucky to get a job as an apprentice p,umber on 15K. He gets picked up every day so won't need fuel for his car at all during the working week. Incidentallly we bought the car, insured it for him for the first year and husband also gave him half towards his first big repair bill which cost us £200.

Times have been extremely tough financially the last few years, made worse by Covid, like many people. Our DD dances to a very high standard and it goes without saying that this costs an awful lot of money, but we manage somehow like no fancy expenditures and no holidays for the last five years. I've recently had an ankle op so I've also lost money from work.

About two months ago my son had desperately needed new clothes. Smart for interviews and some casual which had cost around £180/200 which we had paid for. He has had part time jobs but nothing since January due to Covid and then studying for A Levels

Last Saturday I'd gone into town with him, my first venture on crutches and he was going to buy himself a few things to wear with his first salary. He'd probably spent around £70 on himself before we decided to head for lunch and a rest as I was shattered. Without thinking I said I'd buy lunch. Force of habit really as not used to him working. However when we had almost arrived at the food place he remembered they only took cash. I waited outside for him as he needed to walk further up the road to withdraw cash. I gave him my card and PIN number and even as he walked away I honestly thought he'd come back and say he was treating me out of his first wage packet.

We ordered food and sat down and he told me he'd taken £20 out of my account. I think mine was £7.50 as I'd ordered small but his was more, possibly £9/10. He put the change on the table and then in his pocket as I had no bag or pockets. He kept the change but I am sure he'd just forgotten about it and I wasn't going to ask for £2 back.

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap. I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. I've tried to make it up to him in other ways and the year before I'd bought him an off-road bike £1000 and £500 worth of clothing, boots, helmet etc. It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account. Even if he'd said 'Do you mind if we have a packet of sandwiches each, I'll treat you' that would have felt better.

AIBU to think this was a bit mean after 18 years of trying to always give him what we could afford or was it my fault for inadvertently saying I'd pay.

OP posts:
Hallyup6 · 22/07/2021 09:12

@Bluntness100

Those saying £15k is a low wage must earn a fortune

It is factually a very low wage, and those earning above it aren’t earning a fortune, the average wage in the Uk is approx 32k per annum, he’s on min wage and no one should think it’s a fortune.

It's good for an apprenticeship though. Certainly not a fortune but in a couple of years his earning power will be a lot higher. A lot of people his age would be at university and having to shell out money to be there. He's doing pretty well for his age.
Noterook · 22/07/2021 09:12

You literally said I'll get lunch, and that's what happened so it seems unfair to be annoyed at that

aivilo · 22/07/2021 09:13

@Bluntness100

I’d not expect my daughter to by me lunch no, certainly not on that low salary and I don’t think she owes me because I raised her either.

This

FatJan · 22/07/2021 09:14

You are incredibly unreasonable and I found your post annoying to read.

You say you are struggling financially but you bought and insured a car and a £1000 off road bike with £500 worth of kit for your son while admitting you spend much more on your daughter.

With respect, I think you have a very warped view of what it means to be struggling financially.

You then cried because your 18 year old son didn't offer to buy the lunch you TOLD HIM you'd pay for. This is odd. I'd maybe end up crying if my partner didn't offer to pay when I was having card/cash issues, but not my child.

He's a kid, and it wouldn't have occurred to him. I'm in my thirties and my parents still pay for my lunch when we go out.

Itsallok · 22/07/2021 09:14

Dancing is the sort of thing that parents spend massive amount of money on for no real benefit (its mainly OTT makeup and custumes). NO way should the whole family miss out on everything so your daughter can prance around.

pollylocketpickedapocket · 22/07/2021 09:16

Can’t believe you’ve gone without holidays for 5 years to pay for your daughters dancing! Outrageous!

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 09:17

@Itsallok

Dancing is the sort of thing that parents spend massive amount of money on for no real benefit (its mainly OTT makeup and custumes). NO way should the whole family miss out on everything so your daughter can prance around.
OK Oliver Cromwell.
ExConstance · 22/07/2021 09:17

My two are now 26 and 30, they are kind, generous and buy lovely Christmas and birthday presents but when we eat out as a family it is their expectation that DH and I will pick up the tab. DS1 usually buys a round of drinks. I remember when i was in my early 20's and earning quite well that when I went home to see my parents my father would always fill up my car ( he had a garage) and give me £10 for the journey back. I didn't need it but it just made me feel so happy and loved when I did that. Hopefully, OP, your son will remember on mother's day and your birthday and at Christmas all y9ou do for him. £15k for a first job at 19 is not a pittance.

aivilo · 22/07/2021 09:17

Those saying £15k is a low wage must earn a fortune

No. It's lower than the U.K. average salary therefore it is referred to as low.

Saltyslug · 22/07/2021 09:18

You’re totally overthinking this, you said you’d pay and you did.

It’s your job as parent to look after your child’s needs up until they move into adulthood and are able to look after themselves. Every child is entitled to be clothed, kept warm, loved, sheltered, educated, supported emotionally, treated with respect. The degree to which you financially support them is your choice and not his.

He’s mid transition, he’s gone from minimal cash as a child to a working wage with few overheads. This is the time to help him step into adulthood. In your shoes I’d let him independently finance his car and also ask him to shop and cook for the family two meals a week. This will help him start to understand the cost of living while acknowledging he’s an apprentice living in the family home.

For him to buy you lunch requires a change of routine and a little bit of thought on his part. It’s better to say something like you’ll buy lunch this time and he can buy the lunch next time. Then aim to alternate lunch buying

Nomorepies · 22/07/2021 09:19

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ on the poster's request

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 09:19

Yes she's over thinking but God don't we all/haven't we all at times?

Conchitastrawberry · 22/07/2021 09:19

Abu - he’s just got a job. It probably didn’t occur to him to offer especially as you said you’d pay.

Saltyslug · 22/07/2021 09:20

But my own parents bought all the meals out when I was on a very low income and it was really appreciated

Livpool · 22/07/2021 09:20

YABU - you offered to pay.

I also think it is unfair to tot up what you have paid for him - that is just what parents do. And you also admit that your family hasn't had a holiday for 5 years thanks to DDs hobby. If anything- surely you owe DS money if you are so keen to balance every penny.

Itsallok · 22/07/2021 09:22

@pollylocketpickedapocket

Can’t believe you’ve gone without holidays for 5 years to pay for your daughters dancing! Outrageous!
outrageous and stupid.
MadeOfStarStuff · 22/07/2021 09:23

YABU you offered to pay and he’s still young and in the “parent pays for me” mindset so probably wouldn’t think to insist on paying especially when you said you would. Absolutely ridiculous to cry because your teenage son accepted what you’d said at face value rather than reading your mind!

YanTanTethera123 · 22/07/2021 09:23

Why offer to pay if you didn’t want to?
I treat my DD and my DS and his family when we meet up. They each have more income than me but I enjoy doing it. I certainly don’t then expect them to pay after I’ve said I will! Most odd.

Winemewhynot · 22/07/2021 09:23

You offered and now you’re crying he accepted, please don’t let him know that, talk about emotional manipulation!

Progress2019 · 22/07/2021 09:24

You’re not being unreasonable. I’ve got older children too, and they want to be treated like adults, but emotionally they’re not. You’ve obviously done so much for your children, and wouldn’t it have been lovely to be treated to lunch? To an adult, of course, but to a man, who's not quite ripe yet, forget it. In a few years time he’ll be better, but might need a few nudges first. Don’t feel bad or guilty about doing the nudging.

Im amazed at all these people saying yabu. You’re not.

PrettyLittleFlies · 22/07/2021 09:26

Wow. My 18yo earns v well but I still pay for her on many occasions. She's my baby! And I would never even think to list what I've paid out on lessons etc, that's what parents do surely?

user1471478181 · 22/07/2021 09:27

Does he pay board? When I got my apprenticeship when I left school I I got paid £40 (3 days work) and out of that I paid £10 week to my mum and dad ( mum reason it would teach me about bills etc) but for going shopping etc what we do is one pays for bus fare and another pays for drink

HeyDemonsItsYaGirl · 22/07/2021 09:28

Poor boy. It's very clear who the favourite child is, and it'll be clear to him, too.

SwanSummers · 22/07/2021 09:29

You said that you'd pay, he probably thought you wanted to treat him to lunch as you'd said that and forgot about the change by the time you got home.

godmum56 · 22/07/2021 09:29

your daughter dances to a high standard....what does that actually mean?