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AIBU to think son could have spent £7.50 on me?

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Whyamivirtuallyinvisible · 22/07/2021 07:35

My son has just started work, admittedly it isn't the greatest wage, however he's been very lucky to get a job as an apprentice p,umber on 15K. He gets picked up every day so won't need fuel for his car at all during the working week. Incidentallly we bought the car, insured it for him for the first year and husband also gave him half towards his first big repair bill which cost us £200.

Times have been extremely tough financially the last few years, made worse by Covid, like many people. Our DD dances to a very high standard and it goes without saying that this costs an awful lot of money, but we manage somehow like no fancy expenditures and no holidays for the last five years. I've recently had an ankle op so I've also lost money from work.

About two months ago my son had desperately needed new clothes. Smart for interviews and some casual which had cost around £180/200 which we had paid for. He has had part time jobs but nothing since January due to Covid and then studying for A Levels

Last Saturday I'd gone into town with him, my first venture on crutches and he was going to buy himself a few things to wear with his first salary. He'd probably spent around £70 on himself before we decided to head for lunch and a rest as I was shattered. Without thinking I said I'd buy lunch. Force of habit really as not used to him working. However when we had almost arrived at the food place he remembered they only took cash. I waited outside for him as he needed to walk further up the road to withdraw cash. I gave him my card and PIN number and even as he walked away I honestly thought he'd come back and say he was treating me out of his first wage packet.

We ordered food and sat down and he told me he'd taken £20 out of my account. I think mine was £7.50 as I'd ordered small but his was more, possibly £9/10. He put the change on the table and then in his pocket as I had no bag or pockets. He kept the change but I am sure he'd just forgotten about it and I wasn't going to ask for £2 back.

Being honest I felt really hurt and ashamed to admit I shed a tear (pathetic I know) as it made me feel kind of crap. I've always felt guilty about DD's dancing as she has had more spent on her but that isn't my fault. I've tried to make it up to him in other ways and the year before I'd bought him an off-road bike £1000 and £500 worth of clothing, boots, helmet etc. It's not even the money, it's the gesture and I think it felt worse because I'd stood in the street on crutches whilst he'd gone to withdraw money from my own account. Even if he'd said 'Do you mind if we have a packet of sandwiches each, I'll treat you' that would have felt better.

AIBU to think this was a bit mean after 18 years of trying to always give him what we could afford or was it my fault for inadvertently saying I'd pay.

OP posts:
Confusedandshaken · 22/07/2021 08:17

I understand how you feel. My eldest child buys me lunch or a drink occasionally and it means so much. The younger one still acts like a child and expects the bank of mum and dad to cough up for everything. However the balance will probably change in the future and I look forward to that day.

That being said YABVU here. You offered to pay for his lunch. In hindsight you realise you needn't have done that, but the fact remains, you did. He isn't a mind reader, he wasn't to know that you regretted the offer. And you were an absolute sap not to say 'Oy you - that's my change you are pocketing!'

Feelingbad2 · 22/07/2021 08:17

I’m astounded at people saying it’s a low wage. For an 18 year old apprentice living at home that’s a great wage! It’s more than I earn as a full time TA!

SleepingStandingUp · 22/07/2021 08:18

These things are solved woth directness.

Mom, can you come shopping with me on Saturday?
Sure Bob, lunch is on you though

MaMaD1990 · 22/07/2021 08:18

At that age, if my mum said she'd buy lunch I wouldn't think twice about it to be honest, especially when she hands me her card to get cash out of the machine for it. Is the problem you feel he's not being thoughtful enough? Sometimes you need to be upfront about things like this otherwise why would he know? You say yourself its just an auto drive thing where you offer to buy lunch, so how is he to know this time you're expecting something different? I can see where you're coming from but he's not a mind reader so, I think YABU.

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 08:18

@Holly60

It was force of habit for you to offer and force of habit for him to accept. He is still young and won’t think of treating his mum. Give him time. You did overreact (in the kindest possible way)
This. I do know how you feel though.
Crimblecrumble1990 · 22/07/2021 08:19

You said you would buy lunch and then gave him your card to get money it. He took it at face value. I think anyone would but especially a teenage boy!! I'm 31 and my parents would still pay for lunch if we went out (unless I was treating them for a bday or something in which case I would state that i was to pay) Give him a couple more years, the parent/son dynamic has only just started to shift and it takes a while to adjust.

Bagelsandbrie · 22/07/2021 08:20

@Feelingbad2

I’m astounded at people saying it’s a low wage. For an 18 year old apprentice living at home that’s a great wage! It’s more than I earn as a full time TA!
I agree. Mumsnet is full of high earners who have no idea what a “normal” wage is to many people! My dh is 34 and earns £19.5k working full time. Wages vary so much across the country and due to the nature of businesses etc.
BonnesVacances · 22/07/2021 08:20

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

You’ve carefully listed all the money you’ve spent on him as if you’re keeping score. If you wrote a similar list for how much you’ve spent on your DD, what would that look like? And presumably the no fancy holidays because of her dancing meant no fancy holidays for your DS growing up either, so you can pay for a hobby that’s not his and he gets no benefit from?

If I’ve read the post right, your DS is 18 and has just left school and was out spending money from his first wage packet? I’m not surprised it didn’t occur to him to pay, tbh. They’re very used to mum and dad picking up the bills at that age - force of habit as you say yourself. And you said you would buy lunch as well and gave him your bank card to get cash out! - he probably didn’t think it through any further than that. I’d have probably made a light joke of it - next time, lunch is on you, mate, now you’re earning!

I think the fact that you’re recovering from your op is perhaps making you feel a bit vulnerable and low, but I don’t think your DS has done much wrong here.

This. I noticed how glibly OP glossed over how expensive DD's dancing is and how it has affected DS too.

CrouchEndTiger12 · 22/07/2021 08:20

@SleepingStandingUp

These things are solved woth directness.

Mom, can you come shopping with me on Saturday?
Sure Bob, lunch is on you though

Mum can you spent thousands more on my dancing. Sure. You don't have to give us anything back Hmm
Ilovesleeeeep · 22/07/2021 08:21

I don't think YABU OP, it's one of those situations where it would have been nice if he had even just offered.
My 13yr old regularly offers to buy me things with his pocket money, he'll offer to buy a takeaway (fair enough it's because he wants one but he's willing to pay for me to eat too 😂) there have been times he's offered to buy me drinks/snacks etc
He is young but I hope he continues to be as thoughtful when he gets older.

TheGumption · 22/07/2021 08:22

Please don't be surprised when he resents you and doesn't maintain contact as he gets older. You've created a an environment where your children are treated very differently.

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 08:23

@TheGumption

Please don't be surprised when he resents you and doesn't maintain contact as he gets older. You've created a an environment where your children are treated very differently.
Oh come on.

This is such a ridiculous nasty thing to say.

Just because posts are in AIBU doesn't mean people can be vicious dicks

Twoforthree · 22/07/2021 08:24

I wouldn’t be upset, but I would have asked for the £2 back. Not because I particularly want or need it, but because I wouldn’t want them doing that in the real world, with others. You offered lunch, not to sub him money.
I think kids just don’t think. It’s still business as usual in his mind. A low key chat about him growing up and what that means about responsibities/freedom is probably needed. About how to show appreciation. But don’t mention the meal.

Robostripes · 22/07/2021 08:24

I’m 34 and earn a very decent wage and still hardly ever treat my parents - I buy them nice gifts but if we go out for a meal they usually offer to pay and I let them! Frankly despite my decent wage they are still a lot better off than me with my huge mortgage and childcare fees to pay so I don’t feel too guilty about it. At 18 it wouldn’t have even occurred to me to offer like many others have said.

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 08:25

Also ignorant.

A mum posts about one issue thst makes her sad and that's it, her son will resent her for the rest of her life.

Maybe she treats her kids differently becuase they ARE different?

Bagelsandbrie · 22/07/2021 08:25

@TheGumption

Please don't be surprised when he resents you and doesn't maintain contact as he gets older. You've created a an environment where your children are treated very differently.
What?! Op has said she’s tried to make sure that Ds has the same spent on him as the dd or did you miss that?
ragged · 22/07/2021 08:25

you offered....
if I asked my lads to go Dutch they'd step up without a quibble but must admit my adult DD would protest about her low wages etc.

Seasidemumma77 · 22/07/2021 08:25

My mum and I always have had a rule which works for us, now do same with my teen/young adult children. The person who suggests lunch, chooses venue and pays. This means we all get to enjoy treating each other, but its always within our own budgets. My dp has far more disposal income than me, we have adopted the same rule now too.

Horehound · 22/07/2021 08:26

I'm 34 and my parents still pay for me and my brother.

I have obviously paid for them sometimes but at your son's age I think it wouldn't have occurred to me.

I wouldn't be getting upset about this. you built up a story in your head he was going to buy you lunch with his first pay and he wouldn't have been thinking like that at all.
You also say your dd gets more spent on her but it's not your fault. Well, it is actually and I can see that could build resentment between Ds and DD in the future or between Ds and you.
Be careful, he will notice it.

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 08:26

And fwiw, I gave dd 15 to buy some things from the shop. It came to 12. She didn't give me the change, so you bet I asked for the 3 back!

SupermanWithTheGreyHair · 22/07/2021 08:27

YABU. You said you would pay. Your son doesn’t owe you for the last 18 years, he didn’t ask to be born you chose to have him and bringing up children costs money.

Saying that, you can’t help how you feel, but I’d just try to get some perspective. He’s only 18, he’s done well to get himself an apprentice in the current climate and it seems he’s happy to spend time with his mum. I’d say you’re doing ok. 😊

Horehound · 22/07/2021 08:27

@Bagelsandbrie no, she has openly said DD gets more and it's not her fault Confused

Twoforthree · 22/07/2021 08:27

I remember the time when I had to clearly point out that my teenager should buy flowers for someone who’d given her a lift several times.

“But they were going there anyway” was the incredulous response.

Teenagers need things pointing out. Some may notice on their own but the CF threads on here show that many don’t.

Happymum12345 · 22/07/2021 08:28

Teenagers, boys, men etc don’t always think. It’s as simple as that. If your ds knew how you’re feeling, I expect he would be very upset.

Bryonyshcmyony · 22/07/2021 08:28

[quote Horehound]@Bagelsandbrie no, she has openly said DD gets more and it's not her fault Confused[/quote]
Yes one of my dds has an expensive hobby. As did my other dcs when they were small. It all evens out.

Clealry the OP is a good mum or her ds wouldn't want to go out for lunch with her in the first place!