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AIBU to think son could have spent £7.50 on me?

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Whyamivirtuallyinvisible · 22/07/2021 07:35

My son has just started work, admittedly it isn't the greatest wage, however he's been very lucky to get a job as an apprentice p,umber on 15K. He gets picked up every day so won't need fuel for his car at all during the working week. Incidentallly we bought the car, insured it for him for the first year and husband also gave him half towards his first big repair bill which cost us £200.

Times have been extremely tough financially the last few years, made worse by Covid, like many people. Our DD dances to a very high standard and it goes without saying that this costs an awful lot of money, but we manage somehow like no fancy expenditures and no holidays for the last five years. I've recently had an ankle op so I've also lost money from work.

About two months ago my son had desperately needed new clothes. Smart for interviews and some casual which had cost around £180/200 which we had paid for. He has had part time jobs but nothing since January due to Covid and then studying for A Levels

Last Saturday I'd gone into town with him, my first venture on crutches and he was going to buy himself a few things to wear with his first salary. He'd probably spent around £70 on himself before we decided to head for lunch and a rest as I was shattered. Without thinking I said I'd buy lunch. Force of habit really as not used to him working. However when we had almost arrived at the food place he remembered they only took cash. I waited outside for him as he needed to walk further up the road to withdraw cash. I gave him my card and PIN number and even as he walked away I honestly thought he'd come back and say he was treating me out of his first wage packet.

We ordered food and sat down and he told me he'd taken £20 out of my account. I think mine was £7.50 as I'd ordered small but his was more, possibly £9/10. He put the change on the table and then in his pocket as I had no bag or pockets. He kept the change but I am sure he'd just forgotten about it and I wasn't going to ask for £2 back.

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap. I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. I've tried to make it up to him in other ways and the year before I'd bought him an off-road bike £1000 and £500 worth of clothing, boots, helmet etc. It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account. Even if he'd said 'Do you mind if we have a packet of sandwiches each, I'll treat you' that would have felt better.

AIBU to think this was a bit mean after 18 years of trying to always give him what we could afford or was it my fault for inadvertently saying I'd pay.

OP posts:
peboh · 22/07/2021 07:39

You said you'd pay. Yabu to be hurt.
Though you should have asked him for your change.

Bluntness100 · 22/07/2021 07:39

I’d not expect my daughter to by me lunch no, certainly not on that low salary and I don’t think she owes me because I raised her either.

Holly60 · 22/07/2021 07:40

It was force of habit for you to offer and force of habit for him to accept. He is still young and won’t think of treating his mum. Give him time. You did overreact (in the kindest possible way)

Janaih · 22/07/2021 07:41

The realisation of young adults that life is expensive is a gradual one, be patient it will come.
Does sound like you've spent way more time money and effort on your dds hobby though. That's a separate issue but something to be aware of.

CeeceeBloomingdale · 22/07/2021 07:42

You offered so he probably didn't think to argue. I think you are being a bit sensitive about it.

DinosaurDiana · 22/07/2021 07:42

You said you’d pay, and I wouldn’t think to expect my kids to buy me a meal.

Amdone123 · 22/07/2021 07:42

YANBU.
Of course he should have paid. And tbh I would speak to him about it. No one likes a tightwad so you're doing him a favour by highlighting this undesirable trait.
It sounds like you feel guilty about the unequal spending ( though tbh they've both had more than enough from you), so no more guilt.
YANBU to shed a tear. I would have too. Speak to him soon; tell him how upset you are.
And get the change back.

ohthatbloodycat · 22/07/2021 07:44

YANBU Thanks

fishonabicycle · 22/07/2021 07:44

If you said you would pay, you are being unreasonable. Just wait - he will treat you one day.

pinkflask · 22/07/2021 07:44

It would have been nice but he’s 18 and their brains operate in a way which makes them self-centred. I teach this age group and although they’re lovely and very appreciative of what we do for them, you should see the last day…a couple of nice diligent girls bringing gifts for teachers in pretty bags, and all the rest scribbling in hastily-bought cards or - if I’m lucky - thrusting a box of Milk Tray into my hands. Honestly I got on well with the whole class, they got good results and enjoyed my lessons but the fact I’m human and it would be nice to say thank you to me - well it scarcely occurred to most of them! Of course I just find it funny, and don’t take it personally. It’s the same every year!

warmfluffytowels · 22/07/2021 07:45

YABU.

Why did you offer if you weren't willing to pay?

thistimelastweek · 22/07/2021 07:46

It just wouldn't have entered his head to pay. He wasn't being mean, it just didn't occur to him.

Many years ago I took my son shopping and bought him loads of clothes but casually mentioned that he could get lunch. When it came to paying for lunch, I stepped back and
looked at him. He was astonished, like what, you meant it?

Patapouf · 22/07/2021 07:46

Sounds like you treat your children very differently. Take his measly apprentice wage out of the equation for a second- you said you spend a lot of money on your daughters hobby ans the family has gone without holidays for many years etc. yet you begrudge buying your son a sandwich after you offered? Shock

stellaisabella · 22/07/2021 07:46

He's on a low wage, your dd has by admittance yourself had a great deal more spent on her over the years. I think you can buy him a £9 lunch and it's certainly nothing to cry about, you offered to pay!

ForeverSinging · 22/07/2021 07:46

18 year olds don't necessarily think like that. He's used to being paid for by his parents for necessities, it's how it's always been.

You also said you'd pay so unless you want him to read minds and start playing games with you where you don't say what you actually mean and then say you're hurt, yabu.

Jumpingintosummer · 22/07/2021 07:47

You offered, he accepted. If you hadn’t wanted to pay you shouldn’t have suggested it really.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 22/07/2021 07:47

You’ve carefully listed all the money you’ve spent on him as if you’re keeping score. If you wrote a similar list for how much you’ve spent on your DD, what would that look like? And presumably the no fancy holidays because of her dancing meant no fancy holidays for your DS growing up either, so you can pay for a hobby that’s not his and he gets no benefit from?

If I’ve read the post right, your DS is 18 and has just left school and was out spending money from his first wage packet? I’m not surprised it didn’t occur to him to pay, tbh. They’re very used to mum and dad picking up the bills at that age - force of habit as you say yourself. And you said you would buy lunch as well and gave him your bank card to get cash out! - he probably didn’t think it through any further than that. I’d have probably made a light joke of it - next time, lunch is on you, mate, now you’re earning!

I think the fact that you’re recovering from your op is perhaps making you feel a bit vulnerable and low, but I don’t think your DS has done much wrong here.

Whinge · 22/07/2021 07:48

I think YABU to expect him to pay when you've already said you would. He's not a mind reader.

I also think the money spent trying to compensate for DDs hobby shouldn't be a factor. Buying the car, bike, clothes was your choice, and shouldn't have any bearing on how he spends his money.

Willwebebuyingnumber11 · 22/07/2021 07:49

He’s on a low wage and hasn’t had a holiday in 5 years because you’ve chosen to use the family money and his sisters dancing.
YABU to begrudge buying him lunch. If you didn’t want to then you shouldn’t of offered.

MiddleParking · 22/07/2021 07:49

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

In what way could that possibly not be your fault?

NoNobramma · 22/07/2021 07:50

It’s not you. Or him really. It’s teenagers and boys in particular.
But you could have a chat with him and suggest gently that it would have been nice for him to offer to pay. And talk to him about your daughters dancing to see how he feel about that too? My four children have had vastly different amounts spent on them - I’d never try to be equal in amounts- only in fairness. What they needed they got. What they wanted we always considered and they often got too. But did they get the same £x spent from age 0-18? Ridiculous! No.

daisypond · 22/07/2021 07:50

You said you’d pay. I wouldn’t expect my 18-year-old child to treat me with their first pay check or to buy me a meal. That’s just miserly. Obviously, it sounds that money is tight all round, so that might skew things for you.

Sleepinghyena · 22/07/2021 07:50

Yabu. You offered to pay. And if he took the change because you had no pockets, then you could have asked for it back.
It sounds like you have spent a lot more on your daughter's dancing than on equivalent for him. You are very defensive about this :"It's not my fault "
Well, yes, it is your fault if you haven't treated your children equally. You mention you have had no holidays for the last 5 years because of paying for dancing. Well, as the is now 18, that would be his teenage years with no holiday when you admit there could have been if it wasn't for DD's dancing,
I would imagine he he keenly aware of the financial inequalities in your spending on DC. And yet you are tearful because he didn't buy the lunch that you offered to pay for?
Be honest, is there a definite golden child in your family??

Cattitudes · 22/07/2021 07:50

I think it takes a while for the dynamic to change to be honest. Does he use his own money for presents etc? Maybe start with suggesting that you would like to be treated to coffee out for your birthday so he starts to think about food out being swapped around, or don't jump in and say you would buy him lunch, suggest that you split it. I don't think he can be expected to know that you saying you would buy lunch would mean he should buy you lunch. If a friend said to you that they would buy you lunch you might possibly suggest that you split it but it would be fairly rude to say no I am buying you lunch, unless you generally take turns and you have remembered it is your turn.

I would try to focus away from that incident and think more about how you might encourage him to find a good balance of generosity and money management. Although I paid rent at that stage it was quite a long time before I would buy my parents a meal because they had more disposable income than I did.

NoraButty · 22/07/2021 07:51

If he’s anything like my son when he first started earning it likely just did not occur to him to pay. Not because of meanness or malice or anything like that but because he was used to me, mum, taking the lead or the responsibility for things like that. It’s like auto pilot.

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