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AIBU to think son could have spent £7.50 on me?

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Whyamivirtuallyinvisible · 22/07/2021 07:35

My son has just started work, admittedly it isn't the greatest wage, however he's been very lucky to get a job as an apprentice p,umber on 15K. He gets picked up every day so won't need fuel for his car at all during the working week. Incidentallly we bought the car, insured it for him for the first year and husband also gave him half towards his first big repair bill which cost us £200.

Times have been extremely tough financially the last few years, made worse by Covid, like many people. Our DD dances to a very high standard and it goes without saying that this costs an awful lot of money, but we manage somehow like no fancy expenditures and no holidays for the last five years. I've recently had an ankle op so I've also lost money from work.

About two months ago my son had desperately needed new clothes. Smart for interviews and some casual which had cost around £180/200 which we had paid for. He has had part time jobs but nothing since January due to Covid and then studying for A Levels

Last Saturday I'd gone into town with him, my first venture on crutches and he was going to buy himself a few things to wear with his first salary. He'd probably spent around £70 on himself before we decided to head for lunch and a rest as I was shattered. Without thinking I said I'd buy lunch. Force of habit really as not used to him working. However when we had almost arrived at the food place he remembered they only took cash. I waited outside for him as he needed to walk further up the road to withdraw cash. I gave him my card and PIN number and even as he walked away I honestly thought he'd come back and say he was treating me out of his first wage packet.

We ordered food and sat down and he told me he'd taken £20 out of my account. I think mine was £7.50 as I'd ordered small but his was more, possibly £9/10. He put the change on the table and then in his pocket as I had no bag or pockets. He kept the change but I am sure he'd just forgotten about it and I wasn't going to ask for £2 back.

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap. I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. I've tried to make it up to him in other ways and the year before I'd bought him an off-road bike £1000 and £500 worth of clothing, boots, helmet etc. It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account. Even if he'd said 'Do you mind if we have a packet of sandwiches each, I'll treat you' that would have felt better.

AIBU to think this was a bit mean after 18 years of trying to always give him what we could afford or was it my fault for inadvertently saying I'd pay.

OP posts:
Horehound · 22/07/2021 08:29

@Robostripes

I’m 34 and earn a very decent wage and still hardly ever treat my parents - I buy them nice gifts but if we go out for a meal they usually offer to pay and I let them! Frankly despite my decent wage they are still a lot better off than me with my huge mortgage and childcare fees to pay so I don’t feel too guilty about it. At 18 it wouldn’t have even occurred to me to offer like many others have said.
Yes, this is the same for me. My parents are well off, mortgage free, have very very expensive cars etc and so the money aspect to them buying us dinner or lunch or a night on a hotel whatever is not a big deal whereas it would be to me.

But I guess there's the emotional side too where it's nice for a kid to treat their parents and I do try to do that sometimes and like you, nice gifts at Xmas etc.
But yeh as an 18yr old...no chance.

CambsAlways · 22/07/2021 08:30

Sounds to me you treat your children differently you admit yo spend an awful lot of your Dd dancing but then when it comes to your son you are getting upset when he didn’t offer to pay yet you said you would pay, totally agree with Sleepinghyena post,

Aprilx · 22/07/2021 08:30

I don’t have children so I am thinking back to myself as I became an adult. And no I would not have been buying parents lunch with my first pay packet, it was low pay, I wasn’t suddenly become flush with cash and the parent / child roles were still the same. I don’t think it would have occurred to me to pay for lunch for parents until I was late 20s / early 30s which was when I started to get a bit more financially secure.

I think it is weird and I don’t really understand why you would expect an 18 year old to buy you lunch out of their first salary and particularly when you have already said it is your treat.

notangelinajolie · 22/07/2021 08:31

Flowers YANBU
I've been there too.

LannieDuck · 22/07/2021 08:31

I remember being a young adult and buying my parents lunch for the first couple of times. It felt weird and also slightly awkward. If they'd offered first, I wouldn't have argued with them about it. Habit's hard to break - as you yourself admit ;)

Whinge · 22/07/2021 08:31

@Bryonyshcmyony

Also ignorant.

A mum posts about one issue thst makes her sad and that's it, her son will resent her for the rest of her life.

Maybe she treats her kids differently becuase they ARE different?

The OP might have posted about lunch, but her comments about DDs dancing, lack of holidays and expecting her son to pay her back as she's paid for the last 18 years shows there's a huge difference in how she treats her DD and DS. Unfortunately resentment can and does build over much smaller issues, so it's something she might need to keep in mind going forward.
KarmaStar · 22/07/2021 08:31

Yabvu.just read your thread again.

AhNowTed · 22/07/2021 08:33

If he's only 18 or 19 he's done nothing wrong.

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 08:33

No, it's impossible to know how she treats her kids. The only thing we know for sure is that she has a good enough relationship with her son to go out shopping together. That's more than most

Some people just live to find fault.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 22/07/2021 08:34

@AhNowTed

If he's only 18 or 19 he's done nothing wrong.
Wven 49 he wouldn't do anything wrong if he's been told someone is paying for lunch and so he wouldn't pay 😁
TheGoogleMum · 22/07/2021 08:34

If a parent offers to pay I let them!

TheGumption · 22/07/2021 08:35

No, she has said her daughter gets more and it's not her fault 🤷‍♀️
It's not "nasty and vicious" at all, get a grip.
You see it literally every day on here. Sons who are treated differently to precious daughters who then get married and distance themselves from their families. Then mothers act surprised because "I'm sure I treated them exactly the same!"
🙄

Wineandroses3 · 22/07/2021 08:36

I understand but I don’t think your son was being malicious, even now I’m married my a dad still automatically pays and I have taken it for granted, it’s only now that i sometimes absolutely insist that my mum and dad let me pay, usually after a bit of an argument of them saying no! 😆Like previous poster says it’s takes a while for the dynamic to change , I think he was being absent minded not mean. Next time say something jokey like come on you can treat your old mum now that you’re working and I’m sure he’d be fine with this they just need it spelling out sometimes x

Branster · 22/07/2021 08:36

But he is your son and you always pay for him.
He clearly didn't even think about the possibility that he would be the one to treat you to lunch.
I'd say that he copies your attitude to money, even if you don't realise it yourself.
Yes you always pay for him and the sibling but I wonder if there is some resentment on your side so perhaps you do it strictly out of duty as opposed to out of generosity because you truly enjoy spending money on your loved ones.
And perhaps he hasn't acquired that sense of generosity where he'd actually enjoy spending money on others to treat them just to make them happy.

Keeping the change is not actually very good. He should have automatically handed it back and you should have automatically taken it. On the rare occasion you'd say 'keep it, it's ok'.

SarahBellam · 22/07/2021 08:36

But you literally offered to pay! You literally said, “I’ll pay”!

My DD does a similar activity to a similar standard and it probably costs about £4-£5k a year all in. If you can afford that you can afford a £9 lunch for him. Next time stop being such a martyr and tell him it’s his turn.

Whinge · 22/07/2021 08:37

@Bryonyshcmyony

No, it's impossible to know how she treats her kids. The only thing we know for sure is that she has a good enough relationship with her son to go out shopping together. That's more than most

Some people just live to find fault.

Why is it impossible? The OP herself has told us:

She spends more on her DD
DDs dancing means there has been no holidays for 5 years
She thinks her DS should pay as she's paid for 18 years
She cried because he didn't pay for a meal she offered to buy.

Bluntness100 · 22/07/2021 08:37

The op is clear she’s struggling financially and I think that’s why she’s counting up what she’s spent on him and watching what he spends on himself, so money is very important to her and uppermost in her mind, which is I suspect what’s driving this. Sometimes if your skint you don’t behave reasonably.

Myrrfect · 22/07/2021 08:38

He’s 18 and you said you’d buy lunch

My ds definitely wouldn’t have thought that this meant I wanted him to treat me at 18

But at 20 he will offer to get the occasional lunch and coffee if it’s suggested, and I don’t immediately offer to pay.

I’m very grateful but don’t expect it.

Uramaki · 22/07/2021 08:39

You said you'd pay so YABU there but he shouldn't have taken your change. Ask for it back.

Wheresthebeach · 22/07/2021 08:39

You offered! You can't then get upset when it doesn't occur to a teenager to rebuff the offer. He's only just started work.

Whatever you do don't raise it - you can't tell someone off for not buying you lunch when you offered to pay automatically, and you certainly can't imply that they should have read your mind, or that they were tight for not arguing with you about it. That would be massively unfair. The amount of money you spend on DD is also a factor you need to consider. Do you count that up in the same way as you do for your DS?

You're understandably shattered, worn out with other issues - don't turn this into something it isn't.

Horehound · 22/07/2021 08:40

I'm keen to know if the DD works and pays for ops lunch.

Branster · 22/07/2021 08:40

Also, it's not about the value £7.50 or £750. It's more the fact that, as yet, it doesn't come natural to him to be generous to you and, probably, to others.

I also want to add that you sound like a very caring and considerate mother.

The practical attitude to money maybe rubbed off on him a bit more than you'd have thought. In itself nit a bad thing as he'll probably be careful with his own money in the future.

RightYesButNo · 22/07/2021 08:40

@MiddleParking

I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault.

In what way could that possibly not be your fault?

Yes, have to admit, out of the whole OP, this was the part that struck me. Very strange justification.
ThorsLeftNut · 22/07/2021 08:43

You say ‘it’s not about the money’ but you’ve just listed lots of money related things to us. So it’s obviously a huge part of this for you.

If you wanted him to pay you should have said ‘you can pay, you’ve got a wage now!’ And made it light hearted.
YABU to say you’ll pay then complain.

borntobequiet · 22/07/2021 08:43

You said you’d pay and he listened.