… to ask why Giles Coren hasn’t been cancelled yet?

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The vile Dawn Foster tweets ffs. But he seems Teflon coated. He will never be cancelled. Three fucking columns a week … a pissing radio show, albeit on Times Radio, which surely no one listens to. I would love to be proved wrong. Absolutely love to be.

In the end I don't want public money to pay a man who laughs at s woman dying, and thinks to share this on twitter, presenting family entertainment.

Similarly, I dont want my personal, limited, money to support him @NiceGerbil. I am under no illusion that the Times be swayed by my boycotting them to the princely sum off £500 per calendar annum.

I don't think many posters here know the correct meaning of cancel culture

@Bryonyshcmyony

I don't think many posters here know the correct meaning of cancel culture

You've proven that throughout this thread. For you it means someone you don't like taking someone you do like to task.

I very much doubt the super injunction thing.

I mean everyone knows and there screenshots etc.

They're used to stop info being published before everyone knows!

They don't sit right with me. No one outside the case is to know it's in place, who brought it etc.

We're supposed to get have transparency of our courts etc.

I don't think many posters here know the correct meaning of cancel culture

@Bryonyshcmyony, how do you reconcile your higher standards for posters on this thread with your minimization of Giles Coren's abusive shite? Eg.
It is perfectly possible to think what he wrote was distasteful and probably influenced by alcohol

He deliberately and falsely accused another man of paedophilia. Then did a follow up in the Times, justifying his accusations with the excuse I couldn't not because... ...whatever.🙄 I assume he was sober at some point. This week he tweeted lies and abuse about an actual journalist. Dawn Foster. Who died all too young.

Fortunately he deleted it.
And then posted a second draft!!!🤯
The guy pretends to be an antisemitic caricature of a polish person to send himself antisemitic abuse.🤮
He has a powerful platform.

What is it that makes him worth your time, your defense and you sounding ridiculous @Bryonyshcmyony?

@Classica

That anyone can think GC should be allowed accuse someone on Twitter of being a paedophile, based on absolutely nothing, and should have that right enshrined in law in the name of anti-cancel culture is bonkers. The people with more media heft should be allowed do as they please but it should be illegal for the plebs to rebuke him. Give me strength.

Libel laws still exist. Hth.

Is it Soho House?

Libel laws still exist. Hth.

Tell Giles

HTH

IIRC GC said that Alan Coren had told him that Michael White was a paedophile, so MW couldn't sue him because he was only saying what his dad told him. And as his dad was dead, MW couldn't sue him either.

I'm sure GC thought he was being very clever and totes hilaire.🙄 The reality was that once again he was hiding behind his father.

Michael White told him to go to bed. Everyone who stayed witnessed Giles Coren's hissy fit where he threatened to go round and stab MW.

Giles said something like 'my dad said you were a kiddie fiddler' and Michael White replied with 'no he didn't but it's interesting you think so little of your father that you'd defame him like this'.

Which makes sense to me as GC is a classic example of someone who on the one hand craves parental approval but simultaneously is happy to chuck their reputation to the wolves because they never approved of him enough.

I can completely believe that he grew up in a household where there was immense pressure to be witty and entertaining and that took its toll on him. But you're a middle aged man now, your parents are dead, so admit your psychological soft spots and get over it.

@mustlovegin

Really? Don’t you think that we, as women, need to get angry about things and challenge them? To stand up for those disenfranchised by poverty who can’t speak for themselves (like Dawn Porter who is dead!)? So you’re suggesting I should sit down, shut my mouth and stop stirring up muck, as you put it.

Because obviously Giles is the real victim here, and poor him for having to suffer anyone bringing up his past bad behaviour or negative things other people have said about him.

@Bryonyshcmyony

I am growing increasingly alarmed at the numerous ways the self proclaimed proponents of Free Speech on this thread are trying to silence those who disagree with Giles Coren's abuse

😂 You sound ridiculous.

Think the pot kettle picture should've been used for this.

I've just taken a look at some of Giles Coren's tweets. He really is a complete knob. Such a shame as I thought Alan Coren was erudite and witty. Giles clearly is not.

I am growing increasingly alarmed at the numerous ways the self proclaimed proponents of Free Speech on this thread are trying to silence those who disagree with Giles Coren's abuse

I’m amused rather than alarmed. They’re so blissfully unaware of the irony.

I can completely believe that he grew up in a household where there was immense pressure to be witty and entertaining and that took its toll on him.

Yep, seems there was huge pressure to be witty and funny, at the expense of imparting any actual values or common decency, or teaching him manners. In this case, heaps of money, secondary and tertiary education at two of the most exclusive establishments in the world, doesn’t buy you class.

That article by the Toronto journalist actually makes him look really pathetic.

If our son grew up to be like him, I would definitely wonder where we’d gone wrong.

@FadoFado

I can completely believe that he grew up in a household where there was immense pressure to be witty and entertaining and that took its toll on him. But you're a middle aged man now, your parents are dead, so admit your psychological soft spots and get over it.

Shame if that's the case. His dad and sister exude wit and intelligence. Perhaps he always felt the poor relation. His sister definitely doesn't seem to have the terrible morals and nastiness that he has.

What an odd twisted man he's become. Oodles of privilege but never enough of anything. Reminds me of Toby Young, similar circumstances and apparently similar characters. And Giles, wishing he'd been working class so he could be lauded for clambering to the apparent heights he's achieved? No, Giles, there isnt a chance that you would have scaled that mountain without connections. Regardless of your benefiting us all with your generous pearls of wisdom, in the absence of dad's influence you'd be the bitter old bugger in the club on the corner, yup, the one everyone avoids.

That Canadian article confirmed my suspicions that he had some kind of pretty fucked up childhood. I can quite see how Alan Coren could have been tough to live up to. Unfortunately the career Giles has chosen is probably just about the worst for feeding an inferiority complex. Insightful comparison to Toby Young. These are men who have never emerged from their father’s shadows. It’s very sad. They could both do with a shedload of therapy and a long spell away from the limelight.

Agreed. When you have a parent who is very successful in his or her field it's rarely a good idea for a child to take them on as competition. Kudos to Duncan Jones, son of Bowie.

Giles Coren really is the absolute worst. This is just heartbreaking. 💔

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“After discovering that reaping is not remotely as fun as sowing, Giles Coren has instructed his lawyers. They’ve been contacting newspapers’ legal departments — a reliable source sent me an example of one of the notes — to say that the focus on him since his grim subtweets about the early death of Dawn Foster is causing distress for his family.

While there is no excuse for causing upset to young children and doorstepping people at their family home is rarely justified, Giles Coren works for The Times a paper which, along with its tabloid sibling The Sun, makes no bones about using those exact same tactics against people it deems worthy of that attention.

It’s also richer than the richest gravy for Coren to complain about familial distress after he gloated about a woman’s death just days after it happened. Coren’s glee caused distress to Dawn Foster’s mother but she neither has access to an expensive law firm nor the ability to have her say in one of several national newspaper columns.”

“ And let’s remember what Coren wrote that caused such distress to Dawn’s family and her many grieving friends. He first tweeted at 13:15 on 20 July 2021 a message that read…

When someone dies who has trolled you on Twitter, saying vile and hurtful things about you and your family, is it okay to be like, “I’m sorry for the people who loved you, and any human death diminishes me, but can you fuck off on to hell now where you belong”?

… before deleting that after some time and replacing it with what it seems he considered a ‘milder’ version at 14:16 on the same day:

When someone dies who has trolled you on Twitter, saying vile and hurtful things about you and your family, is it okay to be like, “I’m sorry for the people who loved you, and any human death diminishes me, but,
HA HA HA HA HA HA”?

Perhaps Michael White’s family suffered distress when Coren baselessly accused him of being a paedophile and threatened to stab him. There’s a good chance that the parents of the child that Coren fantasised about killing, burning and fucking found that distressing. The catalogue of horrific things Coren has said and done — which I laid out in a previous newsletter — offers plenty of other families who have been distressed by his actions.

No doubt Coren’s children — whose distress his lawyers have particularly invoked — will experience a modicum of distress in the future when they read some of the things their father has written about them.

Will his daughter be delighted by the now notorious Times feature in which her father wrote about holidaying with her aged three as being “the most insanely romantic holiday, in some ways even the sexiest holiday” that he’d ever had?

Will his son chuckle like papa or be utterly devastated to read the Esquire article in which his dad called him — then aged four — as “a fat little bastard” and a “chubby fucker” before saying he had “an arse on him like Vanessa Feltz and a full-frontal presentation at bath time that puts one in mind of a Gavin and Stacey-era James Corden”?”

RaquelOak Wow! You're really...committed to this 😳 All the quotes at your fingertips!