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AIBU to think son could have spent £7.50 on me?

289 replies

Whyamivirtuallyinvisible · 22/07/2021 07:35

My son has just started work, admittedly it isn't the greatest wage, however he's been very lucky to get a job as an apprentice p,umber on 15K. He gets picked up every day so won't need fuel for his car at all during the working week. Incidentallly we bought the car, insured it for him for the first year and husband also gave him half towards his first big repair bill which cost us £200.

Times have been extremely tough financially the last few years, made worse by Covid, like many people. Our DD dances to a very high standard and it goes without saying that this costs an awful lot of money, but we manage somehow like no fancy expenditures and no holidays for the last five years. I've recently had an ankle op so I've also lost money from work.

About two months ago my son had desperately needed new clothes. Smart for interviews and some casual which had cost around £180/200 which we had paid for. He has had part time jobs but nothing since January due to Covid and then studying for A Levels

Last Saturday I'd gone into town with him, my first venture on crutches and he was going to buy himself a few things to wear with his first salary. He'd probably spent around £70 on himself before we decided to head for lunch and a rest as I was shattered. Without thinking I said I'd buy lunch. Force of habit really as not used to him working. However when we had almost arrived at the food place he remembered they only took cash. I waited outside for him as he needed to walk further up the road to withdraw cash. I gave him my card and PIN number and even as he walked away I honestly thought he'd come back and say he was treating me out of his first wage packet.

We ordered food and sat down and he told me he'd taken £20 out of my account. I think mine was £7.50 as I'd ordered small but his was more, possibly £9/10. He put the change on the table and then in his pocket as I had no bag or pockets. He kept the change but I am sure he'd just forgotten about it and I wasn't going to ask for £2 back.

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap. I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. I've tried to make it up to him in other ways and the year before I'd bought him an off-road bike £1000 and £500 worth of clothing, boots, helmet etc. It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account. Even if he'd said 'Do you mind if we have a packet of sandwiches each, I'll treat you' that would have felt better.

AIBU to think this was a bit mean after 18 years of trying to always give him what we could afford or was it my fault for inadvertently saying I'd pay.

OP posts:
bongbigboobingbongbing · 22/07/2021 07:51

Honestly I find it quite weird to list out all the things you've paid for for your children. That's what having children means, surely? Most parents spend lots of money on their kids. Appreciate times have been tough and you are probably feeling a bit sensitive at the moment. I think YABU to offer to pay for lunch then be upset when he takes you up on it. Next time just say "would you like to treat me now you're working?". It probably just didn't occur to him. Don't set imaginary tests then get upset when he doesn't "pass" them.

Ughmaybenot · 22/07/2021 07:51

YABU. You offered. The way you keep track of what was spent on him and when is very weird, he’s your son!

FatOaf · 22/07/2021 07:51

You might be underestimating how long it takes for the relationship between parent and child to change as the child moves towards independence. It is quite a big step from being someone who parents provide for to someone who makes a contribution. My youngest finds this very difficult and I often have to tell her - in as casual a manner as possible - "As I paid for xyz, you can buy me a sandwich for lunch."

riotlady · 22/07/2021 07:52

YABU, you offered and it’s not going to occur to an 18 year old to argue

Bluntness100 · 22/07/2021 07:53

@MiddleParking

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

In what way could that possibly not be your fault?

Yes I’m curious about this too.
SnarkyBag · 22/07/2021 07:53

You offered to pay so YABU to be shedding tears over it.

stellaisabella · 22/07/2021 07:54

@MiddleParking

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

In what way could that possibly not be your fault?

This. You have chosen to pay for her to continue an overly expensive hobby, and your ds has lost out on family holidays and hasn't had the same spent on him. They've been treated completely differently. She never should have had so much spent on her if you couldn't afford to do the same for your son. It's a bit unbelievable after all that, that you're complaining about £7.50.
Youdiditanyway · 22/07/2021 07:54

YABU because you offered. It would have been nice of him to think to argue against it but he’s young and I know at that age it wouldn’t have entered my mind to either.

Lokdok · 22/07/2021 07:55

What? You said you’d pay so he assumed you’d pay. Not sure why you’d cry about that.

SushiGo · 22/07/2021 07:55

No.

You are being very unfair. You told him you would pay but were expecting him to know to offer. He's not a mindreader. If you want to set up that kind of social expectation you must actually say it out loud to him. He's still young and isn't going to learn these kinds of social rules unless you teach them.

Equally, he probably doesn't know the ins and outs of your finances, and it's unfair of you to expect him to subsidise you because you are funding his sisters dancing. He has already lost out on other experiences he might have had over the last few years because of that and is used to being 'compensated' by you buying him stuff.

You have a whole new dynamic to work out.

daisypond · 22/07/2021 07:56

Five years without a holiday purely because you need to pay for your daughter’s dancing lessons is a long time. Did the DC know this was the reason you didn’t have holidays? How old is your daughter? What sort of dancing does she do?

ikeepseeingit · 22/07/2021 07:57

It’s probably stress getting to you OP, he’s only 18 and you told him you would pay. Next time say he can pay, and you can swap paying like adults. My mum still tries to pay for me and I’m 23 with a house! In fact, I lost the last battle of ice cream payment with my dad because he was so insistent Grin. They’re not rich, none of us are. But I offer and always get refused. I would be quite stressed if I thought that their offer wasn’t genuine and I’ve been offending them all of these years! At 18 I wouldn’t have thought to insist, I would have thought insisting with my mum was rude tbh. Just let him know you’d like him to pay next time and that you can swap each time you go out.

Greenhillfaraway · 22/07/2021 07:57

YABU although your health and tiredness may have made you more emotional.

This sentence stood out for me: I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. You’re one of her parents so while you might not be the driving force, you’re certainly complicit in facilitating this by restricting common family practices to pay for it.

BikeRunSki · 22/07/2021 07:57

He’s not old enough, socially experienced enough or used to having an income for it to have occurred to him to pay, particularly as you said you’d pay.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 22/07/2021 07:58

I am sorry but I absolutely hate this type of... Game?
"I will pay, here is my card take money out dfor it"
And expects the other person to do "no, it's ok". If you didn't say anything and then further cemented it by giving him the card, I would absolutely say yanbu and that it would be nice, but like this it's the "he should have known what I wanted even though I said opposite" sadly. And that's not a good trait roo

Birkie248 · 22/07/2021 07:58

It’s a non issue. He’s on a low wage, you said you’d pay, he’s young and it probably didn’t occur to him.
The dancing matter is completely separate to the lunch issue though. There doesn’t sound like a lot of balance in that, plus you’ve used all the money that would have been otherwise available for family holidays on dancing? Not related to the lunch issue and I doubt it crossed his mind, but this might do in future and he might be resentful.

olidora63 · 22/07/2021 08:00

YABU…if I offer to pay for lunch i pay for it. Yes in the perfect world it would be wonderful if son had intervened and insisted on paying but it would be unusual for 18 yr old to think like that.
My children are in their 20s and I still generally pay for meals out .

SharpLily · 22/07/2021 08:01

I think your attitude to money is a little odd, to be honest. You seem to be counting up in detail what you spend on him while admitting you've spent far more on your daughter (and that's "not my fault"? Well it's certainly not down to him either). Undoubtedly her dancing also takes up a fair amount of your time as well as money.

We get that kind of treatment from our parents in our family and I'm used to it and no longer care - I know it doesn't mean I'm loved any less but the blatant inequality is starting to really rile my husband. He's getting very annoyed at seeing the difference in how my parents treat my brother and I, and even my brother is starting to feel embarrassed by it. This is something to be careful about.

He will have noticed which side of this balance applies to him and if you're lucky he won't resent it but I don't actually think this has anything to do with him not paying for lunch. You said you'd pay. He's young and his brain simply isn't that sophisticated yet. Maybe you should start instilling some financial awareness into both children. Attitudes to money such as saving and paying your way don't always grow up naturally, it's helpful to have them taught and it's not too late for him to learn.

YABU to be so upset about this.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 22/07/2021 08:01

You offered and he is your child, I wouldn’t have expected him to pay for lunch.

I know a family with a dancer in, the siblings have a lot of resentment towards their parents for the time and money spent on it and all the things they had to go without to accommodate it.

Seems weird to list the money you have sent, it’s just parenting and I’d never think to keep tabs as I chose to have children.

CrouchEndTiger12 · 22/07/2021 08:02

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

It absolutely is your fault. You spend a lot of money on one child to the extent that it makes less money available for the family and you're crying that he didn't buy you lunch?

user1494055864 · 22/07/2021 08:03

18 years of buying him what you can afford? I'm sorry but that's what a parent is supposed to do!

TopTabby · 22/07/2021 08:03

Ahhhh, it sounds like you were knackered & a bit down anyway. YAB slightly U, he just wouldn't have thought. They seem all grown up at 18 with a job but the reality is very different & they can be incredibly self centred to a really annoying extent.
He'll learn, honestly they have zero idea mostly.

wjg65ka · 22/07/2021 08:05

No I wouldn't expect him to at all

CrouchEndTiger12 · 22/07/2021 08:05

It's also false economy for dancing. I don't know if it is ballet or whatever but you know there are virtually no jobs available in performing arts, ballet companies? What is she going to do with it?

You'd be better sinking that money into something else.

CheekiBreeki · 22/07/2021 08:05

You offered to pay for lunch. You are being silly to shed a tear over someone not buying you lunch after you'd offered to pay for them.