… to ask why Giles Coren hasn’t been cancelled yet?

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The vile Dawn Foster tweets ffs. But he seems Teflon coated. He will never be cancelled. Three fucking columns a week … a pissing radio show, albeit on Times Radio, which surely no one listens to. I would love to be proved wrong. Absolutely love to be.

Who else thinks that this will be Giles Coren’s last series of Amazing Hotels? I do think he will keep his column in The Times though.

He might keep his column. I think he’s skating on thin ice though. A few more ill considered tweets and things might change.

I disagree @RedToothBrush. There is no social media mob here. There are women discussing Gile Coren. Some in favour of him, some who do not favour him.🤷‍♀️

I am growing increasingly alarmed at the numerous ways the self proclaimed proponents of Free Speech on this thread are trying to silence those who disagree with Giles Coren's abuse.

I just can’t see him being on any sort of mainstream media apart from The Times. Someone who has abused a dead woman cannot be on Amazing Hotels or Bake Off or Master Chef. GB News would be a perfect fit for him as it is the perfect platform for him to sneer at those less privileged than him and also to abuse people.

Who has that happened to?

Perhaps in the future actively attempting and encouraging others to cause harm by cancelling someone will become unlawful. It should be.

How did we get to a situation where offending someone is considered worse than making someone lose their job? It's madness

Two examples I can think of now are Karen Todd (Sunderland headteacher) and Ian Murray (Society of Editors). Circumstances were different and discussing them would mean opening another can of worms, but cancelling is real, and should be stopped now

I am growing increasingly alarmed at the numerous ways the self proclaimed proponents of Free Speech on this thread are trying to silence those who disagree with Giles Coren's abuse

😂 You sound ridiculous.

Perhaps in the future actively attempting and encouraging others to cause harm by cancelling someone will become unlawful.

I don't see how. Cancelling seems to mean anything from saying something negative (if factual) about them on social media, to refusing to consume their product (book, TV show etc,), to making a complaint about them to their employer eg The Times. Pretty sinister you think any of that should be illegal.

@Mustlovegin, No one mentioned on this thread has been stripped of their job and livelihood because of this convo.

Perhaps in the future actively attempting and encouraging others to cause harm by cancelling someonewillbecome unlawful. It should be.

Perhaps it will be. Then those who deliberately and falsely accuse others of paedophilia and who spread antisemitism and xenophobia because their ego got hurt, will face justice.

I live in hope.❤❤❤

Isn't being stripped of your job and livelihood serious enough harm?

Better cancel all future elections and party political broadcasts then. Someone might lose their job because people don't like them! Cancel culture and mob rule in action! Shouldn't be allowed. Leave such decisions to the elite.

That anyone can think GC should be allowed accuse someone on Twitter of being a paedophile, based on absolutely nothing, and should have that right enshrined in law in the name of anti-cancel culture is bonkers. The people with more media heft should be allowed do as they please but it should be illegal for the plebs to rebuke him. Give me strength.

Consequences. As so many have said, he’s free to say all these things but not necessarily free of consequences.

In all likelihood nothing at all will happen, but if he gets fired for this from any of his various income streams, it’s a consequence of saying something that many people find morally objectionable. People who spend their time making statements they know people will find offensive do have to occasionally live with what can result.

I personally would be dismayed to see him presenting any new family progs on the BBC after this.

Having said that. DD was watching a quiz the other day and the presenter was... Can't remember the name.

The one who had an advice column in some blokey mag. Someone said my GF has dumped me etc what should I do.

He said cut her face so no one else wants her.

People can say what they like. When it comes to employment plenty of people have been sacked because of saying stuff on SM that 'does not align with company values'. And not because the all powerful MN demanded it!

With family entertainment, esp BBC which we pay for. I think my perspective that I don't want to have him paid from the public purse to do fun family entertainment is fair enough.

Not that newspapers or TV companies listen to me! Obv

I also find it completely hilarious that Giles Coren can dish it out but that if anyone mentions his father/nepotism he starts swearing and threatening to beat them to a pulp/abuses a dead woman, before swiftly issuing a super-injunction to any newspapers reporting on this.

Gordon Ramsay really had the mark of Giles Coren when he called him a “pompous prick” in this article: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/gordon-ramsay-restaurant-interview/amp

As did Anthony Bourdain (RIP) who called Giles a “c**t”: mobile.twitter.com/Bourdain/status/60329890431508480

When it comes to employment plenty of people have been sacked because of saying stuff on SM that 'does not align with company values'

Yes, but that's different.

If it's a company decision and there's no collective organised campaign causing the dismissal

You sound ridiculous.

Possibly @Bryonyshcmyony, it's Saturday night and I've had a couple.

I personally would be dismayed to see him presenting any new family progs on the BBC after this

He was quite restrained on Amazing Hotels TBH. I haven't watched any of his other shows so can't comment

As did this Canadian journalist, who quickly seemed to identify that he is a massive knob too. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/life/food-and-wine/food-trends/restaurant-critic-giles-coren-sacrifices-dignity-to-entertain/article20862150/

@TooBigForMyBoots

You sound ridiculous.

Possibly @Bryonyshcmyony, it's Saturday night and I've had a couple.

it's Saturday night and I've had a couple

Just reading a bit more. Interesting.

Seems some feel that.
Saying stuff on SM that I would think most people would agree was appalling. Not offensive. Cruel, unnecessary, disgraceful. Laughing gleefully at the death of a young woman.

Should be free of consequences like your employer's letting you go because they they think it reflects badly on them.

And if employers do that, it's not their decision somehow but MOB RULE and.... Possibly happened because MN is so powerful and everyone takes chatboard posts mainly by women massively seriously.

No no he can say what he wishes and should face no consequences!

OTOH posters on MN must STFU and not say what they want in reaction to his appalling tweet.
Because that's somehow totally different and not free speech but mob rule and outrageous and STOP IT because...

Um..

Just because.

Raquel don't you think you've stirred up enough muck?

@mustlovegin

I personally would be dismayed to see him presenting any new family progs on the BBC after this

He was quite restrained on Amazing Hotels TBH. I haven't watched any of his other shows so can't comment

He was good in the things with Sue Perkins. Well she was excellent and as duo they were very watchable.

In the end I don't want public money to pay a man who laughs at s woman dying, and thinks to share this on twitter, presenting family entertainment.

[quote RaquelOak]I also find it completely hilarious that Giles Coren can dish it out but that if anyone mentions his father/nepotism he starts swearing and threatening to beat them to a pulp/abuses a dead woman, before swiftly issuing a super-injunction to any newspapers reporting on this.

Gordon Ramsay really had the mark of Giles Coren when he called him a “pompous prick” in this article: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/gordon-ramsay-restaurant-interview/amp

As did Anthony Bourdain (RIP) who called Giles a “c**t”: mobile.twitter.com/Bourdain/status/60329890431508480[/quote]
He's had a super-injunction issued over the Dawn Foster situation??

Cowardly weasel.

super-injunctions are used to silence. shocking example of cancel culture.